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News Credits: 79 · by **Sigma Magnus** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 3:20 pm

Kurona wrote:
steals_your_goats wrote:
Kurona wrote:
Cobotron wrote:
Kurona wrote:I just realised that with this Leader, we have an Optimus in the original G1 design in every size class but Voyager.

Legion - 2010
Legends - T30
Deluxe - Classics 2-pack
Leader - PotP

Can't wait until we get it in Titan class
Classics doesn't count? Too neo for you?

It's got a fairly heavy amount of stylisation and casts a very different silhouette to the original design; and in general carries itself with what feels like an edgier, angrier feel.

Not that that's a bad thing; quite the opposite - I love the Classics Voyager and will sing its praises to the ends of the Earth! I just find it funny that the original design is represented in every size class other than the one a lot of people would agree is the size class that's 'right' for Optimus

What about combiner wars?

A bit too beefy and bulky to really feel like a representation of the G1 design to me. Just my opinion tho

Isn't the T30 Legends an IDW design? (Still, your point stands :lol:

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News Credits: 191 · by **Kurona** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 3:21 pm

Sigma Magnus wrote:
Kurona wrote:
steals_your_goats wrote:
Kurona wrote:
Cobotron wrote:
Kurona wrote:I just realised that with this Leader, we have an Optimus in the original G1 design in every size class but Voyager.

Legion - 2010
Legends - T30
Deluxe - Classics 2-pack
Leader - PotP

Can't wait until we get it in Titan class
Classics doesn't count? Too neo for you?

It's got a fairly heavy amount of stylisation and casts a very different silhouette to the original design; and in general carries itself with what feels like an edgier, angrier feel.

Not that that's a bad thing; quite the opposite - I love the Classics Voyager and will sing its praises to the ends of the Earth! I just find it funny that the original design is represented in every size class other than the one a lot of people would agree is the size class that's 'right' for Optimus

What about combiner wars?

A bit too beefy and bulky to really feel like a representation of the G1 design to me. Just my opinion tho

Isn't the T30 Legends an IDW design? (Still, your point stands )

Very true - though since that design is based on and has very few differences to the original (the only real difference noticeable on the toy would be the shoulder pads), I still count it. Maybe I'm just weird 8-}

News Credits: 13 · by **steals_your_goats** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 3:24 pm

Kurona wrote:
Sigma Magnus wrote:
Kurona wrote:
steals_your_goats wrote:
Kurona wrote:
Cobotron wrote:
Kurona wrote:I just realised that with this Leader, we have an Optimus in the original G1 design in every size class but Voyager.

Legion - 2010
Legends - T30
Deluxe - Classics 2-pack
Leader - PotP

Can't wait until we get it in Titan class
Classics doesn't count? Too neo for you?

It's got a fairly heavy amount of stylisation and casts a very different silhouette to the original design; and in general carries itself with what feels like an edgier, angrier feel.

Not that that's a bad thing; quite the opposite - I love the Classics Voyager and will sing its praises to the ends of the Earth! I just find it funny that the original design is represented in every size class other than the one a lot of people would agree is the size class that's 'right' for Optimus

What about combiner wars?

A bit too beefy and bulky to really feel like a representation of the G1 design to me. Just my opinion tho

Isn't the T30 Legends an IDW design? (Still, your point stands )

Very true - though since that design is based on and has very few differences to the original (the only real difference noticeable on the toy would be the shoulder pads), I still count it. Maybe I'm just weird

So then the combiner wars one should count even more than the legends one as it doesn't deviate from the original design it just has sightly different proportions.

News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 3:38 pm

Kurona wrote:First the gun mode, now this. Why did they all of a sudden decide to make Cloudburst awesome?

Cloudburst was always awesome, you're just blinded because of your G1 ignorance. [-(

News Credits: 295 · by **WreckerJack** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 4:08 pm

william-james88 wrote:That deluxe Hot Rod is freaken amazing looking. I cant believe he looks so dead on for a toy that is supposedly quite simple in design.

Agreed. It looks so much better than the previous Rodimus. Seems to me the previous one's face sculpt just didn't look like him and he looked a little too skinny in the waist and chubby in the chest. IDW Roddy is kinda skinny but he isn't proportioned like that figure.

I kinda hope they do the same thing with Perceptor, I wanted him in the beginning but I realized how werid the face sculpt is and it doesn't really look like Percy. Doesn't even have his chin plate. IDK why but it is my personal pet-peeve when beards are not done correctly.

News Credits: 13 · by **steals_your_goats** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 4:11 pm

WreckerJack wrote:
william-james88 wrote:That deluxe Hot Rod is freaken amazing looking. I cant believe he looks so dead on for a toy that is supposedly quite simple in design.

