The Energon Pub

by **frogbat** » Sun Mar 04, 2018 8:25 am

Admittedly, inferno looks pretty good but he’s an easy pass, I’m disappointed he and grapple didn’t get new moulds cos their generations versions are amongst the worst amongst generations figures.

Cindersaur looks ok but nothing I’d bother much with... outback on the other hand is a repaint I was looking forward to. Pity they’re not giving him a gun.. or a paul hogan recorded voice box. It’s figures like him that makes me want to invest in a 3D printer.

MyFigureCollection.net collection · by **Emerje** » Sun Mar 04, 2018 9:16 am

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Could anyone post a time line between votes and figure release for:

- Gen. Windblade
Polls ended May 17, 2013, result revealed at SDCC in July. Figure released September 2014. Pretty short turnaround for a new mold, but still could have been pre-planed since from the first half of the poll only sculpting specific questions were alt mode and weapon (10 options each), while the second poll had gender.

- CW Victorion
Final poll ended either late February or early March 2015 (couldn't find the exact date). Revealed in June 19, 2015, officially released May 2016 (May Mayhem). Pretty average turnaround for retools.

- TR Trypticon
Vote results on December 1, 2015 (yeah, two polls that year). Full reveal didn't happen until February 17, 2017 (Toy Fair) and released July 2017.

- PotP Optimal Optimus[/quote]
Winner announced February 18, 2017 (Toy Fair), figure revealed at HasCon September 2017. Seemingly finished figure at Toy Fair 2018 with release not far away. Very fast turnaround.

None of these went the whole 2 years despite what we've heard from the development teams so they probably did have quite a bit planned out before release. Victorion was showing up in some places before May, but Hasbro was likely holding the figure back well after it was ready because of May Mayhem.

Emerje

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Sun Mar 04, 2018 9:40 am

Again though it could be said that all options could have been planned out to some degree instead of just taking the cynical option that it was a fix.

News Credits: 251 · by **Mindmaster** » Sun Mar 04, 2018 10:18 am

If they make a proper Grapple out of Inferno, I’ll be impressed.

Outback and Cindersaur, eh.

News Credits: 194 · by **RodimusConvoy13** » Sun Mar 04, 2018 10:21 am

frogbat wrote:Admittedly, inferno looks pretty good but he’s an easy pass, I’m disappointed he and grapple didn’t get new moulds cos their generations versions are amongst the worst amongst generations figures.

J/k

I think Inferno, Grapple, and Hot Spot are awesome versions of those characters. I can see if you want them to look more G1 than they do, but they're really fun figures.

by **ZeldaTheSwordsman** » Sun Mar 04, 2018 11:21 am

One more thought on Trypticon getting picked back in TR: The sheer appeal of dinosaurs.

I would certainly like to see Sideswipe as a limb. We should have gotten him instead of Sunstreaker in the first place! Just like we should have gotten Jazz instead of Prowl, and a Deluxe Windcharger instead of Smokescreen (or maybe instead of Wheeljack). At least PotP finally gave us Jazz!

I'm interested in Inferno, though I'm not sure yet whether it would be to give him a faux-windshield on his chest and use him as Inferno, to turn him into a truck body for Elita (because her show altmode is some kind of car or truck) or to turn him into G2 Hot Spot.

Still holding out hope for a PotP Scorn. If they don't make one I'm gonna do my own.

So, does anyone recall the photo I posted showing that G1 Grimlock's weapons are 5mm-compatible? Some of the other G1 Dinobot weapons are 5mm-compatible too:
* Snarl's launcher
* Sludge's sword
* Swoop's launchers

Slag's weapons, Sludge's gun and launcher, and Snarl's gun would require adaptors (5mm pegs with a 3mm hole in the top for most, and a bracket of some kind for Slag's launcher).

by **frogbat** » Sun Mar 04, 2018 11:46 am

RodimusConvoy13 wrote:

J/k I think Inferno, Grapple, and Hot Spot are awesome versions of those characters. I can see if you want them to look more G1 than they do, but they're really fun figures.

