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Wireless_Phantom wrote:I'm glad that Punch/Counter-Punch exists as a mold. Based on his design he looks like he could be the basis of a lot of other figures. Also is it just me or does his car mode remind anyone else of a movie figure?

I was debating whether or not to mention it, but, yes. I feel like I've seen that vehicle mode before on some other figure.

I can see some similarities with movie Drift, but it isn't accurate. I feel like this isn't a new mold, it feels as if I've had this figure before & transformed it into its car mode.

Wonder if it is based on a movie figure, or maybe even some other figure.

Punch\Counter-Punch reminds me of Pointblack when in Decepticon mode and (perhaps strangely) Nightbeat when in Autobot mode.

Certainly looks like the toy was intended to be two different characters with the same alt-mode at some point, with Punch\Counter-Punch being the 'bonus' figure.

Anyway - its pretty awesome. I'm sad I'll have to miss him.

Okay, where in the HELL did this Punch/Counterpunch mold come from? It vaguely looks like an impossibly heavily retooled Titans Return Hot Rod. Oh man, why is this thing going to be impossible to obtain.

Cobotron wrote:Edit: Where do you guys think the TM rides in Bug-Monster mode? The head? The chest?

Chest for sure. The part I find amazing is how the bug hands and arms become he chest pieces in robot mode. That is GENIUS!

mordhelm wrote:About the only thing I can see for remold/reuse is that it uses the Breakdown/Wheeljack wheels. Otherwise I cannot pinpoint any old mold use. That is shocking for a Special Edition.

We have had new molds be exclusives in the past. I know the RID line was ignored by many fans but the fully original mold of Legion Megatronus (shown below) was a special exclusive and never reused:

gothsaurus wrote:but I can still hope.

Hope is just undiscovered dissapoitment. How wet is that blanket?

Amelie wrote:Punch\Counter-Punch reminds me of Pointblack when in Decepticon mode and (perhaps strangely) Nightbeat when in Autobot mode.

Certainly looks like the toy was intended to be two different characters with the same alt-mode at some point, with Punch\Counter-Punch being the 'bonus' figure.

Anyway - its pretty awesome. I'm sad I'll have to miss him.

I thought of Nightbeat right away as well. My first though was, "wouldnt he be representing Thrilling 30 rather than POTP". Anyways, this toy will be available on Amazon so almost anyone in the world could get it, why do you think you will miss him?

Am I the only one seeing the heavily retooled Hot Rod in Punch/Counterpunch?

Punch/Counterpunch looks great. I'm glad they focused more on getting his Autobot & Decepticon robot modes right than trying to force him into the current combiner gimmick. As for the other guy.....he looks OK. At least now I can have a third full sized Monsterbot to replace that miniature stand in I have on my shelf right now.

william-james88 wrote:

Cobotron wrote:Edit: Where do you guys think the TM rides in Bug-Monster mode? The head? The chest?

Chest for sure. The part I find amazing is how the bug hands and arms become he chest pieces in robot mode. That is GENIUS!

How is it genius? I thought the original toy did that but had much less hollow looking bug arms.

william-james88 wrote:Anyways, this toy will be available on Amazon so almost anyone in the world could get it, why do you think you will miss him?

I currently live on a knife-edge student loan and have to pick\choose my figures wisely. When I see the preorder, I can balance it up, but all I keep seeing in my minds eye is that shiny,shiny MP Prime V3 on the horizon...

william-james88 wrote:

Cobotron wrote:Edit: Where do you guys think the TM rides in Bug-Monster mode? The head? The chest?

Chest for sure. The part I find amazing is how the bug hands and arms become he chest pieces in robot mode. That is GENIUS!

mordhelm wrote:About the only thing I can see for remold/reuse is that it uses the Breakdown/Wheeljack wheels. Otherwise I cannot pinpoint any old mold use. That is shocking for a Special Edition.

We have had new molds be exclusives in the past. I know the RID line was ignored by many fans but the fully original mold of Legion Megatronus (shown below) was a special exclusive and never reused:

gothsaurus wrote:but I can still hope.

Hope is just undiscovered dissapoitment. How wet is that blanket?

Amelie wrote:Punch\Counter-Punch reminds me of Pointblack when in Decepticon mode and (perhaps strangely) Nightbeat when in Autobot mode.

Certainly looks like the toy was intended to be two different characters with the same alt-mode at some point, with Punch\Counter-Punch being the 'bonus' figure.

Anyway - its pretty awesome. I'm sad I'll have to miss him.

I thought of Nightbeat right away as well. My first though was, "wouldnt he be representing Thrilling 30 rather than POTP". Anyways, this toy will be available on Amazon so almost anyone in the world could get it, why do you think you will miss him?

I thought of Nightbeat when I saw it too....he looks great..in fact I want both.

So these are still Amazon exclusives? Are they together or gonna be separate? The box art tells me they will be together...

NTESHFT wrote:I thought of Nightbeat when I saw it too....he looks great..in fact I want both.

So these are still Amazon exclusives? Are they together or gonna be separate? The box art tells me they will be together...

