The Energon Pub

I see no reason why they couldn’t have given him bigger toe claws. It makes him look so derpy without them. Looks like a 3rd party company will have to fix this...

Somebody forgot to mention the video was in Chinese lol. But my favorite part was when he broke out the poor mans MP-10 and made fun of the scale with a cartoon clip. Volcanicus looks horrible. Why do his shoulders have to be sticking out so far to make his toeso look like an exaggerated animated superhero physique? Can they be put closer to his chest to get a chunkier torso? Since Fansproject has given us more properly scaled dinobots, I really need the combined mode to look right for any hope of a serious display piece. With slag and swoop and slash in hand, im happy but dammit the scale sucks lol...

It doesn't appear that the shoulders can be brought in, at least not without sacrificing stability, but the intent is that you fill out his sides using the spare hands from two of the limbs.

Bot mode and tree modes are good combined modes suck only transformer I know that long arms and short stumpy legs is optimal primal should have torso mode bigger for legs be longer in combined so it doesn’t look weird put it on all fours look like gorilla hands touch knees

I had to go back and look for images with the fists clipped on to the chest. I definitely prefer the extra fists on. I hadn’t noticed that, so thanks for sharing I also have the FansProject versions (last one preordered), but will probably display both. I liked the smaller Planet X Swoop, too, so maybe these PoTP figures will become favs. I prefer my figures between scout/legends and Voyager scale, really don’t care for the Masterpiece scale, so we’ll see... but I do agree I would rather have the Dinobots larger than the Predacons. I will probably skip the oversized Predacons, having a third-party set I already like. I didn’t care for the giant Devastator from CW, due to both scale and poor detail on the figures.

Allright, after seeing how Volcanicus looks like without the hands to bulk it, I get the impression he may be the 'flimsy one' of the PotP Combiners, much like Menasor had the weakest torso mode of CW (despite this, it should be noted I still really dig the G2 Motormaster as a figure). I'll skip him and any potential retool, unless they are substantially improved or if that torso prove to be more durable and stable than it looks.

For now, back to the original plan: Abominus.

Am I the only one who's just excited we're getting a decent G1 representation of Grimlock finally? I know he's not perfect, but not all of us need MP standards in our toys.

The more I see of the Combiner mode, the less I like it.

I have no problem with any of the PotP figures so far. For me Grimlock is the best of both worlds. Having a fairly faithful adaptation of the original, and working as a Combiner. A well planned combiner that doesn't rely on any previous fan concepts in its design. I'm really happy with this line thus far, filling in a lot of the gaps that CW couldn't get to. I just hope what was leaked (basically 3/4 of the 2018 schedule), isn't all, I hope there is more to come.

o.supreme wrote:I have no problem with any of the PotP figures so far. For me Grimlock is the best of both worlds. Having a fairly faithful adaptation of the original, and working as a Combiner. A well planned combiner that doesn't rely on any previous fan concepts in its design. I'm really happy with this line thus far, filling in a lot of the gaps that CW couldn't get to. I just hope what was leaked (basically 3/4 of the 2018 schedule), isn't all, I hope there is more to come.

If I understood the leaks correctly, they gave us all of 2018, not just 3/4. Wave 4 PotP is going to be like wave 6 TR with 1 new deluxe and re-releases from the first 3 waves filling out the rest of the wave. This would also match up calendar-wise with the re-release wave being out in the run up to Christmas. Waves 5 and 6 would be in 2019 (with some possible early sightings ahead of Christmas like PotP wave 1 this year.

Well, I can accept that *IF* a proposed 5th/6th waves had mostly new content (we still haven't seen the last 4 of the Prime Masters in any form...) But if the line just abruptly stopped at the end of 2018, then I'd be disappointed with its lack of completeness.

Madeus Prime wrote:Am I the only one who's just excited we're getting a decent G1 representation of Grimlock finally? I know he's not perfect, but not all of us need MP standards in our toys.

