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Oh good. I'm glad we're gonna get a full set of Autobot limbs to finish off PotP. So I guess I'll use Moonracer and Novastar as arms and Jazz and Wreck-Gar as legs for Inferno. That should be a pretty uniform color scheme of mostly red and white with some orange accents and a splash of teal. Sounds good.

Keep in mind, everyone, that Hasbro considered TR Arcee and Grotusque to have "premium" paint jobs on top of coming with the extra diecast metal Titan Master head accessories. That, along with the limited run of these items requiring extensive retooling (e.i., more than a head swap) is probably where the higher MSRP comes from as far as Hasbro is concerned. Wreck-Gar, on the other hand, comes with nothing extra that wasn't in a standard Combiner Wars deluxe release, though the HandFootGun from the original deluxe Groove mold seems to have been replaced by a new Power of the Primes Dinobot hand. Does he even come with any other weapon accessories? Plus, this looks to be a very basic repaint with the only new tooling being the head. I'm sure PotP Wreck-Gar will be no more than $18-20 at Walgreens (they inflate their prices on toys compared to other retailers, except maybe (the doomed?) Toys 'R' Us).

Thank you!!!

william-james88 wrote:

Targetmaster Kup wrote:Someone please remind me, can this Deluxe robot mode ride on the motorcycle mode of this mold?

... ehh sure, why not.

If they can give deluxe Groove a new head and paint, then they should do the same to CW Afterburner to create Greenlight and Lancer

TaraTech wrote:If they can give deluxe Groove a new head and paint, then they should do the same to CW Afterburner to create Greenlight and Lancer

I'd think that mold would work better for Chromia, honestly. She's pretty well established as a Cybertronian "motorcycle" at this point. I'm hard pressed to think of good Combiner Wars reuses for Greenlight and Lancer, though. I'd rather they be new molds, but the chances of us getting something like that any time soon, even through "exclusive" distribution channels, seem very unlikely.

william-james88 wrote:

Targetmaster Kup wrote:Someone please remind me, can this Deluxe robot mode ride on the motorcycle mode of this mold?

That is awesome.

TaraTech wrote:If they can give deluxe Groove a new head and paint, then they should do the same to CW Afterburner to create Greenlight and Lancer

Forget Greenlight and Lancer, if makes anymore deluxes in PotP let it be SIDESWIPE PLEASE.

Hotconvoy wrote:

TaraTech wrote:If they can give deluxe Groove a new head and paint, then they should do the same to CW Afterburner to create Greenlight and Lancer

Forget Greenlight and Lancer, if makes anymore deluxes in PotP let it be SIDESWIPE PLEASE.

Actually we need all those plus 3 more (1 more bot for Inferno, and 2 more cons for Starscream...)

We know repugnus is still coming...but part of me thinks ot will be a heavy retool of TR Grotosque/Twinferno to match the other Monsterbots. The of course part of me thinks it could be a Rippersnapper/Blot retool , then we'd have another deluxe Limb, but he would be split apart from the other Monsterbots... o

At least he'll work well as a random junkion.

Hotconvoy wrote:

TaraTech wrote:If they can give deluxe Groove a new head and paint, then they should do the same to CW Afterburner to create Greenlight and Lancer

Forget Greenlight and Lancer, if makes anymore deluxes in PotP let it be SIDESWIPE PLEASE.

Ha, dont put your hopes up, we have listings for a few other toys but not him. Instead you will probably get:

Repugnus
Blastoff
Counterpunch

william-james88 wrote:

Hotconvoy wrote:

TaraTech wrote:If they can give deluxe Groove a new head and paint, then they should do the same to CW Afterburner to create Greenlight and Lancer

Forget Greenlight and Lancer, if makes anymore deluxes in PotP let it be SIDESWIPE PLEASE.

Ha, dont put your hopes up, we have listings for a few other toys but not him. Instead you will probably get:

Repugnus
Blastoff
Counterpunch

I know. I just want to stay hopeful, but you're most likly right that they just wont make him
#whatHasbrocouldhavemade, or #whatcouldhavebeen

Flashwave wrote:You hsve to keep in mind produxtion cosrs vs run size. The new toolimg for Arcee's face, shoulders, hood, guns, and spoiler fin was probably $5,000. Remember, that tooling is a solid hunk of metal tempered to withstand the temperature of molten plastic repeatedly and then have the pieces removed. Those tooling costs are on top of standard production costs (minus previous tooling paid for by mainline run), so you are dividing most of that 5 grand across a toy run of what, 1000 toys? Maybe two? Vs a mainline run, which is usually less complex, and a run of 10s of thousands of toys

Yeah, for sure. I didn’t intend any implication that it was bad or unfair. I own and enjoy both and didn’t feel bad about paying the somewhat higher price.

