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Sjeng wrote:ok.. this is pretty damn disappointing though:







the upper legs and hips are simply hung off their backs!!!

if they didnt do it that way with predakings upper legs attached to the lower legs razerclaw would end up being a leader class size but i still think predaking is going to be a bit shorter than devastator for being a titan class

Lucky Logician wrote:I'm super curious to see the back side of Optimal Optimus. I still can't quite wrap my head around how the black robot fits into the orange robot (and orange monkey backpack).

It doesn't. The black robot just hangs off the orange monkey's back and butt:

Now I'm not sure if I'm going to buy the oversized MMC Predaking or this one. I'm really not sure, but considering that the ko has a sword, and doesn't have the above issue, I'm definitely leaning towards the big ko.

Amid all the findings of wv2 deluxes..I came up short.
But I did find wv2 legends.

Interestingly local Walmart are hit or miss as most don't carry the masters. Can't wait for more

Sabrblade wrote:

Lucky Logician wrote:I'm super curious to see the back side of Optimal Optimus. I still can't quite wrap my head around how the black robot fits into the orange robot (and orange monkey backpack).

It doesn't. The black robot just hangs off the orange monkey's back and butt:

thats a little disappointing, i wonder if its even necessary to have it hanging there anyway

It is not. You can instead use it as his surfboard.

Ultra Markus wrote:

thats a little disappointing, i wonder if its even necessary to have it hanging there anyway

It's only for the "armored monkey mode". It hang less for the robot mode.

So this is good news/bad news for me I guess. I'm not interested at all in WfC/FoC any Cybebertron figures. That's just not my thing. We don't know much about how PotP is ending and what it's ending with but since I'm only getting the Dinobots, Elita-1, a few legends and probably half the Prime Masters, I think I can budget for Predaking on sale come the end of the year and maybe even Evolution Optimus Prime.

Not planning to spend anything for a while suddenly opens up options that would normally be closed. Another option might be Abominus. I do still need a combiner. I really want Piranacon but if PotP is ending this year I think it will be a few years before we get him. I still don't like Predaking being so much larger than my combiners, but I'll have two with lots of parts to switch out so that's a fair fight I think.

I do wonder if Snapdragon and Apeface will come out in the Cybertron series, and I have the same question about Star Saber. So I'll have to keep some budget in mind for any potential surprises like that. But I'd be surprised if didn't start with better versions of the main figures to start with before going with figures we thought would come out in more recent lines. I may have some hard decisions to make, especially if we get a voyager OP and Megatron, but to me Transformers is an Earth based robots in disguise series. That's what I grew up with and that's how I like it most. I really hope the next toy series goes well and we get some cool animation stories with it, but I'll be happy for the break and happier for the bonus of getting some figures I'd normally never think possible.



On a side note, does anyone know what Octopunch turns into? I still don't think I like it, but I am curious what it is supposed to be. I thought it would become the Forge of Solus Prime. Unless that's a new interpretation?

Bradimus wrote:On a side note, does anyone know what Octopunch turns into?

A crossbow.... maybe?

Bradimus wrote:On a side note, does anyone know what Octopunch turns into? I still don't think I like it, but I am curious what it is supposed to be. I thought it would become the Forge of Solus Prime. Unless that's a new interpretation?

A tentacle whip-like weapon, kinda like the Cat o' nine tails maybe? Better keep the girls away from it. I'll take crossbow too...

That weapon piece is more for decoration of the Shell anyway. Can't have an Octopunch without tentacles in some shape or form, right?

william-james88 wrote:

Ultra Markus wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Lucky Logician wrote:I still can't quite wrap my head around how the black robot fits into the orange robot (and orange monkey backpack).

It doesn't. The black robot just hangs off the orange monkey's back and butt:

thats a little disappointing, i wonder if its even necessary to have it hanging there anyway

It is not. You can instead use it as his surfboard.

I think it must be mistransformed (big surprise). It looks different compared with stock images. Especially since there is no way the black robot could hang like that if the legs were transformed correctly on the orange monkey.

As a side note, were there any pictures of the surfboard or jet mode?

Lucky Logician wrote:As a side note, were there any pictures of the surfboard or jet mode?

Nope. Neither was on display.

So is the successor to PotP a Generations subline or is it just Cyberverse from here on?

Skritz wrote:So is the successor to PotP a Generations subline or is it just Cyberverse from here on?

Cyberverse has nothing to do with Generations. The Prime Wars Trilogy will be succeeded by the War for Cybertron Trilogy (no relation to the video games of the same name, aside from sharing the same concept of "pre-Earth Cybertronian forms").

Sabrblade wrote:

Skritz wrote:So is the successor to PotP a Generations subline or is it just Cyberverse from here on?

Cyberverse has nothing to do with Generations. The Prime Wars Trilogy will be succeeded by the War for Cybertron Trilogy (no relation to the video games of the same name, aside from sharing the same concept of "pre-Earth Cybertronian forms").

