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News Credits: 65 · by **Wolfman Jake** » Tue Sep 04, 2018 11:55 am

o.supreme wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Ah, so you admit that the figure does have to be changed from how it currently is in order for it to fit the Siege aesthetic, meaning that it doesn't presently conform to the Siege aesthetic.

Umm...sure, whatever, as long as ya'll also agree P/CP doesn't conform to the PotP aesthetic, (NOT a LIMB) we can agree to disagree. In any case comparing P/CP to say Siege Sideswipe (which doesn't appear to have battle damage or a Cybertronian mode), I retract my last statement.

If we're talking "aesthetics," we're talking "looks." Aesthetically, Punch/Counterpunch fits in just fine with the rest of Power of the Primes. You're talking about "gimmicks," in which case, yes, P/CP can't be a combiner limb, but he CAN accommodate Prime Armor and interact with Prime Masters in exactly the same way as any other Deluxe in the line can. In fact, he pulls that part off a LOT better than Wreck-Gar.

As for Sideswipe in War for Cybertron: SIEGE, he does have battle damage. It's most noticeable on the black parts of his shins. His alt mode is not a real car either, but a more "Cybertronian"/futuristic stylization, like most other figures revealed so far in the line, not the least of which is Optimus Prime. So, no, Siege Sideswipe is a terrible "whataboutism" to cite if you want to make a point about Punch/Counterpunch in the Power of the Primes line.

News Credits: 372 · by **Cyberpath** » Tue Sep 04, 2018 12:34 pm

More pix from Clement Soh Photography --

Punch with Autobot Clones --

Counterpunch with Decepticon Clones --

Punch (front & back) --

Counterpunch (front & back) --

More pix here.

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Tue Sep 04, 2018 2:07 pm

Following on from the first batch of in hand photos of this long-awaited figure, and to a tip off from fellow Seibertron user, Cyberpath, we now have more photographs from Clement Soh (via his Facebook page).

Included in this batch, are shots showing the prime armour as jet pack for both Punch and Counterpunch, a look at the back of the figure in each mode. There is also two group shots of Punch with the Autobot Clones and Counterpunch with the Decepticon Clones.

These figure is due to be shipped this month, for those who have ordered it from Amazon, being the third exclusive following Shuttle mold Blast Off (representing Combiner Wars) and Repungus with Titan Master Dastard (representing Titans Return). Punch/Counterpunch represents Power of the Primes. All three come with limited edition Prime Masters but Punch/Counterpunch is the only one of the three to come with Prime Armour.

Are you one of the many fans looking forward to this release? Let us know what you think in the comments and stay tuned to Seibertron.com for all the latest news and reviews.

News Credits: 8 · by **Flashwave** » Tue Sep 04, 2018 2:57 pm

Its a Jetpack? Awesome.I am totally removi g the thumbs though,

by **Skritz** » Tue Sep 04, 2018 3:12 pm

A jetpack with a built-in power slot for the soul of a god. Eat your heart out, James Bond, that is some absurd gadgetry for a spy. :lol:

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Tue Sep 04, 2018 3:19 pm

Skritz wrote:A jetpack with a built-in power slot for the soul of a god. Eat your heart out, James Bond, that is some absurd gadgetry for a spy.

The question is, which prime works best with a jet pack...I'm thinking Vector Prime, as the jet pack becomes a time machine.

News Credits: 48 · by **Nemesis Primal** » Tue Sep 04, 2018 3:32 pm

ZeroWolf wrote:
Skritz wrote:A jetpack with a built-in power slot for the soul of a god. Eat your heart out, James Bond, that is some absurd gadgetry for a spy.

The question is, which prime works best with a jet pack...I'm thinking Vector Prime, as the jet pack becomes a time machine.

I'd say Solus Prime, for a self-repairing/self-upgrading piece of equipment.

News Credits: 3 · by **Randomhero** » Tue Sep 04, 2018 4:03 pm

Nemesis Primal wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:
Skritz wrote:A jetpack with a built-in power slot for the soul of a god. Eat your heart out, James Bond, that is some absurd gadgetry for a spy.

The question is, which prime works best with a jet pack...I'm thinking Vector Prime, as the jet pack becomes a time machine.

I'd say Solus Prime, for a self-repairing/self-upgrading piece of equipment.

Hello? Liege Maximo. The prime of lies and deception

News Credits: 65 · by **Wolfman Jake** » Tue Sep 04, 2018 4:09 pm

Randomhero wrote:
Nemesis Primal wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:
Skritz wrote:A jetpack with a built-in power slot for the soul of a god. Eat your heart out, James Bond, that is some absurd gadgetry for a spy.

The question is, which prime works best with a jet pack...I'm thinking Vector Prime, as the jet pack becomes a time machine.

I'd say Solus Prime, for a self-repairing/self-upgrading piece of equipment.

Hello? Liege Maximo. The prime of lies and deception

Onyx Prime, so the poor guy doesn't have to fly in the cargo section of the plane in a crate any more.

News Credits: 1 · by **datguy86** » Tue Sep 04, 2018 4:17 pm

The more I look at Punch/Counterpunch the more I think a potential repaint/retool would be Siege Drift/Deadlock.

Also, wouldn't the best fit be alchemist prime for a constant fuel supply for the jet pack?