I'm super excited about G1 dinobots! I have Slag and Swoop in hand and they are glorious. Swoop is damn near perfect to me. I'm usually not one to care too much about scale, but I do wish Slag was larger. Still a great figure nonetheless. Can't wait to get my hands on Grimlock and the others! Minus any potential QC issues, I'm sure I'll love the whole set, scale be damned. The combining aspect is an added bonus I'll likely never take advantage of.

The more I see of Grimlock and Starscream the more I like them. I just wish Starscream didn't have those crap stickers but I guess that's what reprolabels is for. Usually I'd wait to see what Takara does but I feel like if they do Starscream (which we have no reason to believe they won't) I have a feeling they'd go with a ghost version.

Grimlock looks really nice too but I just wish the combined modes shoulders stopped at Grimlock's shoulders. The extra bits that stick out just make it look off.

Swoop is perfect, imho -- still not sold on Grimmy.

When will we start seeing the Prime Masters in-stores.....

o.supreme wrote:Well, I can accept that *IF* a proposed 5th/6th waves had mostly new content (we still haven't seen the last 4 of the Prime Masters in any form...) But if the line just abruptly stopped at the end of 2018, then I'd be disappointed with its lack of completeness.

Surely they can at the very least work in a Monstructor in there, reusing a mix of Dinobots and Terrorcon molds. Especially since we've seen Cutthroat with an oddly Wildfly/Yokuryu head. He's one more combiner I expect but my hopes is that we could at least see Piranacon too. If not, oh well, I suppose it's not too bad since we could always see the Seacon later down the road in Generations since the combiner peg-and-port system for Deluxe+Voyager is a working model.

Meanwhile, Jazz remain a total anomaly to me. Why Jazz? Why the hell make a Deluxe Combiner Car that is a brand new mold and why make it Jazz? Why is it in there? Why not retool the CW Cars instead? Why bother with a new mold at all? And, again, why Jazz? Is there a plan to reuse this mold in later waves as a different character?

However: Could it be PotP suffered crippling budget cuts and that's why there are less new figures? Or are there just less Leader-class figures which is why Leader Evolution Optimus is getting a repack? Or alternatively, is there the expectations that it would be a figure high on demand, hence why it's showing up in two waves?

Skritz wrote: Meanwhile, Jazz remain a total anomaly to me. Why Jazz? Why the hell make a Deluxe Combiner Car that is a brand new mold and why make it Jazz? Why is it in there? Why not retool the CW Cars instead? Why bother with a new mold at all? And, again, why Jazz? Is there a plan to reuse this mold in later waves as a different character?

Jazz and Sideswipe are the only original Autobot Standard vehicles that didn't get a release in CW. I think some fans (at least myself) are hoping we will get a Sideswipe down the line, and perhaps 2 other Autobot cars from the 1985 line to complete the Autobot Combiner in which Inferno will be the torso. If Hasbro doesn't hopefully TT will.

o.supreme wrote:Jazz and Sideswipe are the only original Autobot Standard vehicles that didn't get a release in CW.

Oooh, okay, this make perfect sense, then

Skritz wrote:

o.supreme wrote:Jazz and Sideswipe are the only original Autobot Standard vehicles that didn't get a release in CW.

Oooh, okay, this make perfect sense, then

I think they counted Sideswipe's involvement with his RiD self forming an arm of Ultra Bee. But of course it is not G1, something else entirely, but still a thought since they share the name, color, and mostly the look.

I wouldn't mind a Sideswipe though. I only have the MP, and I want a generations version.

Still gonna wait to see a Road Caesar down the line from someone soon hopefully

Finally found the deluxe's at a local Target. Picked up Dreadwind since I'm waiting on Takara for the rest of them. I really like him he's a solid figure, but to be fair he's coming from the already good Skydive mold. His prime card was Megatronus if anyone was wondering.

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Skritz wrote:

o.supreme wrote:Jazz and Sideswipe are the only original Autobot Standard vehicles that didn't get a release in CW.

Oooh, okay, this make perfect sense, then

I think they counted Sideswipe's involvement with his RiD self forming an arm of Ultra Bee. But of course it is not G1, something else entirely, but still a thought since they share the name, color, and mostly the look.

I wouldn't mind a Sideswipe though. I only have the MP, and I want a generations version.