Agreed. It looks so much better than the previous Rodimus. Seems to me the previous one's face sculpt just didn't look like him and he looked a little too skinny in the waist and chubby in the chest. IDW Roddy is kinda skinny but he isn't proportioned like that figure.

I kinda hope they do the same thing with Perceptor, I wanted him in the beginning but I realized how werid the face sculpt is and it doesn't really look like Percy. Doesn't even have his chin plate. IDK why but it is my personal pet-peeve when beards are not done correctly.

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The head sculpt on Perceptor is G1 based not IDW. He didn't have a chin plate in G1

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 4:12 pm

Kurona wrote:I just realised that with this Leader, we have an Optimus in the original G1 design in every size class but Voyager.

Legion - 2010
Legends - T30
Deluxe - Classics 2-pack
Leader - PotP

RobotMasters did the Deluxe size before Classics did. [-(

Also, Hybrid Style is basically Scout class-sized.

Kurona wrote:Can't wait until we get it in Titan class

by **Budder Prime** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 4:28 pm

Now we finally know where Primes trailer vanished to.

by **Budder Prime** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 4:42 pm

RAR wrote:If they ever want to temmper their G1 fetish down a bit - I'd love to see a CW compatible Dinobot Team where the Limbs & Torso are based on the PCC Dinobots - not to mention I'd be happy to see them keep cranking these out for years - I'd also like CW style versions of all the Kreo combiners too.

Heck several of the other PCC Designs would make very interesting toys at the different scale too, the advantage is we'd get expansions to existing premises (Like Dinobots & Constructicons) and yet also get new Characters - also a 5 part Construction combiner has repaint/remould potential for Takara to make into a version of 6 Builder or The Autobot Build team too.

But If they made that cute little Armoured Car or half track into a brand new robot that would be delightful or what about the Monster truck as a Voyager.

People keep hoping they'd make at least some new toys for a change and not just nostalgia farm exclusively - but perhaps you can get a "new toy feeling" by nostaliga farming more obscure things - as was done with Overlord I guess.

Also I do still really want a Proper Thunderwing sometime - so I hope it's not off the table for Prima or Megatronus to be the basis for him in some form - heck the existing mould or a new oner - either is really going to suit him as if you do an IDW's version you can make him a Torso unit and function like a true Mega Pretender too (pretty much). Or they could go for a more G1 look and use the Overlord mould family as the base (Prima looks quite close already). I don't mind if it's an exclusive or a boxed set or if it even take 2 years to show up _ I just think he's super appropriate.

Kind alike I wouldn't mind a CW Sunstorm sometime down the road too.

I am so with you on this idea, when slash was Unveiled as a new Dinobot, I immediately held hopes for a Generations Scorn.

News Credits: 102 · by **Qwan** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 5:31 pm

grimdragon2001 wrote:
Kurona wrote:Honestly... that actually helps. Not for everyone of course, but for me being between deluxe and voyager just works for Hot Rod to me.

I think about the only things I prefer about TR Hot Rod now are the colour scheme and the fact he has a cockpit. Then again, I don't think I've seen this version's car mode alone yet...

yea, i wish the trailer still had its battle station mode, but even as it is, i might just display the Hot Rod part as Rodimus Prime while having TR/Legends Hot Rod as Hot Rod

Currently, it looks like this is gonna be my exact plan too. It's amazing how one good picture can make me do a complete 180 from "not a chance mate" to "I need it NOW PLEASE". I just hope that he really is small-voyager-ish size in reality and it's not just a perspective trick; that slight size change to the smaller Hot Rod robot is gonna make the difference to me whether I need this guy to display as Rodimus Prime (not combined with the trailer 'cause that still looks bleh), or just kinda want him to be a really nice Hot Rod. If I was to imagine any faction leader being a little on the short side, it'd be Roddy anyway.

News Credits: 90 · by **Tyrannacon** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 5:35 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
Kurona wrote:I just realised that with this Leader, we have an Optimus in the original G1 design in every size class but Voyager.

Legion - 2010
Legends - T30
Deluxe - Classics 2-pack
Leader - PotP
RobotMasters did the Deluxe size before Classics did.

Also, Hybrid Style is basically Scout class-sized.

Kurona wrote:Can't wait until we get it in Titan class

Technically wouldn't the CW Voyager Optimus Prime count as the G1 body being used? It's not exact by any means, but I considered it mostly close-ish at least as far as 10 feet away.