Well, I'll be cautiously optimistic on the basis that I 1) like futuristic/alien alt modes and B) because I started collecting around Titans Return, my main lineup of Autobots are retro futuristic vehicles anyway, being the classic Headmasters and the Jumpstarters. With any luck, there will be some decent Cybertronian mode Decepticons to go along with them.

My gut tell me this will be '84 cast all over again but with any luck there might be good take on characters I don't already have. Could use a Shockwave and Soundwave in my collection, for one thing.

Sabrblade wrote:

Skritz wrote:So is the successor to PotP a Generations subline or is it just Cyberverse from here on?

Cyberverse has nothing to do with Generations. The Prime Wars Trilogy will be succeeded by the War for Cybertron Trilogy (no relation to the video games of the same name, aside from sharing the same concept of "pre-Earth Cybertronian forms").

This proves to me how harmful bullshit speculative articles like this one from Tformers can be https://tformers.com/till-all-are-one-i ... /news.html

After Hasbro was clear as can be as to the future of the generations toyline, people are still confused. And all because of some unfounded and really illogical rumour. It was further propogated by a TFW article which also hinted that cyberverse/evergreen designs might take over.

I feel like writing a quick editorial just to clarify things, now that we have the right info, but I fear other sites would see it as me bashing them when all I want to do is course correct the crap they started.

Personally, the next generation line wont be anything really different than what we have gotten. It will just be modern interpretations of old characters. TR Astrotain, for instance, could easily have been something for that line since all we know is that alt modes wont be specifically of the realistic variety. And really, looking at POTP, how many are? Leader Optimus, the two deluxe jets and starscream. The rest could have easil been in a line like what is coming after.

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Ok so about Predaking, I know that the back of the robot modes for the legs look like eye sores and I also think it doesnt look good. But I know why its there. Is so that Steeljaw isnt bigger than the rest. I have the KO Feral Rex and the alt modes are not great, at all. Especially the Steeljaw component which looks completely out of wack in the proportions department. Plus, the combined mode ends up loooking hunched over all the time and a little stumpy since there isnt much leg before the knee. This predaking looks the best out of all of them so far (including G1) and thats due to the better proportioned legs, which of course give this crappy consequence.

In the end, I guess 2 predakings are needed in a collection, this new one and the G1 version to see the potential of the designs. Those G1 animal alt modes are still the best out there.

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Skritz wrote:So is the successor to PotP a Generations subline or is it just Cyberverse from here on?

Cyberverse has nothing to do with Generations. The Prime Wars Trilogy will be succeeded by the War for Cybertron Trilogy (no relation to the video games of the same name, aside from sharing the same concept of "pre-Earth Cybertronian forms").

This proves to me how harmful bullshit speculative articles like this one from Tformers can be https://tformers.com/till-all-are-one-i ... /news.html

After Hasbro was clear as can be as to the future of the generations toyline, people are still confused. And all because of some unfounded and really illogical rumour. It was further propogated by a TFW article which also hinted that cyberverse/evergreen designs might take over.

I feel like writing a quick editorial just to clarify things, now that we have the right info, but I fear other sites would see it as me bashing them when all I want to do is course correct the crap they started.

Personally, the next generation line wont be anything really different than what we have gotten. It will just be modern interpretations of old characters. TR Astrotain, for instance, could easily have been something for that line since all we know is that alt modes wont be specifically of the realistic variety. And really, looking at POTP, how many are? Leader Optimus, the two deluxe jets and starscream. The rest could have easil been in a line like what is coming after.

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Ok so about Predaking, I know that the back of the robot modes for the legs look like eye sores and I also think it doesnt look good. But I know why its there. Is so that Steeljaw isnt bigger than the rest. I have the KO Feral Rex and the alt modes are not great, at all. Especially the Steeljaw component which looks completely out of wack in the proportions department. Plus, the combined mode ends up loooking hunched over all the time and a little stumpy since there isnt much leg before the knee. This predaking looks the best out of all of them so far (including G1) and thats due to the better proportioned legs, which of course give this crappy consequence.

In the end, I guess 2 predakings are needed in a collection, this new one and the G1 version to see the potential of the designs. Those G1 animal alt modes are still the best out there.

What do you mean about "2 Predakings"?

Realistically, is there even a small chance of a Wave 5 of PotP even with the whole 'ending in 2018' part? I'm not really well versed in what the 'spacing' between a wave is, but that Wildfly head on Cutthroat bugs me to no end and make me wonder if there is indeed room to squeeze in a take on Monstructor....or am I just in denial and Hasbro clearly shelved that long ago?

It bugs me because the mold clearly exist and it would be such a shame it gets trashed, especially now that we lack things like the Collector's Club and Botcon.

primalxconvoy wrote:What do you mean about "2 Predakings"?

He just said which two: "this new one and the G1 version".

