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bvzxa wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:I want my Blast Off!

I have the Unite Warriors version, and I hope Hasbro fixes some issues I have with it. I too am excited to see what they do with it

TakaraTomy already fixed one issue with the UW Shuttler (aka RiD Movor) redeco: the head is now less likely to pop off randomly. Such mold tweaks or fixes are permanent most of the time.

bvzxa wrote:Even if its under licence, Hasbro owns the brand and IP.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brand_licensing if they owned the brand they wouldn't need to license from Takara.

steals_your_goats wrote:

bvzxa wrote:Even if its under licence, Hasbro owns the brand and IP.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brand_licensing if they owned the brand they wouldn't need to license from Takara.

What Hasbro owns is the Transformers name, character names, and likenesses (and maybe the cartoon eps produced by Marvel and Sunbow), but they don't own the toys, even the toys Hasbro made themselves like Rescue Bots. It's really not much different from when they got GoBots from buying Tonka, they got the character names and brand name, but the toys and toy likenesses stayed with Bandai and the cartoon Likenesses stayed with Hanna Barbera/WB. Owning something doesn't mean you own all of it. Oh, and Hasbro can't take anything away from Takara Tomy since Japan has its own trademark and copyright laws so they also own the same names and whatnot (in Japan), but also own the figures. It's very complicated, but don't confuse Hasbro being allowed to take the lead on things with them being able to tell Takara Tomy what to do. Takara Tomy releasing Power of the Primes like this is because they want to and they'd rather focus their resources elsewhere.

Oh, and the 10 pounds on Blast Off is probably the case weight erroneously being entered.

Emerje

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Albatross250 wrote:I never realized that Blot was an Ogre after all.

So if he got into a skirmish would that be an Ogre Battle?

Come tonight, come to the ogre site! Come to ogre battle fight!

Black Hat wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Albatross250 wrote:I never realized that Blot was an Ogre after all.

So if he got into a skirmish would that be an Ogre Battle?

Come tonight, come to the ogre site! Come to ogre battle fight!

I swear everyone's going to make an army of Ogres


Also that SONG REFERENCE THOUGH

I think just make him turn into upsized Voyager-class with some minor retools and then boom you got a Turtler

Albatross250 wrote:I think just make him turn into upsized Voyager-class with some minor retools and then boom you got a Turtler

I would suggest to retool CW Sky Lynx

Lunatic Prime wrote:

Albatross250 wrote:I think just make him turn into upsized Voyager-class with some minor retools and then boom you got a Turtler

I would suggest to retool CW Sky Lynx

At that point, they might as well make a whole new mold since Sky Lynx lacks a traditional robot mode (and his torso mode doesn't resemble that of King Poseidon).

I sadly think you may be over thinking things, though I wouldn't say no to the seacons (as long as we get all six members...but I don't mind if they sacrifice the targetmaster gimmick)

ZeroWolf wrote:

o.supreme wrote:

Albatross250 wrote:I never realized that Blot was an Ogre after all.

Speaking of which. Is it just me, or does the city-scape in the background of Blot's artwork evoke the look of the Seacons/Piranacon? Foreshadowing , I hope?....

I sadly think you may be over thinking things, though I wouldn't say no to the seacons (as long as we get all six members...but I don't mind if they sacrifice the targetmaster gimmick)

If they make the Seacons they have to include the Targetmaster gimmick to give us all 6 or make the 6th one into a chest armor or something like what they did in Combiner Wars. And I wouldn't mind if for example Sea Wing turns into Piranacon's sword.

o.supreme wrote:Speaking of which. Is it just me, or does the city-scape in the background of Blot's artwork evoke the look of the Seacons/Piranacon? Foreshadowing , I hope?....

It's just you.

It was speculated that the face on Hun-Gurrr at HasCon -- the one that was hidden by a decepticon symbol -- was actually a remolded head for Snaptrap. If you look at some of the other forums, a retool into Snaptrap could actually work out.

Again we are talking about speculation here, but it seems like we have a lot of the pieces for the Seacons (and we have discussed this before). After seeing the Terrorcons, I definitely see Hasbro **AT SOME POINT** doing some retooling to make Seacons. It might not be for PotP but...