*gets rotten vegetables thrown at him*

by **LE0KING** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 5:47 pm

Kurona wrote:
Cobotron wrote:
Kurona wrote:I just realised that with this Leader, we have an Optimus in the original G1 design in every size class but Voyager.

Legion - 2010
Legends - T30
Deluxe - Classics 2-pack
Leader - PotP

Can't wait until we get it in Titan class
Classics doesn't count? Too neo for you?

It's got a fairly heavy amount of stylisation and casts a very different silhouette to the original design; and in general carries itself with what feels like an edgier, angrier feel.

Not that that's a bad thing; quite the opposite - I love the Classics Voyager and will sing its praises to the ends of the Earth! I just find it funny that the original design is represented in every size class other than the one a lot of people would agree is the size class that's 'right' for Optimus

*whispers in KO* "MP10-V"

News Credits: 2 · by **Prowl4** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 5:52 pm

That Hot Rod makes up for how disappointed I was that he was in titans return. It looks fantastic and the fact he upgrades into Rodimus Prime is just brilliant. He's absolutely the gem of this line closely followed by orion to optimus. Can't get over how good the standard hot rod looks.

News Credits: 2 · by **Prowl4** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 6:03 pm

RAR wrote:If they ever want to temmper their G1 fetish down a bit - I'd love to see a CW compatible Dinobot Team where the Limbs & Torso are based on the PCC Dinobots - not to mention I'd be happy to see them keep cranking these out for years - I'd also like CW style versions of all the Kreo combiners too.

Heck several of the other PCC Designs would make very interesting toys at the different scale too, the advantage is we'd get expansions to existing premises (Like Dinobots & Constructicons) and yet also get new Characters - also a 5 part Construction combiner has repaint/remould potential for Takara to make into a version of 6 Builder or The Autobot Build team too.

But If they made that cute little Armoured Car or half track into a brand new robot that would be delightful or what about the Monster truck as a Voyager.

People keep hoping they'd make at least some new toys for a change and not just nostalgia farm exclusively - but perhaps you can get a "new toy feeling" by nostaliga farming more obscure things - as was done with Overlord I guess.

Also I do still really want a Proper Thunderwing sometime - so I hope it's not off the table for Prima or Megatronus to be the basis for him in some form - heck the existing mould or a new oner - either is really going to suit him as if you do an IDW's version you can make him a Torso unit and function like a true Mega Pretender too (pretty much). Or they could go for a more G1 look and use the Overlord mould family as the base (Prima looks quite close already). I don't mind if it's an exclusive or a boxed set or if it even take 2 years to show up _ I just think he's super appropriate.

Kind alike I wouldn't mind a CW Sunstorm sometime down the road too.

To be honest I'm not a fan of the g1 dinobots combining I just think it takes away from their intention and how they've been portrayed. I agree that the pcc dinobots grimstone would've been a way better choice as a Dinobot combiner as it adds new bots to the roster with a history of actually combining. They're all different dinosaurs too bar the core bot who is like a triceratops but it could easily be explained he's slugs brother which would open stories in IDW and other media. Not to mention Grimstone has some cool dinos like the spinosaurus and pachi. Could've swapped the spinosaurus out though for another herbivore. As popular as dinosaurs are I'm curious why hasbro haven't taken that opportunity or even pump out more dinos like scowl in transformers rid who's a decepticon Dino. Lots of dinosaurs and unlimited potential there really that's just wasted. Maybe the repaints and retool of the dinobots will be a new combiner(hopefully ).

by **FireRoad** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 6:06 pm

i will get them all

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 6:07 pm

Prowl4 wrote:I agree that the pcc dinobots grimstone would've been a way better choice as a Dinobot combiner as it adds new bots to the roster with a history of actually combining. They're all different dinosaurs too bar the core bot who is like a triceratops

Grimstone was a Styracosaurus, not a Triceratops.

News Credits: 2 · by **Prowl4** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 6:11 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
Prowl4 wrote:I agree that the pcc dinobots grimstone would've been a way better choice as a Dinobot combiner as it adds new bots to the roster with a history of actually combining. They're all different dinosaurs too bar the core bot who is like a triceratops
Grimstone was a Styracosaurus, not a Triceratops.

That is why I said like a triceratops. ;)^

News Credits: 4 · by **Quantum Surge** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 6:12 pm

steals_your_goats wrote:
Kurona wrote:
Sigma Magnus wrote:
Kurona wrote:
steals_your_goats wrote:
Kurona wrote:
Cobotron wrote:
Kurona wrote:I just realised that with this Leader, we have an Optimus in the original G1 design in every size class but Voyager.

Legion - 2010
Legends - T30
Deluxe - Classics 2-pack
Leader - PotP

Can't wait until we get it in Titan class
Classics doesn't count? Too neo for you?

