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by **Blitzwing is bae** » Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:36 am

In my opinion I think they both look really good and will be worth picking up, however, wheres the paint on rupugnus's head! and also, wher do the little prime masters or whatever go

News Credits: 28 · by **ZeroWolf** » Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:37 am

That punch looks great, I'm really surprised it's a new mold. Though I can't help but wonder if there was plans for him within the original specs for the potp line.

News Credits: 70 · by **carytheone** » Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:48 am

I'm really feeling Dead End/No Outlet Punch/Counterpunch.

Not so sure about Repugnus and his full diaper alt mode. But gotta complete the set :BANG_HEAD:

News Credits: 11 · by **mordhelm** » Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:49 am

About the only thing I can see for remold/reuse is that it uses the Breakdown/Wheeljack wheels. Otherwise I cannot pinpoint any old mold use. That is shocking for a Special Edition.

by **gothsaurus** » Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:52 am

Agreed. I think many of us are still puzzling over how to complete our half-finished gestalts after these reveals.

And seeing Wreck Gar against all those bright colors, I can't see attaching him to anything we have so far. Best to just set him aside till I can make a custom out of all Junkions. :-(

BUT I do have a lot of hope for finishing out combiners. The new line is supposed to be cybertronian alt modes, and that's exactly what the femmebots are. I could also see the rainmaker tetrajets being limbs for Starscream. Mind you, trying to work out that transformation accurately AND working around a big combiner port violate the laws of physics. :-(

Still wondering about Sideswipe. He seems to be the only missing first year car. Still holding out hope for him, Hoist, Cliffjumper, Huffer, a silver Bluestreak...

Some wet blanket will no doubt respond and say how it's not going to happen, but I can still hope. :michaelbay:

Putting my fingers in my ears and sending mind waves to Hasbro.

News Credits: 4 · by **Munkky** » Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:55 am

Surprised that Punch-Counterpunch is an original mould, I may actually try getting one now. The robot modes don't impress me that much, but I like the vehicle mode. Hopefully it's out on time for TFNation and I can get one there.
I've been contemplating getting Repugnus for a while, because Twinferno is still quite common at brick-and-mortar in my region and it looks like getting Grotusque won't be as hard as I thought, but I have no personal attachment to the Monsterbots, so I don't know if I should really bother.

News Credits: 1 · by **Wireless_Phantom** » Tue Jul 10, 2018 10:02 am

I'm really looking forward to both of these. Also is it just me or does the Counter-Punch mode remind anyone else of alternators Tracks?

News Credits: 11 · by **Carnivius_Prime** » Tue Jul 10, 2018 10:05 am

Eh. Repugnus looks pure ugly crud in both forms (one of the worst looking TF's I've ever seen). Punch looks nice in car mode but neither robot mode does it for me (but I never liked the original toy/character(s)) but hey it's not another silly combiner limb retool so there's that. And I kinda like how they even bother to switch hand colours too though still an easy pass on both of these.

But yeah, starting to really scrape the bottom of the G1 barrel at this point.

News Credits: 1 · by **Wireless_Phantom** » Tue Jul 10, 2018 10:07 am

I'm glad that Punch/Counter-Punch exists as a mold. Based on his design he looks like he could be the basis of a lot of other figures. Also is it just me or does his car mode remind anyone else of a movie figure?

News Credits: 1 · by **starrhero** » Tue Jul 10, 2018 10:11 am

Wireless_Phantom wrote:I'm glad that Punch/Counter-Punch exists as a mold. Based on his design he looks like he could be the basis of a lot of other figures. Also is it just me or does his car mode remind anyone else of a movie figure?

I was debating whether or not to mention it, but, yes. I feel like I've seen that vehicle mode before on some other figure.

I can see some similarities with movie Drift, but it isn't accurate. I feel like this isn't a new mold, it feels as if I've had this figure before & transformed it into its car mode.

Wonder if it is based on a movie figure, or maybe even some other figure.