RodimusConvoy13 wrote:TRU sold all TLK deluxes for 19.99. As did all retailers at first except for Walmart.

Well, I’m just stating what I personally saw at my store. Around here (central Texas) sometimes even the two nearby TRUs don’t have the same price as eachother ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

william-james88 wrote:

Hotconvoy wrote:

TaraTech wrote:If they can give deluxe Groove a new head and paint, then they should do the same to CW Afterburner to create Greenlight and Lancer

Forget Greenlight and Lancer, if makes anymore deluxes in PotP let it be SIDESWIPE PLEASE.

Ha, dont put your hopes up, we have listings for a few other toys but not him. Instead you will probably get:

Repugnus
Blastoff
Counterpunch

I'm still really curious about that Counterpunch lead. The TFCC already did a "Counterpunch" only repaint for the subscription service of one of the CW car molds. Might this be the same put in a new "Punch" deco from Hasbro, only called "Counterpunch" instead for trademark reasons? Or maybe, it'll be a retool of a Titans Return car mold with two different Titan Master head options for Punch and Counterpunch? It seems like Hasbro is almost spoiling us with exclusive and special edition figures this year.

Wolfman Jake wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Hotconvoy wrote:

TaraTech wrote:If they can give deluxe Groove a new head and paint, then they should do the same to CW Afterburner to create Greenlight and Lancer

Forget Greenlight and Lancer, if makes anymore deluxes in PotP let it be SIDESWIPE PLEASE.

Ha, dont put your hopes up, we have listings for a few other toys but not him. Instead you will probably get:

Repugnus
Blastoff
Counterpunch

I'm still really curious about that Counterpunch lead. The TFCC already did a "Counterpunch" only repaint for the subscription service of one of the CW car molds. Might this be the same put in a new "Punch" deco from Hasbro, only called "Counterpunch" instead for trademark reasons? Or maybe, it'll be a retool of a Titans Return car mold with two different Titan Master head options for Punch and Counterpunch? It seems like Hasbro is almost spoiling us with exclusive and special edition figures this year.

Could it just be them selling off the extra subscription service ones?

Hotconvoy wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Hotconvoy wrote:

TaraTech wrote:If they can give deluxe Groove a new head and paint, then they should do the same to CW Afterburner to create Greenlight and Lancer

Forget Greenlight and Lancer, if makes anymore deluxes in PotP let it be SIDESWIPE PLEASE.

Ha, dont put your hopes up, we have listings for a few other toys but not him. Instead you will probably get:

Repugnus
Blastoff
Counterpunch

I'm still really curious about that Counterpunch lead. The TFCC already did a "Counterpunch" only repaint for the subscription service of one of the CW car molds. Might this be the same put in a new "Punch" deco from Hasbro, only called "Counterpunch" instead for trademark reasons? Or maybe, it'll be a retool of a Titans Return car mold with two different Titan Master head options for Punch and Counterpunch? It seems like Hasbro is almost spoiling us with exclusive and special edition figures this year.

Could it just be them selling off the extra subscription service ones?

What extras? They all sold completely out in the Club's final "everything must go" sale.

I'm really excited about that Abominus...
I hope P.E. makes an add-on set for new hands and feet, but other than that, I'm beyond happy with the look of him!

Not so much different in concept from this guy:


Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Wreck-Gar Gallery

Thing is, could that Deluxe one be the Wreck-Gar they were thinking of originally for Sky Reign? And good thing he comes with a Dino Hand Armor, I need an extra. I may have his original Gen. weapon somewhere...

I want some junkions now as well.

Doesn't look very much like Wreck-Gar to me except for the new head. But what's better, this one or the Generations one that breaks?

Rainmaker wrote:Doesn't look very much like Wreck-Gar to me except for the new head. But what's better, this one or the Generations one that breaks?

I cut the nubs on the generations one so it wont break. Its a great design and a cool original mold, better than this (once you fix it)

william-james88 wrote:

Rainmaker wrote:Doesn't look very much like Wreck-Gar to me except for the new head. But what's better, this one or the Generations one that breaks?

I cut the nubs on the generations one so it wont break. Its a great design and a cool original mold, better than this (once you fix it)

No way this one is way better then that peace of trash

william-james88 wrote:

Rainmaker wrote:Doesn't look very much like Wreck-Gar to me except for the new head. But what's better, this one or the Generations one that breaks?

I cut the nubs on the generations one so it wont break. Its a great design and a cool original mold, better than this (once you fix it)

Does cutting the nubs change how it looks? What part are even the nubs?

will this junkion be the only version because they should have at least 3 more variant junkions than wreck-gar

Was there any fan modes for linking legends wreck-gar to sky reign? I keep seeing the legends wreck-gar when looking about online for legends groove again, was he just a head swap and new deco?