Skritz wrote:Realistically, is there even a small chance of a Wave 5 of PotP even with the whole 'ending in 2018' part? I'm not really well versed in what the 'spacing' between a wave is, but that Wildfly head on Cutthroat bugs me to no end and make me wonder if there is indeed room to squeeze in a take on Monstructor....or am I just in denial and Hasbro clearly shelved that long ago?

It bugs me because the mold clearly exist and it would be such a shame it gets trashed, especially now that we lack things like the Collector's Club and Botcon.

CW had plenty of unused head molds (that got used by the likes of TakaraTomy and the Club), so that's nothing new really. A full Wave 4 is still possible, only to get us a Waverider to complete the Autobot Pretender roster.

Skritz wrote:Realistically, is there even a small chance of a Wave 5 of PotP even with the whole 'ending in 2018' part? I'm not really well versed in what the 'spacing' between a wave is, but that Wildfly head on Cutthroat bugs me to no end and make me wonder if there is indeed room to squeeze in a take on Monstructor....or am I just in denial and Hasbro clearly shelved that long ago?

It bugs me because the mold clearly exist and it would be such a shame it gets trashed, especially now that we lack things like the Collector's Club and Botcon.

Hasbro rarely says definitive things unless its to say "NO", and with them clearly stating that it ends in 2018, their schedule, then I would find it very hard to believe that there are more than 4 waves. So that answers one of your question.

BUT

That doesnt mean we wont see those molds. As we have seen in every line of this trilogy so far, they will make box sets. I totally see a monstructor/dinoking boxset happening. Those would always have been too niche to be part of a wave anyways, so I would never have seen them as anything else than a box set type thing.

So you are not in denial, there are plenty of opportunities for us to see these molds, it just wont be wave 5 of POTP (which doesnt exist).

I thought boxset weren't going to be 'a thing' after they cancelled them in Titans Return, safe for the Titan-class figures.

william-james88 wrote:

Skritz wrote:Realistically, is there even a small chance of a Wave 5 of PotP even with the whole 'ending in 2018' part? I'm not really well versed in what the 'spacing' between a wave is, but that Wildfly head on Cutthroat bugs me to no end and make me wonder if there is indeed room to squeeze in a take on Monstructor....or am I just in denial and Hasbro clearly shelved that long ago?

It bugs me because the mold clearly exist and it would be such a shame it gets trashed, especially now that we lack things like the Collector's Club and Botcon.

Hasbro rarely says definitive things unless its to say "NO", and with them clearly stating that it ends in 2018, their schedule, then I would find it very hard to believe that there are more than 4 waves. So that answers one of your question.

BUT

That doesnt mean we wont see those molds. As we have seen in every line of this trilogy so far, they will make box sets. I totally see a monstructor/dinoking boxset happening. Those would always have been too niche to be part of a wave anyways, so I would never have seen them as anything else than a box set type thing.

So you are not in denial, there are plenty of opportunities for us to see these molds, it just wont be wave 5 of POTP (which doesnt exist).

Dinoking could be a TT Mall thing

Skritz wrote:I thought boxset weren't going to be 'a thing' after they cancelled them in Titans Return, safe for the Titan-class figures.

I would say that idea is speculation based on the cancellation.

william-james88 wrote:

Skritz wrote:Realistically, is there even a small chance of a Wave 5 of PotP even with the whole 'ending in 2018' part? I'm not really well versed in what the 'spacing' between a wave is, but that Wildfly head on Cutthroat bugs me to no end and make me wonder if there is indeed room to squeeze in a take on Monstructor....or am I just in denial and Hasbro clearly shelved that long ago?

It bugs me because the mold clearly exist and it would be such a shame it gets trashed, especially now that we lack things like the Collector's Club and Botcon.

Hasbro rarely says definitive things unless its to say "NO", and with them clearly stating that it ends in 2018, their schedule, then I would find it very hard to believe that there are more than 4 waves. So that answers one of your question.

BUT

That doesnt mean we wont see those molds. As we have seen in every line of this trilogy so far, they will make box sets. I totally see a monstructor/dinoking boxset happening. Those would always have been too niche to be part of a wave anyways, so I would never have seen them as anything else than a box set type thing.

So you are not in denial, there are plenty of opportunities for us to see these molds, it just wont be wave 5 of POTP (which doesnt exist).

I would also go so far as to say that having ONLY 4 waves is also speculation. Even if PotP is ending in 2018, they can DEFINITELY squeeze in a Wave 5. Especially given how quickly Waves 1 and 2 came out.

Maybe I am the one in denial, but I would be more surprised if there were only 4 waves.

Skritz wrote:I thought boxset weren't going to be 'a thing' after they cancelled them in Titans Return, safe for the Titan-class figures.

Pretty sure Hasbro never said that, that's the point on why they're always vague, to keep their options open. Since they haven't stated why the boxsets were cancelled, there's no reason to assume that they were a failure, especially since they sold pretty well, especially the second one