News Credits: 1 · by **Amelie** » Tue Jul 10, 2018 10:14 am

Punch\Counter-Punch reminds me of Pointblack when in Decepticon mode and (perhaps strangely) Nightbeat when in Autobot mode.

Certainly looks like the toy was intended to be two different characters with the same alt-mode at some point, with Punch\Counter-Punch being the 'bonus' figure.

Anyway - its pretty awesome. I'm sad I'll have to miss him.

by **Skritz** » Tue Jul 10, 2018 10:27 am

Okay, where in the HELL did this Punch/Counterpunch mold come from? It vaguely looks like an impossibly heavily retooled Titans Return Hot Rod. Oh man, why is this thing going to be impossible to obtain. :-(

News Credits: 1864 · by **william-james88** » Tue Jul 10, 2018 10:30 am

Cobotron wrote:Edit: Where do you guys think the TM rides in Bug-Monster mode? The head? The chest?

Chest for sure. The part I find amazing is how the bug hands and arms become he chest pieces in robot mode. That is GENIUS!

mordhelm wrote:About the only thing I can see for remold/reuse is that it uses the Breakdown/Wheeljack wheels. Otherwise I cannot pinpoint any old mold use. That is shocking for a Special Edition.

We have had new molds be exclusives in the past. I know the RID line was ignored by many fans but the fully original mold of Legion Megatronus (shown below) was a special exclusive and never reused:

gothsaurus wrote:but I can still hope.

Hope is just undiscovered dissapoitment. How wet is that blanket? :twisted:

Amelie wrote:Punch\Counter-Punch reminds me of Pointblack when in Decepticon mode and (perhaps strangely) Nightbeat when in Autobot mode.

Certainly looks like the toy was intended to be two different characters with the same alt-mode at some point, with Punch\Counter-Punch being the 'bonus' figure.

Anyway - its pretty awesome. I'm sad I'll have to miss him.

I thought of Nightbeat right away as well. My first though was, "wouldnt he be representing Thrilling 30 rather than POTP". Anyways, this toy will be available on Amazon so almost anyone in the world could get it, why do you think you will miss him?

by **Skritz** » Tue Jul 10, 2018 10:38 am

Am I the only one seeing the heavily retooled Hot Rod in Punch/Counterpunch?

News Credits: 4 · by **Relic0037** » Tue Jul 10, 2018 10:38 am

Punch/Counterpunch looks great. I'm glad they focused more on getting his Autobot & Decepticon robot modes right than trying to force him into the current combiner gimmick. As for the other guy.....he looks OK. At least now I can have a third full sized Monsterbot to replace that miniature stand in I have on my shelf right now.

News Credits: 11 · by **Carnivius_Prime** » Tue Jul 10, 2018 10:40 am

william-james88 wrote:
Cobotron wrote:Edit: Where do you guys think the TM rides in Bug-Monster mode? The head? The chest?

Chest for sure. The part I find amazing is how the bug hands and arms become he chest pieces in robot mode. That is GENIUS!

How is it genius? I thought the original toy did that but had much less hollow looking bug arms.

News Credits: 1 · by **Amelie** » Tue Jul 10, 2018 10:40 am

william-james88 wrote:Anyways, this toy will be available on Amazon so almost anyone in the world could get it, why do you think you will miss him?

I currently live on a knife-edge student loan and have to pick\choose my figures wisely. When I see the preorder, I can balance it up, but all I keep seeing in my minds eye is that shiny,shiny MP Prime V3 on the horizon... :BOOM:

by **NTESHFT** » Tue Jul 10, 2018 10:43 am

william-james88 wrote:
Cobotron wrote:Edit: Where do you guys think the TM rides in Bug-Monster mode? The head? The chest?

Chest for sure. The part I find amazing is how the bug hands and arms become he chest pieces in robot mode. That is GENIUS!

mordhelm wrote:About the only thing I can see for remold/reuse is that it uses the Breakdown/Wheeljack wheels. Otherwise I cannot pinpoint any old mold use. That is shocking for a Special Edition.

