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[Rodimus Prime]

Definitely not worth that price. This thing is nowhere near as awesome as Metroplex or Trypticon & has no business being priced in the same category. It's big in combined mode, that's the only thing it has going for it.

I will definitely wait for Ollie's on this one. $50 - $60 is the right price for this unimpressive piece of ****.

If it's an unimpressive piece of ****, then shouldn't it be worth nothing to you? Do you regularly drop $50-60 on pieces of ****?

[ZeroWolf]

I wonder if symths will be the only UK retail to sell it, if at all. Despite misgivings about beast modes, he himself looks like a fun beast to play with.

[Rodimus Knight]

I'll bet it'll be an online only item at target.

[SpikeyTigertron]

I do hope that Target either gets him in adds (if not preferably in stores). I feel that part of the reason the Combiner War box sets didn't do too hot, was they were rarely stocked in Brick and Mortar... the downside to that strategy is they *do* take up a lot of space. I still couldn't believe Target put the Star wars Black 6" scale tie-fighters on the shelf...

I still think Predaking will be just as good, of not better, than Devastator. Though part of me is curious what "would have been" if Takara could go ham with their preferred release (like the extra mile they did for Devastator).

[SpikeyTigertron]

Whether Torox (ne Tantrum) is a buffalo or a bull doesn't change the fact that neither is really what you would call a predatory animal.

Ha ha, but I always thought that they were called Predacons because the characters themselves are predators as opposed to their alt modes.

Perhaps he's gone a bit *mad* (cow) sorry.... not sorry.

[SG Roadbuster]

i'll believe it when I see it. my Target has nothing but leftover RID and TLK figures.

[YoungPrime]

I wish I could be hype for this set the way I was with Trypticon last Summer, especially since the Predacon's are my favorite combiners. But cheap way that Hasbro has handled these bots individually just keeps shouting NOPE!

Like others have stated I'll just wait for them to pop up at Ollies for 49.99. So what if they don't make anymore due to poor sales. 3P companies charging almost triple this cost aren't going through this struggle.

So Hasbro should either step up on quality (It's not just the Titan class that getting cheap on plastic) or just don't make them.

[ZeroWolf]

I do hope that Target either gets him in adds (if not preferably in stores). I feel that part of the reason the Combiner War box sets didn't do too hot, was they were rarely stocked in Brick and Mortar... the downside to that strategy is they *do* take up a lot of space. I still couldn't believe Target put the Star wars Black 6" scale tie-fighters on the shelf...

I still think Predaking will be just as good, of not better, than Devastator. Though part of me is curious what "would have been" if Takara could go ham with their preferred release (like the extra mile they did for Devastator).

Takara would have done the sword, and maybe spiked gauntlets somehow but I don't think they would have done as much to pred as they did to devy, as there they only really messed with the head and added elbows where needed.

[TF-fan kev777]

I do hope that Target either gets him in adds (if not preferably in stores). I feel that part of the reason the Combiner War box sets didn't do too hot, was they were rarely stocked in Brick and Mortar... the downside to that strategy is they *do* take up a lot of space. I still couldn't believe Target put the Star wars Black 6" scale tie-fighters on the shelf...

I still think Predaking will be just as good, of not better, than Devastator. Though part of me is curious what "would have been" if Takara could go ham with their preferred release (like the extra mile they did for Devastator).

Takara would have done the sword, and maybe spiked gauntlets somehow but I don't think they would have done as much to pred as they did to devy, as there they only really messed with the head and added elbows where needed.

The other thing to consider is I believe Devastator started as a Takara Masterpiece design that they had to scale down to fit Hasbro's pricing and parts count rules. I suspect most of the Takara added parts and features were actually part of the original plan, scrapped for Hasbro, and added back in for Takara. In this case, both companies were starting Predaking from scratch.

[ZeroWolf]

I don't know about them being meant for the masterpiece line as I think they were still a bit too simple for that plus if they were, Takara would have charged a small fortune

Young Prime@ 3p only aim at collectors hence their limited print runs and costs. They don't also don't have to worry about regulations that hasbro have to adhere to. Plus hasbro want kids to want these so they have to make sure that the price they put these at isn't too big but big enough to profit off (businesses exist for profit )

[YoungPrime]

Definitely not worth that price. This thing is nowhere near as awesome as Metroplex or Trypticon & has no business being priced in the same category. It's big in combined mode, that's the only thing it has going for it.

I will definitely wait for Ollie's on this one. $50 - $60 is the right price for this unimpressive piece of ****.

If it's an unimpressive piece of ****, then shouldn't it be worth nothing to you? Do you regularly drop $50-60 on pieces of ****?

The Beast modes and Bot modes are IMO crappy. So paying 1/3 for 1/3 of what this set can do is fair.

[Sabrblade]

Oh, no, Shogo Hasui confirmed that his design for Titan class Devastator was taken from a design for a MP Devastator he had cooked up, but which he had to modify to be more in line with Hasbro's budget limitations, and then was able to work back in some of his original design aspects for the Takara UW release.