Seperate, the box art just shows the 2 robot modes he can have

Yeah, I’m going to need that Punch/Counterpunch. Sucks because I’ll be at Fort Benning in he middle of BCT/AIT when he and Blast Off are released.

Repugnus, eh. Good for those that want to complete the Monsterbots but I don’t have them nor feel the need to have them.

WOW!!!! That Punch and Counterpunch are even more than I expected, and I had high expectations. All 3 modes look awesome and I also think a Nightbeat and Pointblank repaint could work. Plus he isnt comprimised by some gimmick jammed into him. So excited to have a chance to finally get a good modern Punch/CP. Been using my old G1 figure as stand-in for my CHUG/Generations collection forever. Its one of only 3 G1 figures I have left from childhood( Punch/CP, Hot Rod and Gnaw, if anyone was curious) and one of my very top fav Transformer characters. Even though he was only shown a couple mins in Rebirth, I thought he was cool as a kid. Then later I got to watch TF: Headmasters and loved all the Punchingness it had. Another great thing I had said I wanted in this new figure was for him to have his Headmaster head/face styles, and he does! Really hope I dont miss him at retail, cant afford aftermarket prices. If u cant tell I am pumped,

EDIT: Oh also good luck Mindmaster. I did my basic at Fort Benning as well back in 2003.

william-james88 wrote:

NTESHFT wrote:I thought of Nightbeat when I saw it too....he looks great..in fact I want both.

So these are still Amazon exclusives? Are they together or gonna be separate? The box art tells me they will be together...

Seperate, the box art just shows the 2 robot modes he can have

Oh, I see. I was looking at the art wrong all together. I was thinking it was Punch and Repugnus together. That's what happens when I get over excited....

Still can't see anyone fooling for Punch/Counterpunch's disguise though. I mean he still looks so similar in both modes I'd at least think he was the 'brother' of his other self like Sunstreaker and Sideswipe. Animated Shockwave did a little better but still think the best at that whole concept I can think of was G1 Doubledealer by having totally different modes for Bot and Con (just still stuck with the same general colour scheme with a fair bit more purple in Con birdy form due to the wings).

Gimmie gimmie gimmie GIMMIE!!!

Carnivius_Prime wrote:Still can't see anyone fooling for Punch/Counterpunch's disguise though.

Pro: That punch/counterpunch is the best looking figure I have seen from Hasbro since before Combiner Wars.
Con: It's so good it's gonna sell out everywhere and be impossible to find.

Skritz wrote:Am I the only one seeing the heavily retooled Hot Rod in Punch/Counterpunch?

I'm pretty sure you are the only one. This appears to me to be a completely new mold. The robot mode is basically the same for both bot and con with just the arms/shoulders reconfigured, so all the rest of the car kibble has to tuck into the legs or the torso. The middle of the torso is where the head is stored for car mode. The middle parts of the hood have to fold up and tuck into the area where the head is stored. The whole back half of the car plus the roof and windshield become the legs.

This is nothing like TR Hot Rod or anything else Generations I have seen yet over the past 10 years. I don't collect the other lines, so I couldn't say if either of those lines touches on something similar.

Punch/Counterpunch only comes with one gun? EPIC FAIL HASBLOW!!!!!!! Seriously though that looks really awesome! They took the original toy design and really tweaked it!

Blitzwing is bae wrote:In my opinion I think they both look really good and will be worth picking up, however, wheres the paint on rupugnus's head! and also, wher do the little prime masters or whatever go

From what I can tell, the insignias on both sides flip down and would reveal a peg similar to all of our other PotP deluxes for "Prime armor slots." Not sure why that would be the case though seeing as how he doesn't have a reason for the "armor."

Also, is that the Prima exclusive he comes with?

o.supreme wrote:

Carnivius_Prime wrote:Still can't see anyone fooling for Punch/Counterpunch's disguise though.

Yeah but Transformers are robots and I would assume have superior recognition skills than still human folk. But then G1 TF's probably have lousy eyesight even just so that Reflector isn't totally useless.

Anyways i think i'm done in here. Enjoy your toys, folks. I'll pop back in if they ever decide to update obscure G1 characters I actually would care about seeing new toys of such as Carnivac and Catilla. Byes.

hausjam wrote:Pro: That punch/counterpunch is the best looking figure I have seen from Hasbro since before Combiner Wars.
Con: It's so good it's gonna sell out everywhere and be impossible to find.

It is an amazon exclusive, so it will be very easy to find. Anyone with internet and an adress can get him. Just check back on this site and we will let you know when it becomes available.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

Skritz wrote:Am I the only one seeing the heavily retooled Hot Rod in Punch/Counterpunch?

I'm pretty sure you are the only one. This appears to me to be a completely new mold.

Its clearly a dead end retool, as has been every single toy sice combine wars

unicron1200 wrote:Also, is that the Prima exclusive he comes with?

It appears to be

Looks like Repungus eyes are painted...but in a yellow-green that blends with the rest of the head.

But hey I'll switch his head for the TR one and give this guy's head to someone else.