We have had new molds be exclusives in the past. I know the RID line was ignored by many fans but the fully original mold of Legion Megatronus (shown below) was a special exclusive and never reused:

gothsaurus wrote:but I can still hope.

Hope is just undiscovered dissapoitment. How wet is that blanket?

Amelie wrote:Punch\Counter-Punch reminds me of Pointblack when in Decepticon mode and (perhaps strangely) Nightbeat when in Autobot mode.

Certainly looks like the toy was intended to be two different characters with the same alt-mode at some point, with Punch\Counter-Punch being the 'bonus' figure.

Anyway - its pretty awesome. I'm sad I'll have to miss him.

I thought of Nightbeat right away as well. My first though was, "wouldnt he be representing Thrilling 30 rather than POTP". Anyways, this toy will be available on Amazon so almost anyone in the world could get it, why do you think you will miss him?

I thought of Nightbeat when I saw it too....he looks great..in fact I want both.

So these are still Amazon exclusives? Are they together or gonna be separate? The box art tells me they will be together...

News Credits: 1864 · by **william-james88** » Tue Jul 10, 2018 10:45 am

NTESHFT wrote:I thought of Nightbeat when I saw it too....he looks great..in fact I want both.

So these are still Amazon exclusives? Are they together or gonna be separate? The box art tells me they will be together...

Seperate, the box art just shows the 2 robot modes he can have

News Credits: 170 · by **Mindmaster** » Tue Jul 10, 2018 10:58 am

Yeah, I’m going to need that Punch/Counterpunch. Sucks because I’ll be at Fort Benning in he middle of BCT/AIT when he and Blast Off are released. :-(

Repugnus, eh. Good for those that want to complete the Monsterbots but I don’t have them nor feel the need to have them.

News Credits: 2 · by **Moonshot** » Tue Jul 10, 2018 11:09 am

WOW!!!! That Punch and Counterpunch are even more than I expected, and I had high expectations. All 3 modes look awesome and I also think a Nightbeat and Pointblank repaint could work. Plus he isnt comprimised by some gimmick jammed into him. So excited to have a chance to finally get a good modern Punch/CP. Been using my old G1 figure as stand-in for my CHUG/Generations collection forever. Its one of only 3 G1 figures I have left from childhood( Punch/CP, Hot Rod and Gnaw, if anyone was curious) and one of my very top fav Transformer characters. Even though he was only shown a couple mins in Rebirth, I thought he was cool as a kid. Then later I got to watch TF: Headmasters and loved all the Punchingness it had. Another great thing I had said I wanted in this new figure was for him to have his Headmaster head/face styles, and he does! Really hope I dont miss him at retail, cant afford aftermarket prices. If u cant tell I am pumped, :DANCE:

EDIT: Oh also good luck Mindmaster. I did my basic at Fort Benning as well back in 2003.

by **NTESHFT** » Tue Jul 10, 2018 11:19 am

william-james88 wrote:
NTESHFT wrote:I thought of Nightbeat when I saw it too....he looks great..in fact I want both.

So these are still Amazon exclusives? Are they together or gonna be separate? The box art tells me they will be together...

Seperate, the box art just shows the 2 robot modes he can have

Oh, I see. I was looking at the art wrong all together. I was thinking it was Punch and Repugnus together. That's what happens when I get over excited....

News Credits: 11 · by **Carnivius_Prime** » Tue Jul 10, 2018 11:21 am

Still can't see anyone fooling for Punch/Counterpunch's disguise though. I mean he still looks so similar in both modes I'd at least think he was the 'brother' of his other self like Sunstreaker and Sideswipe. Animated Shockwave did a little better but still think the best at that whole concept I can think of was G1 Doubledealer by having totally different modes for Bot and Con (just still stuck with the same general colour scheme with a fair bit more purple in Con birdy form due to the wings).