The Energon Pub

This little tease just keep moving the hype train along Power of the Primes is what I'm about Dinobots,Terrorcons,Predaking,Battletrap,Windcharger,Outback,and Eltia-1and crew. I'm so pumped for Power of the Primes.

Cant' wait - think there will be more skippable toys for me than the previous 2 lines. On one hand I'd have loved larger dinobots to go up against devastator but this way they'll be more affordable. I'm a but non plussed bout some decisions like the new power master.. you crave a pm update since you start collecting and all of a sudden there are 2 back to back, 3 counting the takara version. Same with Hotrod, if they planned it out a bit better they could've held back the TR hotrod and released him as part of the new line...

o.supreme wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:I'm loving the fact that Slash is making a crossover from the movie lines to the generations like. I love that!

Now do the same with Scorn and Nitro Zeus!!

Power of the Primes is looking to be a great line. I'm wondering what they will do with the Cybertron Resistance and Dinobot teams for the combined forms. Totally unprecedented really (Beast will not count for the dinobots). Although, if the Cybertron resistance (using it for the ladies) team combines, it will be the 2nd female combiner. man, we are moving along here!

Though, with the idea that they want to release the entire team in the same wave, where will Jazz, Dreadwind and Darkwing fit in? Wave 2 that is sort of random?

I'm pretty sure that Slash's inclusion in the Generations line has less to do with him being a *beloved* character in the AoE line, and more to do with...Hasbro wanted a random 6th Dinobot, Legends class size. They could have went with any number of character names, or created a new one. Personally I think Sling (the Dimetrodon) would have been an awesome choice but...Raptors since JP and all that...

Paddles!

frogbat wrote:Cant' wait - think there will be more skippable toys for me than the previous 2 lines. On one hand I'd have loved larger dinobots to go up against devastator but this way they'll be more affordable. I'm a but non plussed bout some decisions like the new power master.. you crave a pm update since you start collecting and all of a sudden there are 2 back to back, 3 counting the takara version. Same with Hotrod, if they planned it out a bit better they could've held back the TR hotrod and released him as part of the new line...

Hasbro should have waited - Ultra Magnus should have been in Titans Return with Minimus Ambus as a Titan Master which would have put Powermaster Optimus Prime in Power of the Primes with a proper Power Master.

Rysquad wrote:

frogbat wrote:Cant' wait - think there will be more skippable toys for me than the previous 2 lines. On one hand I'd have loved larger dinobots to go up against devastator but this way they'll be more affordable. I'm a but non plussed bout some decisions like the new power master.. you crave a pm update since you start collecting and all of a sudden there are 2 back to back, 3 counting the takara version. Same with Hotrod, if they planned it out a bit better they could've held back the TR hotrod and released him as part of the new line...

Hasbro should have waited - Ultra Magnus should have been in Titans Return with Minimus Ambus as a Titan Master which would have put Powermaster Optimus Prime in Power of the Primes with a proper Power Master.

But Minimus ambus doesnt become his head, he is instead inside Ultra magnus, as the toy correctly depicts.

Wont argue with POTP for Power Master Prime though.

I really do like Minimus Ambus being his own figure, especially as while not perfect; it means he scales better with other Lost Lighters than a tiny Titan Master would. Still, ideally he'd be around Legends sized. Or maybe around Deluxe for his intermediate form.

william-james88 wrote:

Rysquad wrote:

frogbat wrote:Cant' wait - think there will be more skippable toys for me than the previous 2 lines. On one hand I'd have loved larger dinobots to go up against devastator but this way they'll be more affordable. I'm a but non plussed bout some decisions like the new power master.. you crave a pm update since you start collecting and all of a sudden there are 2 back to back, 3 counting the takara version. Same with Hotrod, if they planned it out a bit better they could've held back the TR hotrod and released him as part of the new line...

Hasbro should have waited - Ultra Magnus should have been in Titans Return with Minimus Ambus as a Titan Master which would have put Powermaster Optimus Prime in Power of the Primes with a proper Power Master.

But Minimus ambus doesnt become his head, he is instead inside Ultra magnus, as the toy correctly depicts.

Wont argue with POTP for Power Master Prime though.

I get that.

I don't really follow the current comic fiction though. My view is more from a tooling and play pattern perspective. Unlike Leaders in Titans Return, Leaders in Combiner Wars don't really interact with the rest of the Combiner Wars line. Ultra Magnus in Combiner Wars seems like a one-off to me.

This could have led to Ultra Magnus with Titan Master Minimus Ambus for the comics or with Titan Master Knock Out or Over-Run for an Energon homage.

Then that mold leads to a proper Power of the Primes Powermaster Optimus Prime...

Rysquad wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Rysquad wrote:

frogbat wrote:Cant' wait - think there will be more skippable toys for me than the previous 2 lines. On one hand I'd have loved larger dinobots to go up against devastator but this way they'll be more affordable. I'm a but non plussed bout some decisions like the new power master.. you crave a pm update since you start collecting and all of a sudden there are 2 back to back, 3 counting the takara version. Same with Hotrod, if they planned it out a bit better they could've held back the TR hotrod and released him as part of the new line...

Hasbro should have waited - Ultra Magnus should have been in Titans Return with Minimus Ambus as a Titan Master which would have put Powermaster Optimus Prime in Power of the Primes with a proper Power Master.

But Minimus ambus doesnt become his head, he is instead inside Ultra magnus, as the toy correctly depicts.

Wont argue with POTP for Power Master Prime though.

I get that.