Lol, yeah they’re good figures, but for my personal tastes I find them weaker compared to other figures like tracks/wheeljack. And, you are correct, I’d have liked a More direct g1 homage, besides that though, I have an issue with their parts popping off too easily.

by **Skritz** » Sun Mar 04, 2018 12:16 pm

Bronzewolf wrote:Ehh, something just seems off with Inferno. I really want to like him, and, if you told me he was supposed to be a different character, I would.

He's not Inferno. He's 'Fire Chief' that they're selling as Inferno.

News Credits: 18 · by **leokearon** » Sun Mar 04, 2018 12:52 pm

Inferno looks lame, I would prefer a G2 Hotspot over him.
Outback looks good so he will be bought
Cindersaur is poor and a wasted opportunity.

by **ZeldaTheSwordsman** » Sun Mar 04, 2018 1:02 pm

Fire Chief with Inferno's head, that is, Skritz!

He honestly has some appeal to me as a toy of Inferno, thanks to being an actual long ladder truck unlike the Universe toy, even if he'd need to be given a faux-Fuso windshield to really pull off the Inferno look. (Speaking of Mitsubishi Fuso trucks, CW Optimus/Motormaster's altmode looks to be based on the 2010 version of the Fuso).

by **RiddlerJ** » Sun Mar 04, 2018 1:23 pm

DMSL wrote:The only thing that slightly excites me is Outback, i really want a full set of Minibots. He needs his gun. They are already saving money by reusing the mold with only a slight retool, giving him a proper gun would have been so nice. Hasbro and also Takara need to start including guns with their Legends class figures. I don't get why we still have to rely on third parties to make our figures look less naked. Hopefully Dr. Wu or Renderform (still waiting for my Bruticus rifle) will make some Minibot guns.

Now the only one we're missing is Hubcap. Of course he's the hardest one to make a new figure of because he looks so similar to Bumblebee (yellow Cliffjumper retool).

News Credits: 4835 · by **william-james88** » Sun Mar 04, 2018 1:35 pm

Toy Wiz now has a puzzling listing for a Volcanicus set. It is said to include Power of the Primes Grimlock, Swoop, Slug, Slash, Snarl and Sludge, which si very similar to the content we would have gotten in a Combiner Wars type of box set. Could this be the first hint we have to Power of the Primes boxsets? And how would you feel if it was the same toys in slightly better decos? What would make you get a set like this?

Of course, we do not know exactly what this set entails aside from the toys found in it. With this shipping at the same time that wave 2 deluxes are received by online retailers, this could simply be a listing for all the individual bots but done as one order. Also, it is worth noting that while the silhouette has a sword that we do not have yet, it is not a silhouette of the combined toy. Instead it is the Volcanicus character model from the Earth Wars video game.

The preorder is listed at $169.99

News Credits: 9 · by **triKlops** » Sun Mar 04, 2018 1:35 pm

Skritz wrote:
Bronzewolf wrote:Ehh, something just seems off with Inferno. I really want to like him, and, if you told me he was supposed to be a different character, I would.

He's not Inferno. He's 'Fire Chief' that they're selling as Inferno.

This convo reminded me of the Thrilling 30 Hot Spot redeco that has been my Fire Chief substitute.
http://www.tfu.info/2014/Autobot/AKDHotSpot/hotspot.htm

Website · by **DMSL** » Sun Mar 04, 2018 2:00 pm

It would be a very cheap move on Hasbro's part and a kick in the nads of people that already bought the entire set.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Sun Mar 04, 2018 2:03 pm

It could just be ToyWiz themselves selling all five individually-packaged Dinobots as a bundled offer.

by **ZeldaTheSwordsman** » Sun Mar 04, 2018 2:04 pm

You can tell it's a silhouette of the Earth Wars model thanks to Swoop's launchers.

I would hope that the boxset does come with a sword, but not the upsized FOC Grimlock sword seen in Earth Wars. I would want a sword whose design was more in line with the G1 Dinobot swords, and which was possibly a combining weapon like Victorion's sword.

I would also like to see a G2 Volcanicus boxset, because I am a sucker for G2 color schemes (just look at my avatar, I think that says it all).