[YoungPrime]

I don't know about them being meant for the masterpiece line as I think they were still a bit too simple for that plus if they were, Takara would have charged a small fortune

Young Prime@ 3p only aim at collectors hence their limited print runs and costs. They don't also don't have to worry about regulations that hasbro have to adhere to. Plus hasbro want kids to want these so they have to make sure that the price they put these at isn't too big but big enough to profit off (businesses exist for profit )

Don't see how that changes my complaints with the main issue here but thanks for 3P tour guide.

[o.supreme]

So, no confirmation if Target will actually have Predaking in-store, or if it will be online only? For the record, they had CW Devastator available for the longest time, long after even most online retailers had sold out. For the record, they still have Victoron, Computron, and G2 Bruticus available online.

Honestly, I'm excited for Predaking, but the advantage of having the last 2 Titans at TRU was putting them on layaway. Target doesn't have that feature online or in store, so I guess I'll have to wait to see if it goes on sale at some point around the end of the year.

[Hellscream9999]

So, no confirmation if Target will actually have Predaking in-store, or if it will be online only? For the record, they had CW Devastator available for the longest time, long after even most online retailers had sold out. For the record, they still have Victoron, Computron, and G2 Bruticus available online.

To clarify, that is an in-store listing for him (and while this is all subject to change, as of right now, it's looking like something every store is gonna get in some capacity), I'd guess he'll start to show up sometime after the e-tailers get him like bbts and such, simply because it has to filter out through the warehouses to the stores.

[SpikeyTigertron]

Oh, no, Shogo Hasui confirmed that his design for Titan class Devastator was taken from a design for a MP Devastator he had cooked up, but which he had to modify to be more in line with Hasbro's budget limitations, and then was able to work back in some of his original design aspects for the Takara UW release.

I'd always kind of felt that way tbh.... I mean other than plastic quality and a little more polish... they're somewhat in line with say MP Sideswipe, and the scale is definitely MP. (though it's a shame what happened to Long Haul).

[Sabrblade]

Oh, no, Shogo Hasui confirmed that his design for Titan class Devastator was taken from a design for a MP Devastator he had cooked up, but which he had to modify to be more in line with Hasbro's budget limitations, and then was able to work back in some of his original design aspects for the Takara UW release.

I'd always kind of felt that way tbh.... I mean other than plastic quality and a little more polish... they're somewhat in line with say MP Sideswipe, and the scale is definitely MP. (though it's a shame what happened to Long Haul).

I honestly don't mind what happened to Long Haul that much since A) it was necessary for feasible stability reasons, and B) because of a secret about Titan class Devastator that was revealed at RoboCon this year, but that's for a different topic. (stay tuned )

[Emerje]

and B) because of a secret about Titan class Devastator that was revealed at RoboCon this year, but that's for a different topic. (stay tuned )

Emerje

[Wolfman Jake]

Oh, no, Shogo Hasui confirmed that his design for Titan class Devastator was taken from a design for a MP Devastator he had cooked up, but which he had to modify to be more in line with Hasbro's budget limitations, and then was able to work back in some of his original design aspects for the Takara UW release.

I'd always kind of felt that way tbh.... I mean other than plastic quality and a little more polish... they're somewhat in line with say MP Sideswipe, and the scale is definitely MP. (though it's a shame what happened to Long Haul).

I honestly don't mind what happened to Long Haul that much since A) it was necessary for feasible stability reasons, and B) because of a secret about Titan class Devastator that was revealed at RoboCon this year, but that's for a different topic. (stay tuned )

Details NAO!

[Sabrblade]

Gonna try to get a full formal report with all the details (about Devastator and much more) posted by the end of this week. Keep your eyes peeled on this thread.

Anyway, about Predaking, I wonder how Razorclaw (G1 Predacon leader) in robot mode might scale in comparison to most figures of BW Megatron (Beast Era most important Predacon leader).

[Sabrblade]

Details NAO!

You want'em? I got'em! Over there.

[chuckdawg1999]

Attack Buffalo

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Let's just call it Tatanka and call it a day

Well, we can't call it both "Tatanka" and "a day", so which one should we choose to call it?

You! You! I like you!

[Wolfman Jake]

With the recent reveal of the "Throne of Primes," confirming that it will contain the rest of the Primes yet unaccounted for by retail release, is it safe to say now that this "Special Edition" Onyx Prime may well be the ONLY Onyx Prime we'll be getting at this point, despite the "Special Edition" call-out on Predaking's box?

[Jelze Bunnycat]

With the recent reveal of the "Throne of Primes," confirming that it will contain the rest of the Primes yet unaccounted for by retail release, is it safe to say now that this "Special Edition" Onyx Prime may well be the ONLY Onyx Prime we'll be getting at this point, despite the "Special Edition" call-out on Predaking's box?

Could very well be. Him not being based on a Pretender, instead on the Binder of Revelation, may mean he has no Shell, thus eliminating him from regular retail altogether.

[ZeroWolf]

The special edition moniker may have cone from when an onyx prime was supposed to be included as a regular release but was too late to change when the regular release was scrapped.