I don't really follow the current comic fiction though. My view is more from a tooling and play pattern perspective. Unlike Leaders in Titans Return, Leaders in Combiner Wars don't really interact with the rest of the Combiner Wars line. Ultra Magnus in Combiner Wars seems like a one-off to me.

This could have led to Ultra Magnus with Titan Master Minimus Ambus for the comics or with Titan Master Knock Out or Over-Run for an Energon homage.

Then that mold leads to a proper Power of the Primes Powermaster Optimus Prime...

But if they'd waited and made an Ultra Magnus with Minimus Ambus as a Titan Master instead, then people would have been deprived of the Ultra Magnus that we did get which did Minimus Ambus the right way.

Rysquad wrote:
I get that.

I don't really follow the current comic fiction though. My view is more from a tooling and play pattern perspective. Unlike Leaders in Titans Return, Leaders in Combiner Wars don't really interact with the rest of the Combiner Wars line. Ultra Magnus in Combiner Wars seems like a one-off to me.

This could have led to Ultra Magnus with Titan Master Minimus Ambus for the comics or with Titan Master Knock Out or Over-Run for an Energon homage.

Then that mold leads to a proper Power of the Primes Powermaster Optimus Prime...

Trust me, the way they released Ultra Magnus was the best and smartes way possible. Plus, looking at play pattern, its not like the leaders of POTP interact fully with the other figures too. They just have a matrix which can be switched out with a powermaster or titanmaster. So its not even something that only works within POTP.

And I feel we are very fortunate that Hasbro still found ways to give us leaders that are independent of combiners because the sad thing of combiners, especially deluxes, is that they are all simplified to accommodate the combining gimick, at least compared to other Gen deluxes.

Combiners are fun, but when its the same engineering repeated over and over, we get fatigue. Think of it this way, we had 6 waves of new deluxes in combiner wars and by the end there was a very heavy fatigue with the line. But in Titans Return, we are at the end and still want more. Do you know what I mean? For those who like the puzzle aspect of these toys, diversity in molds and engineering is the spice of life.

Just by them now seemingly covering all of the combiner pegs in bot mode is enough to rekindle my interest in CW. Imagine how awesome Prowl, Smokescreen, and Bluestreak would have been if they had shared engineering with Jazz instead of Dead End.

Emerje

We have yet another teaser via the official Hasbro Transformers social media channels, for toys to be revealed or announced at Hascon from tomorrow until Sunday - check out the image mirrored below, showing yet another Dinobot, and what looks to be Rippersnapper!

Or it could be Rippersnapper!


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Va'al wrote:We have yet another teaser via the official Hasbro Transformers social media channels, for toys to be revealed or announced at Hascon from tomorrow until Sunday - check out the image mirrored below, showing yet another Dinobot, and what looks to be Beachcomber!

That is definitely Rippersnapper.

Emerje wrote:Just by them now seemingly covering all of the combiner pegs in bot mode is enough to rekindle my interest in CW. Imagine how awesome Prowl, Smokescreen, and Bluestreak would have been if they had shared engineering with Jazz instead of Dead End.

Emerje

That could go either way. Prowl and his mold mates, along with Dead End and his mold mates all had their pegs covered in bot mode by the fake car hood chest. What made most people tire of those molds was the 10-20 uses between CW, UW and funpub. I suspect if they were all based off the Jazz mode instead, there would still be some apathy toward the Jazz mode then. Basically give us 6+ uses of the same mold, and people will get tired of it.

I think the key is limiting the re-uses of any mold with only a head and deco swap, in favor of more shared engineering and minor retooling.

I think the Dinobot is Slug/Slag.

Dinobot is definitely Snarl, it has spikes on it's tail.

im either thinking that moonracer will be a dragstrip retool

steals_your_goats wrote:Dinobot is definitely Snarl, it has spikes on it's tail.

Nope, take a look at the images avaiable for both Snarl and Slag. The feet and tail match Slag. There are no Pentagon shaped spikes on the tail to match the Stegosaurus design of Snarl. Plus the overall coloring is a match to Slag for the leg. Note that Snarl has gold feet, and Slag has Gray feet.

And the right side of the image is definitely of Rippersnapper as well. The leg design and color matches Rippersnapper's toy. Plus, Hasbro has yet to show off a toy that they previously officially revealed as part of the teasers. They would have just shown the whole picture of Beachcomber.

Yeah, I got the blue and white mixed up, and only spotted the blue leg hanging off the leg later - thanks for the pointer, everyone!

steals_your_goats wrote:Dinobot is definitely Snarl, it has spikes on it's tail.

Yeah, but they're the wrong shape and there's no thagomizer.

You're overthinking the tail. It's not Snarl because there's no thagomizer.

[EDIT]: Dangit, a minute too late.

I'm just wondering, does it really matter that we are right on who exactly is in these preview images? We know the terrorcons, dinobots and fembots will be present at the con tomorrow.

william-james88 wrote:I'm just wondering, does it really matter that we are right on who exactly is in these preview images? We know the terrorcons, dinobots and fembots will be present at the con tomorrow.

Not necessarily, but (to quote Springer) believe it or not, this is the fun part. I, for one, am enjoying analyzing the details of the individual bots teaser reveals to figure out which one it is, and to put my two cents in.

The sparks coming off of the feet make me wonder if it's someone else entirely

I doubt it's Fizzle, even though the leg and chest kinda look like his. The blue part on the lower leg seems to point to Rippersnapper. And that Dinobot is definitely Slag, the spikes are way too small to be Snarl's. Unless Hasbro filed them down due to safety/engineering reasons.