Hun Gurrr can be retooled into Snaptrap

Overbite and Skalor could both be relatively simple retools of Rippersnapper, and still look right in beast mode, though the transformation might be backward from the original toys.

Seawing could be a Swoop/Cutthroat retool. Basically just reverse the mold for the manta ray mode. Swoops bot mode arms becomes the manta legs, and the bot mode legs become the manta head.

Nautilator could just be based of Sinnertwin. Remove the back legs, pop some crustacean-like legs either on the torso, or the arms. If the arms have the beast legs, then the beast head has the claws attached as an accessory. If not, the arms are the claw arms.

Tentakil, is a toughy. I can see it being another Swoop based mold done in the same way as Seawing. Or it could be done in a similar manner as Nautilator. Any thoughts on this one?


Anyway, it's all just speculation at this point. Hasbro has probably bottled things up even further after the PotP big leak over the summer.

mordhelm wrote:It was speculated that the face on Hun-Gurrr at HasCon -- the one that was hidden by a decepticon symbol -- was actually a remolded head for Snaptrap. If you look at some of the other forums, a retool into Snaptrap could actually work out.

Why would display or even make a Hungurrr with a Snaptrap head?

I think if we're getting Seacons at all one of them will be a legends figure.

Lunatic Prime wrote:

mordhelm wrote:It was speculated that the face on Hun-Gurrr at HasCon -- the one that was hidden by a decepticon symbol -- was actually a remolded head for Snaptrap. If you look at some of the other forums, a retool into Snaptrap could actually work out.

Why would display or even make a Hungurrr with a Snaptrap head?

if you look closely you'll see that the head behind the decepticon sigil is not Hun-Grrr's head. Pretty much every figure Hasbro makes has a secondary head to be used for repaints should the need arise. I don't think it's Snaptraps head though. I prefer the IDW Strafe theory.

mordhelm wrote:It was speculated that the face on Hun-Gurrr at HasCon -- the one that was hidden by a decepticon symbol -- was actually a remolded head for Snaptrap. If you look at some of the other forums, a retool into Snaptrap could actually work out.

Again we are talking about speculation here, but it seems like we have a lot of the pieces for the Seacons (and we have discussed this before). After seeing the Terrorcons, I definitely see Hasbro **AT SOME POINT** doing some retooling to make Seacons. It might not be for PotP but...


Hun Gurrr can be retooled into Snaptrap

Overbite and Skalor could both be relatively simple retools of Rippersnapper, and still look right in beast mode, though the transformation might be backward from the original toys.

Seawing could be a Swoop/Cutthroat retool. Basically just reverse the mold for the manta ray mode. Swoops bot mode arms becomes the manta legs, and the bot mode legs become the manta head.

Nautilator could just be based of Sinnertwin. Remove the back legs, pop some crustacean-like legs either on the torso, or the arms. If the arms have the beast legs, then the beast head has the claws attached as an accessory. If not, the arms are the claw arms.

Tentakil, is a toughy. I can see it being another Swoop based mold done in the same way as Seawing. Or it could be done in a similar manner as Nautilator. Any thoughts on this one?


Anyway, it's all just speculation at this point. Hasbro has probably bottled things up even further after the PotP big leak over the summer.

1. I hope makes them 2. I would bet that if does make them set will be 1 voyager and 5 deluxe figures. 3. Your list of retools makes good sence to me (it should i was thinking the same thing) except snaptrap from hun-gurr?

steals_your_goats wrote:

Lunatic Prime wrote:

mordhelm wrote:It was speculated that the face on Hun-Gurrr at HasCon -- the one that was hidden by a decepticon symbol -- was actually a remolded head for Snaptrap. If you look at some of the other forums, a retool into Snaptrap could actually work out.

Why would display or even make a Hungurrr with a Snaptrap head?

if you look closely you'll see that the head behind the decepticon sigil is not Hun-Grrr's head. Pretty much every figure Hasbro makes has a secondary head to be used for repaints should the need arise. I don't think it's Snaptraps head though. I prefer the IDW Strafe theory.