News Credits: 14 · by **DecepticonFinishline** » Sun Mar 04, 2018 2:15 pm

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:You can tell it's a silhouette of the Earth Wars model thanks to Swoop's launchers.

I would hope that the boxset does come with a sword, but not the upsized FOC Grimlock sword seen in Earth Wars. I would want a sword whose design was more in line with the G1 Dinobot swords, and which was possibly a combining weapon like Victorion's sword.

I would also like to see a G2 Volcanicus boxset, because I am a sucker for G2 color schemes (just look at my avatar, I think that says it all).

Personally, I would be quite peeved to be getting a G2 Volcanicus before a G2 Defensor.... There is a gaping hole in my G2 combiners where Defensor MUST be.

by **Rated X** » Sun Mar 04, 2018 2:27 pm

Why so much? Four $15-20 figures and a $30 torso figure shouldnt be more than $110 wtf???? Better be G2 deco

News Credits: 13 · by **steals_your_goats** » Sun Mar 04, 2018 2:42 pm

Rated X wrote:Why so much? Four $15-20 figures and a $30 torso figure shouldnt be more than $110 wtf???? Better be G2 deco

I wouldn't think too much about the price. Toywiz is notorious for majorly marking stuff up.

News Credits: 13 · by **kurthy** » Sun Mar 04, 2018 2:55 pm

steals_your_goats wrote:
Rated X wrote:Why so much? Four $15-20 figures and a $30 torso figure shouldnt be more than $110 wtf???? Better be G2 deco

I wouldn't think too much about the price. Toywiz is notorious for majorly marking stuff up.

It's all of $12 more than their price for buying the set individually.

News Credits: 1 · by **bluecatcinema** » Sun Mar 04, 2018 2:59 pm

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:The other candidates played into it more obviously.
* Ultra Magnus: ...Enough said, really.
* Megatron: Evolving to most likely Galvatron (corresponding with Rodimus Prime) or else maybe to Super or Ultra Megatron.
* Thunderwing: Adaptation of his Mega Pretender gimmick
* Star Saber: "Evolving" from Saber to Star Saber, working basically like the original toy.
* Optimus Primal (yes, I say this is obvious): Evolving from his regular body to the Optimal Optimus body, since that fits with the Prime themeing and also works better size and engineering-wise than having him evolve to the Transmetal body.

Evolving Megatron, Thunderwing and Star Saber would have been cool. I don't think Ultra Magnus would have worked, considering his lesser known "repaint of Optimus" inner body (not to mention they already did something similar with Minimus Ambus).

News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Sun Mar 04, 2018 3:03 pm

Move on from the poll discussion please, it's not relevant to the thread.

News Credits: 13 · by **steals_your_goats** » Sun Mar 04, 2018 3:11 pm

kurthy wrote:
steals_your_goats wrote:
Rated X wrote:Why so much? Four $15-20 figures and a $30 torso figure shouldnt be more than $110 wtf???? Better be G2 deco

I wouldn't think too much about the price. Toywiz is notorious for majorly marking stuff up.

It's all of $12 more than their price for buying the set individually.

Legends are $11
Deluxe are around $18
Voyagers are $25
So at retail those 6 figures should AT MOST be $108. That's a far cry from $170

News Credits: 13 · by **kurthy** » Sun Mar 04, 2018 3:14 pm

steals_your_goats wrote:
kurthy wrote:
steals_your_goats wrote:I wouldn't think too much about the price. Toywiz is notorious for majorly marking stuff up.

It's all of $12 more than their price for buying the set individually.

Legends are $11
Deluxe are around $18
Voyagers are $25
So at retail those 6 figures should AT MOST be $108. That's a far cry from $170

Which is why Toywiz's price of $29.99 for swoop is insane.
https://toywiz.com/transformers-generations-power-of-the-primes-dinobot-swoop-deluxe-action-figure/

All their prices are ridiculous including $169.99 for a box set.

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Sun Mar 04, 2018 3:18 pm

Would be nice if they added some new stuff there to help with the hard-to-swallow price tag. Would be even cooler if they retooled slash to have her combine with the rest of the team