Still gonna wait to see a Road Caesar down the line from someone soon hopefully

Well, to be fair, Sideswipe can just be a red Sunstreaker with a new head and added port for Prime Armor.

Skritz wrote:Well, to be fair, Sideswipe can just be a red Sunstreaker with a new head and added port for Prime Armor.

I thought the whole concept of Sideswipe and Sunstreaker were that they had the same alt mode but different looking robot modes since they end up with different car parts on their chests. If they end up with the same look then I dont think that works at all.

RodimusRex wrote:I’ve been checking boxes and it looks to me like most of the Jazzes I find now are corrected.

If you see that, please send us a picture, that would be big news.

Madeus Prime wrote:Am I the only one who's just excited we're getting a decent G1 representation of Grimlock finally? I know he's not perfect, but not all of us need MP standards in our toys.

How did you feel about the previous G1 styled oyager grimlock we got, the Target exclusive from AOE?

bodrock wrote:When will we start seeing the Prime Masters in-stores.....

December/January

o.supreme wrote:I just hope what was leaked (basically 3/4 of the 2018 schedule), isn't all, I hope there is more to come.

hasbro confirmed all 12 Prime Masters would be released so we have more waves to come that have yet to be leaked.

Skritz wrote:Why not retool the CW Cars instead?

Because Hasbro is benevolent and knew that if they did, they would give me a heart attack.

Skritz wrote:However: Could it be PotP suffered crippling budget cuts and that's why there are less new figures? Or are there just less Leader-class figures which is why Leader Evolution Optimus is getting a repack? Or alternatively, is there the expectations that it would be a figure high on demand, hence why it's showing up in two waves?

The budget is the same. TR had 4 Leaders in he first 3 waves (Optimus, Blaster, Soundwave and Sixshot) and so does POTP (Rodimus, Optimus, Rodimus Unicronus and Optimus Primal). Plus 3 of the 4 in POTP are completely new molds while only 2 of the 4 in TR were new molds.
So budget wise, looking at the leaders, it looks like POTP has even more budget given on average per wave.

Yer the Man, Will.

And I dig that voyager Grimlock!

william-james88 wrote:How did you feel about the previous G1 styled oyager grimlock we got, the Target exclusive from AOE?

Not a huge fan of the mold, I like my inaccurate postured Grimlock. Plus this figure is just too hollow.

For a long while now, people have been thinking about what might happen to the Legends line from Takara Tomy Transformers, which has seen gathering together a fair few lines released as separate by their US counterpart company Hasbro. With Titans Return appearing in Legends, but Combiner Wars making up the Unite Warriors line, the latest line of Power of the Primes could have gone either way.

It appears we have an answer, courtesy of Planet Iacon over on Facebook, who bring us the full list of the first releases of Power of the Prime by Takara Tomy - though yet unnamed and lacking images - with the PP code for every figure (much like UW for Unite Warriors, or LG for Legends)! Currently scheduled for a May 2018 release, we're bound to hear more about this in the coming months, as only three Prime Masters, three Legend class, one Deluxe and two Leaders are currently shown off. Check it out below!

Takara Transformers Power of Prime Series:

PP-01 Micronus, 800 Yen
PP-02 Liege Maximo, 800 Yen
PP-03 Vector Prime, 800 Yen
PP-04 Dinobot Slash, 1500 Yen
PP-05 Wind Charger, 1500 Yen
PP-06 Beach comber, 1500 Yen
PP-07 Autobot Jazz, 2800 Yen
PP-08 Rodimus Prime, 7000 Yen
PP-09 Optimus Prime, 7000 Yen

All scheduled to be released on May 2018

I've had two Grimlocks -- the G1 original (who's dinohead is hanging by cracked plastic) and the recent Platinum Dinobots (Bayformer bodies + G1styled heads/colors + vacuum metalized).The original's alt mode T-Rex was perfect. But dem legs in bot mode? Maybe if he truly is part chicken.

My Platinum Grim looks interesting in alt mode, but his bot legs make Tall Man look short. If I wanted perfect, though, I'd save up for the MP.

I'm curious how PotP Grimlock will look in-hand...but I don't love his T-Rex.