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Re: Transformers MP-51 Arcee Discussion

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Thu May 14, 2020 1:50 pm

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AllNewSuperRobot wrote:While a new - gimmick-free - MP Rodimus Prime would be the ideal, I wonder who would be most likely as the next of the MP Movie characters? Kup? Springer? Blurr? ...Wheelie?
Galvatron is still waiting for his turn.



Indeed. The only G1 Masterpiece I actually want. But realistically, Takara's bias towards Autobots pushes him down the list. As previously noted, MP-36 was the last New Decepticon in this line. 2-3 years ago and it doesn't look like HasTak are in any rush for the next one. :(
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Re: Transformers MP-51 Arcee Discussion

Postby -Kanrabat- » Thu May 14, 2020 1:52 pm

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AllNewSuperRobot wrote:While a new - gimmick-free - MP Rodimus Prime would be the ideal, I wonder who would be most likely as the next of the MP Movie characters? Kup? Springer? Blurr? ...Wheelie?
Galvatron is still waiting for his turn.


Yes, I'd rather have any of the other 1986 main movie cast other than another Hot Rod. They had 2 shots at him ... time for someone else!


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Re: Transformers MP-51 Arcee Discussion

Postby Fires_Of_Inferno » Thu May 14, 2020 2:30 pm

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I'm not gonna be buying it, but I'm still gonna complain/opinionate about it.

Some of these pictures make her look really good. I mean it's obvious her entire alt-mode is on her back, she's gonna be a shellformer for sure. The robot mode looks fine, but the sight of her butt and thighs hanging out the rear bottom of her car mode makes me think that she transforms pretty much like Generations Arcee, except with more backpack origami. However: those additional faces almost all look the same. They couldn't include one with the red visor?
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Re: Transformers MP-51 Arcee Discussion

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Thu May 14, 2020 2:31 pm

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Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:Those additional faces almost all look the same. They couldn't include one with the red visor?

I thought the same, why do these all look identical?
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Re: Transformers MP-51 Arcee Discussion

Postby ZeroWolf » Thu May 14, 2020 2:34 pm

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The red visor comes down from the top of the head so it'll cover the eyes on whatever face plate you're using...not that I see much difference.
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Re: Transformers MP-51 Arcee Discussion

Postby Seibertron » Thu May 14, 2020 2:54 pm

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D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:Those additional faces almost all look the same. They couldn't include one with the red visor?

I thought the same, why do these all look identical?


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Re: Transformers MP-51 Arcee Discussion

Postby Cyberpath » Thu May 14, 2020 2:59 pm

I think both Hot Rod and Arcee look pretty good overall. But I don't know, I think it's enough MP for me, at least for now.
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Re: Transformers MP-51 Arcee Discussion

Postby Lando Tucker » Thu May 14, 2020 5:07 pm

Is she perfect? Absolutely not. Am I psyched about this figure? Yes, very, very much. And infinitely more positive about this than, say, another iteration of G1 Optimus Prime or more versions of Starscream/Skywarp/Acid Storm etc.

It's not the best-of-all-possible worlds Arcee, but it's proportionately priced and a hell of a long way from being a crime against nature and the vehicle mode is actually better than ANY third party version. And the transformation looks (but probably isn't) elegantly simple. And kibble-free. No-one at all thinking that's a good thing?

And this will be tweaked endlessly, and sooner or later, the chest section and the face will be sorted. There will be a Paradron Medic TT Mall Exclusive repaint within six months and probably a Head or Targetmaster version within 12.

So, I say: Yay. But cautiously.
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Re: Transformers MP-51 Arcee Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Thu May 14, 2020 5:37 pm

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Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:However: those additional faces almost all look the same. They couldn't include one with the red visor?
The visor is in her helmet.
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Re: Transformers MP-51 Arcee Discussion

Postby blackeyedprime » Fri May 15, 2020 3:07 am

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Maybe an upgrade set can sort the chest out but at her price she should be perfect from the get go, maybe even a bit more complex and maybe give the option of some front headlights from rotating panels or something to make her on a similar level to sunstreaker.
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Re: Transformers MP-51 Arcee Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Fri May 15, 2020 7:47 am

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blackeyedprime wrote:Maybe an upgrade set can sort the chest out but at her price she should be perfect from the get go, maybe even a bit more complex and maybe give the option of some front headlights from rotating panels or something to make her on a similar level to sunstreaker.
It's not just the front of her chest but the sides of her entire torso too that need to be higher.
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Re: Transformers MP-51 Arcee Discussion

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Fri May 15, 2020 1:04 pm

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AllNewSuperRobot wrote: :???: I'm puzzled. I thought I already noted the pre-order for Arcee? Although I maybe confusing it with the WFC figure.

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Re: Transformers MP-51 Arcee Discussion

Postby sol magnus » Fri May 15, 2020 2:26 pm

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The chest is a little low, but it's not egregious.