It can't be Snaptrap because those heads are tied with other significant parts. Snaptrap is a turtle (without a robot mode in the Masterforce anime like all the Seacons if I may add), so his head is likely tied to those turtle parts, and not Hun-Gurrr's Algean two-headed razorbeast parts.

And who says it has to be G1? Onslaught's alternate head was revealed to be Armada Demolishor, so the Unicron Trilogy and Beast Wars by extension are fair game as well.

Optimus Prime is so much fun.




BTW, don't put both Prime and Rodimus Prime's Matrices in Overlords chest. I had to unscrew his torso to get them out.

Hotconvoy wrote:1. I hope makes them 2. I would bet that if does make them set will be 1 voyager and 5 deluxe figures. 3. Your list of retools makes good sence to me (it should i was thinking the same thing) except snaptrap from hun-gurr?

5 Deluxes? Would be cool and very much like the old toy. But I'm not sure if I don't prefer Sea Wing to be the sword.

On further reflection it would possibly be overbite or nautilator that would get the legends treatment to become the gun (might be wrong but I think it was overbite who wound up becoming the gun in masterforce)

Five deluxes is a stretch as they would have to come with accessories to turn their combiner port into a handle for a gun mode.

ZeroWolf wrote:On further reflection it would possibly be overbite or nautilator that would get the legends treatment to become the gun (might be wrong but I think it was overbite who wound up becoming the gun in masterforce)

Five deluxes is a stretch as they would have to come with accessories to turn their combiner port into a handle for a gun mode.

Forget that: think of the weight and those poor hip joints on the arms! Some have problems with Legends Class Weapon Modes already, let alone Deluxe Class ones.

If Piranacon is made, its probably Nautilator who'll get left out. He was left out of the Hasbro giftset, plus the BWII God Neptune redeco.

now that Hasbro is releasing the takara version of blastoff I wonder if they'll do the same with the takara version of computron later?

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:It can't be Snaptrap because those heads are tied with other significant parts. Snaptrap is a turtle (without a robot mode in the Masterforce anime like all the Seacons if I may add), so his head is likely tied to those turtle parts, and not Hun-Gurrr's Algean two-headed razorbeast parts.

And who says it has to be G1? Onslaught's alternate head was revealed to be Armada Demolishor, so the Unicron Trilogy and Beast Wars by extension are fair game as well.

What if it's Cybertron Scourge, not a total match, but the bot mode is burly and the beast mode is a multi-headed dragon, or it could also be rid megs, as he was a two-headed dragon also

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:On further reflection it would possibly be overbite or nautilator that would get the legends treatment to become the gun (might be wrong but I think it was overbite who wound up becoming the gun in masterforce)

Five deluxes is a stretch as they would have to come with accessories to turn their combiner port into a handle for a gun mode.

Forget that: think of the weight and those poor hip joints on the arms! Some have problems with Legends Class Weapon Modes already, let alone Deluxe Class ones.

If Piranacon is made, its probably Nautilator who'll get left out. He was left out of the Hasbro giftset, plus the BWII God Neptune redeco.

I forgot about theweight aspect, it probably would break the joints! Suppose the old g1 toy couldn't lift it's weapon up either, awesome idea in theory (that of the limbs having a gun form) but not very practical in reality.

ZeroWolf wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:On further reflection it would possibly be overbite or nautilator that would get the legends treatment to become the gun (might be wrong but I think it was overbite who wound up becoming the gun in masterforce)

Five deluxes is a stretch as they would have to come with accessories to turn their combiner port into a handle for a gun mode.

Forget that: think of the weight and those poor hip joints on the arms! Some have problems with Legends Class Weapon Modes already, let alone Deluxe Class ones.

If Piranacon is made, its probably Nautilator who'll get left out. He was left out of the Hasbro giftset, plus the BWII God Neptune redeco.

I forgot about theweight aspect, it probably would break the joints! Suppose the old g1 toy couldn't lift it's weapon up either, awesome idea in theory (that of the limbs having a gun form) but not very practical in reality.

I wonder if Moonracer's and Novastar's arm modes will work better because of the extra shelled elbows