It's got a fairly heavy amount of stylisation and casts a very different silhouette to the original design; and in general carries itself with what feels like an edgier, angrier feel.

Not that that's a bad thing; quite the opposite - I love the Classics Voyager and will sing its praises to the ends of the Earth! I just find it funny that the original design is represented in every size class other than the one a lot of people would agree is the size class that's 'right' for Optimus

What about combiner wars?

A bit too beefy and bulky to really feel like a representation of the G1 design to me. Just my opinion tho

Isn't the T30 Legends an IDW design? (Still, your point stands )

Very true - though since that design is based on and has very few differences to the original (the only real difference noticeable on the toy would be the shoulder pads), I still count it. Maybe I'm just weird

So then the combiner wars one should count even more than the legends one as it doesn't deviate from the original design it just has sightly different proportions.

Plus, G1 Prime already has some bulk to him. Maybe not to the extent of CW Prime, but you get my point. Wish I had a CW Prime now that Forged To Fight made me appreciate him more.

News Credits: 30 · by **DeathReviews** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 6:26 pm

I like the look of Rippersnapper. The transformaton doesn't seem overly complicated, but he looks good at least. Hun-gurr, I have my doubts. Those front legs don't look very solid, and the rear legs seem a bit... off. But I'll give it a chance because an Abominus remake is mighty welcome after that hatchet job in Transformers Prime Beast Hunters...

News Credits: 295 · by **WreckerJack** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 6:31 pm

Today we bring you a brand new gallery straight from Hascon 2017. This is a continuation of an up close look at some upcoming figures including Rodimus, Optimus Prime with Orion Pax, and more. We have posted a few picks below as a preview though the full gallery has more. Stay tuned for more gallery reveals!

News Credits: 293 · by **shajaki** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 7:08 pm

Hello all. Big fan. Fist time caller, long time listener.

Been lookin at the combiners... it's hard to find the actual combiner ports. Ripper looks like he has a one in his chest. Hungy's hind legs look reminiscent of a combiner torso dude. But Mister Dinobiner? I don't see anything like the other combiners on him.... :-?

News Credits: 22 · by **Rodimus Prime** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 7:13 pm

I just clicked through the gallery and I must say my opinion of Rodimus Prime is improving. I'm still not impressed, but I don't hate it as much as I did at first.

However, my opinion is sinking on Optimus Prime. All that gray on the combined mode is distracting. The truck mode is just hideous. Pax is passable.

The Dreadwing combiner just makes me want to reacquire the original G1 figures. Slash is alright.

News Credits: 3 · by **ArmadaPrime** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 7:13 pm

Qwan wrote:(Not to mention it gives him a huuuge friggin' backpack in robot mode. Like, you couldn't even get him to turn into a plank without relying on a chunk of kibble 2/3 the size of the rest of the robot? Come on now.)

Qwan wrote:
Kurona wrote:I am curious how they'd get around the colour discrepancies between Thunderwing's inner robot and outer robot.

Presumably the same way they'll get around the colour discrepancies between Primal's regular and Optimal forms - however that ends up being done. Bit of a non-answer isn't it, I don't even know why I chimed in now.

I think you might've just answered your own question there

My guess is that the cockpit part will be where most of the orange/blue for the transmetal chest is, hence hiding it on the back of the standard robot mode. Similarly, most of the black and white colours in the regular Primal that wouldn't fit with the Big Boy's colours heme will probably end up as a backpack part.

News Credits: 102 · by **Qwan** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 7:49 pm

ArmadaPrime wrote:
Qwan wrote:(Not to mention it gives him a huuuge friggin' backpack in robot mode. Like, you couldn't even get him to turn into a plank without relying on a chunk of kibble 2/3 the size of the rest of the robot? Come on now.)

Qwan wrote:
Kurona wrote:I am curious how they'd get around the colour discrepancies between Thunderwing's inner robot and outer robot.

Presumably the same way they'll get around the colour discrepancies between Primal's regular and Optimal forms - however that ends up being done. Bit of a non-answer isn't it, I don't even know why I chimed in now.

I think you might've just answered your own question there
My guess is that the cockpit part will be where most of the orange/blue for the transmetal chest is, hence hiding it on the back of the standard robot mode. Similarly, most of the black and white colours in the regular Primal that wouldn't fit with the Big Boy's colours heme will probably end up as a backpack part.

That makes a lot of sense, clever thinking! The only issue being, of course, that plank-mode will look pretty confused color-wise - but I think at this point, we can safely say that mode's secondary to everything else on the toy anyway.