I'm on the fence. I'm getting only SELECT Masterpiece figures from here on out, not allowing scope creep to take over as it did my first time out and the movie characters are definitely an easy subset of guys to collect. However, Arcee is very expensive and I would like to see another G1 Decepticon get made - Galvatron is overdue. Cyclonus and Scourge should be a lay down for these guys what with the 3P options that have nailed them in the past. Not to be bringing up 3P, but I'm just saying there's precedent for those characters Takara could certainly use in it's own R and D.

Where some attribute a conspiracy to mske only Autobots, I see a delay due to commercial pressures. Beast Wars Masterpiece figures have evidently gone over well, and so the G1 stuff is getting spread out much further.

Anyway, she'll be out closer to Christmas, so I'm going to play the wait and see game, but I actually like the figure.
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Re: Transformers MP-51 Arcee Discussion

Postby ZeroWolf » Fri May 15, 2020 2:34 pm

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I wouldn't argue conspiracy when it's a well known fact that good guys go down better in Japan, a look at all the other lines in Japan bare this out (not talking transformers just other toy lines in general). Also if you reduced the collar section of the toy the chest would look better. I think that's the culprit here as none of the model sheets show a collar to that size. It's very strange that it would happen when Takara are normally sticklers to detail.
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Re: Transformers MP-51 Arcee Discussion

Postby -Kanrabat- » Fri May 15, 2020 3:42 pm

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To be perfectly hones, despite ragging about her chest and backpack, that MP Arcee is kinda growing on me.
I won't preorder though. I'll wait for the video reviews and in-hands impressions to make sure she's not a ticking time bomb with potential exploding parts.
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Re: Transformers MP-51 Arcee Discussion

Postby toycave_studios » Fri May 15, 2020 5:26 pm

Vehicle mode looks great. 3 faces that... LOOK THE SAME? lmao wtf? No thanks saggy granny boobs Arcee... 3rd Party beat you this time. Should take more time on your official releases Hasbro.. especially if they come out AFTER superior 3rd party attempts hahah. WEAK.
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Re: Transformers MP-51 Arcee Discussion

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Re: Transformers MP-51 Arcee Discussion

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Sat May 16, 2020 12:27 pm

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Also reminds me of the UT range of expressions...
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Re: Transformers MP-51 Arcee Discussion

Postby ZeroWolf » Sat May 16, 2020 2:09 pm

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Or the universe 2.0 box art expressions ;) Also, it may be very slow of me but I've just realised what the actual changes are with the Arcee faces. A bigger mouth and a slight change in eye shape.
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Re: Transformers MP-51 Arcee Discussion

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Sat May 16, 2020 2:16 pm

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Well I've already pre-ordered her for a friend. Technically a Christmas present, but I am dubious about how vague the release date is. Weird that she doesn't come with Daniel but I suppose that will always leave room for a minor Headmaster retool possibility for the mold. After they have milked the mold several times over, for the other G1 Fembots, of course.
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Re: Transformers MP-51 Arcee Discussion

Postby Rodimus Prime » Sun May 17, 2020 12:19 am

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Re: Transformers MP-51 Arcee Discussion

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Sun May 17, 2020 1:47 am

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Rodimus Prime wrote:At the risk of being crass, I can't help but think that the face on the right looks like it's from an x-rated blowup doll.


In light of Blackarachnia and the "mouse pads" highlighted in another thread, that look is par for the course really. As far as modern Fembot design is concern.
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Re: Transformers MP-51 Arcee Discussion

Postby -Kanrabat- » Sun May 17, 2020 4:19 am

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Rodimus Prime wrote:At the risk of being crass, I can't help but think that the face on the right looks like it's from an x-rated blowup doll.



Nah, not at all. That honor go for Fantoy's Rouge....... especially with THOSE optional parts.
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Re: Transformers MP-51 Arcee Discussion

Postby ZeroWolf » Sun May 17, 2020 5:12 am

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Rodimus Prime wrote:At the risk of being crass, I can't help but think that the face on the right looks like it's from an x-rated blowup doll.



Nah, not at all. That honor go for Fantoy's Rouge....... especially with THOSE optional parts.

Not THOSE parts! I remember coming across them in a completely unrelated article :SICK: Don't see how people can complain about a harmless mlp / tf crossover when things like that exist.
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Re: Transformers MP-51 Arcee Discussion

Postby -Kanrabat- » Sun May 17, 2020 5:23 am

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ZeroWolf wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:At the risk of being crass, I can't help but think that the face on the right looks like it's from an x-rated blowup doll.



Nah, not at all. That honor go for Fantoy's Rouge....... especially with THOSE optional parts.

Not THOSE parts! I remember coming across them in a completely unrelated article :SICK: Don't see how people can complain about a harmless mlp / tf crossover when things like that exist.


Honestly, I laughed my ass off when I first saw those at first. Then I thought about how it's kinda actually cool to see a robot who want to be human so it's changing it's parts one by one with organic parts. Then the bot become a cyborg. And finally it achieve it's dream to become a 100% flesh human being who finally have mortality.

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Did I just turn something disturbing into something wholesome?
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