News Credits: 2 · by **Nemesis Destron** » Tue Sep 04, 2018 4:51 pm

It's pure bad-ass the more images we see...start shipping already...'nuff said! :BANG_HEAD:

News Credits: 1 · by **Lunarabbit** » Tue Sep 04, 2018 6:55 pm

Flashwave wrote:Its a Jetpack? Awesome.I am totally removi g the thumbs though,

...or shove a couple of weapons into them and beef it up a bit... or—OR—make a couple of wings to plug in there... and suddenly I'm excited about an accessory that I'd previously written off as being a complete and total waste.

News Credits: 379 · by **Bounti76** » Tue Sep 04, 2018 8:16 pm

Does anyone else but me see an easy remold of this figure into Pointblank, for the Siege line?

News Credits: 8 · by **Flashwave** » Tue Sep 04, 2018 8:20 pm

Lunarabbit wrote:
Flashwave wrote:Its a Jetpack? Awesome.I am totally removi g the thumbs though,

...or shove a couple of weapons into them and beef it up a bit... or—OR—make a couple of wings to plug in there... and suddenly I'm excited about an accessory that I'd previously written off as being a complete and total waste.

wings... now there's a thought. Gonna raid my accesory pile now. hmm.

News Credits: 317 · by **chuckdawg1999** » Tue Sep 04, 2018 9:09 pm

I really think P/CP will either be a fanatic figure, or the worst toy ever made; no middle ground.

by **Skritz** » Tue Sep 04, 2018 9:14 pm

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I really think P/CP will either be a fanatic figure, or the worst toy ever made; no middle ground.

From the pics I see no reason to think he will be horrible. Certainly not visually, at least. He's a top notch, perfectly on the nose update to the G1 figure.

News Credits: 438 · by **Sabrblade** » Tue Sep 04, 2018 9:40 pm

The correct answer as to who should go into the jetpack is Nightbeat's head screaming for dear life's sake.

News Credits: 8 · by **Flashwave** » Tue Sep 04, 2018 10:51 pm

Sabrblade wrote:The correct answer as to who should go into the jetpack is Nightbeat's head screaming for dear life's sake.

I dun geddit? Is thT from an episode?

News Credits: 60 · by **fenrir72** » Tue Sep 04, 2018 11:49 pm

A great amalgamation of the JP/SB show plus modern engineering.

Sept 15 can't come fast enough!

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Wed Sep 05, 2018 12:29 am

Flashwave wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:The correct answer as to who should go into the jetpack is Nightbeat's head screaming for dear life's sake.

I dun geddit? Is thT from an episode?

Come on, have you seen TR Nightbeat's face sculpt?

Transformers Titans Return Nightbeat Gallery

(in case anyone wonders, that face is more than likely designed for Siren, who had his toy head design switched with Nightbeat's for the Marvel comics)

Seriously tho, Punch and Nightbeat do share a faint connection, via this Kre-O Microchanger:

Modeled after Punch, but named "Nightbeat" for the usual reason.

News Credits: 22 · by **Rodimus Prime** » Wed Sep 05, 2018 12:54 am

Bounti76 wrote:Does anyone else but me see an easy remold of this figure into Pointblank, for the Siege line?

Pointblank would work, but my first thought for a reuse was Tracks, the color and shape of the car mode is nearly identical, they would just have to paint the Punch side blue and give him a new head.

News Credits: 372 · by **Cyberpath** » Wed Sep 05, 2018 1:12 am

I'd rather the plastic and moving-parts of the little figure and jetpack had been allocated to giving him feet instead. But he looks good regardless. The double-agent gimmick is cool.

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Wed Sep 05, 2018 5:09 am

Courtesy of fellow Seibertron user, Cyberpath and Loopaza Mega Store's Facebook page, we now have a release date for Takara Tomy's Prime Wars punch/Counterpunch! He is being released as part of their Power of the Primes line and is due to come out in February. Thus is a great opportunity for those who missed out on getting him from Amazon, which he is exclusive to in the US and a few other areas.

Will this be your chance to grab this anticipated figure? Let us know in the comments and stay tuned to Seibertron for all the latest news and reviews.

News Credits: 10 · by **Agamemnon** » Wed Sep 05, 2018 6:34 am

Okay, I posted about Novastar being available from BBTS, but you have to buy the assortment? Surprise, Amazon had Novastar for MSRP!! As of 7:30 AM CDT:

Novastar $16.99 In stock and available from Amazon, Prime Eligible

Yeah, WJ88, I now feel okay cancelling my BBTS preorder...

News Credits: 4504 · by **william-james88** » Wed Sep 05, 2018 7:38 am

Agamemnon wrote:Okay, I posted about Novastar being available from BBTS, but you have to buy the assortment? Surprise, Amazon had Novastar for MSRP!! As of 7:30 AM CDT:

Novastar $16.99 In stock and available from Amazon, Prime Eligible

Yeah, WJ88, I now feel okay cancelling my BBTS preorder...

I am glad it all works well. I am curious to know the case contents, like if she is 2 or 3 per case.

Anyways, the debate for where Punch Conterpunch is settled and i am glad thats over. Takara is releasing him later this year, under the Potp banner, even though its being released at a similar time as the seige line. He is PP 44