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I loved it. They did a good job of building drama about the whereabouts and condition of the Autobots. The shot of Optimus under the rubble was fantastic. And what about Ratchet? Is he dead? They left that pretty ambiguous.

The shots of the burning rubble, Darkmount, Megatron sitting on a throne and a decimated Jasper, NV reminded me of Earth in the Regeneration 1 comic. Pretty heavy imagery for a kids show.

Other highlights were Arachnid being recovered from the wreckage of the Autotbot base and the recovery of the Forge of Solis Prime and the Apex Armor. They've been foreshadowing Arachnid's return for awhile. Looking forward to it.

I had no problem with the Shockwave ending and the lack of Predacons. They have to show the consequences from last season's finale and build some drama before pivoting in a new direction. Besides, Shockwave is the one who finds the Predicons according to the teaser shown at NYCC. It only makes sense to bring him in first.

We only EXPECT to see the Predicons out of the gate because of the toy line and the lame Beast Hunters branding in the show title. No one would be complaining if the Beast Hunters angle was a well-kept secret.

Sabrblade wrote:

Hotrodimust wrote:I already watched the first episode and ultra Magnus has a horrible voice

Dude, it's Michael freakin' Ironside!

Um ok but I don't think that voice fits him its not stern or militant enuff. But it wasn't as bad the second time I watched the episode so maybe it will grow on me.

QBKiller94 wrote:I loved it. They did a good job of building drama about the whereabouts and condition of the Autobots. The shot of Optimus under the rubble was fantastic. And what about Ratchet? Is he dead? They left that pretty ambiguous.

The shots of the burning rubble, Darkmount, Megatron sitting on a throne and a decimated Jasper, NV reminded me of Earth in the Regeneration 1 comic. Pretty heavy imagery for a kids show.

Other highlights were Arachnid being recovered from the wreckage of the Autotbot base and the recovery of the Forge of Solis Prime and the Apex Armor. They've been foreshadowing Arachnid's return for awhile. Looking forward to it.

I had no problem with the Shockwave ending and the lack of Predacons. They have to show the consequences from last season's finale and build some drama before pivoting in a new direction. Besides, Shockwave is the one who finds the Predicons according to the teaser shown at NYCC. It only makes sense to bring him in first.

We only EXPECT to see the Predicons out of the gate because of the toy line and the lame Beast Hunters branding in the show title. No one would be complaining if the Beast Hunters angle was a well-kept secret.

They only show predakings next episode and only in dragon mode

They only show predakings next episode and only in dragon mode

A good reason people might not be in this thread is because they are afraid of spoilers.

Ahem.

How about mentioning in the thread that there will be no spoilers or "HEY SPOILER COMING!" so that we don't walk into grenades like this one.

Seibertron wrote:Was the "Battle for the Spark" imprint used in Beast Machines? I don't recall it ever being used for the TV show.

Indeed it was. Though, it's quite saddening that the DVDs didn't recycle its opening.

I remember my grade school self getting very giddy upon seeing the opening credits have Garry Chalk say the words "Beast Machines! Battle for the Spark!(-ark!)(-ark!)" when the new logo popped up the end of the opening for the first time. The subitle appeared in a horizontal lighting effect spread from center outward. They also added a verbal "Transformers" spoken by Chalk right at the very beginning where the camera zoomed in on Cybertron, but nothing else was changed beyond those two additions.

Although, the only thing I do not remember about the "Battle for the Spark" opening was in which episode it was first used. I don't believe it was first used in the first episode of season 2 (14, "Fallout"), so I'm leaning toward the "Sparkwar" three-parter as being where it may have debuted. I'm fairly certain it was used all the way to the last episode, though.

I also recall a Fox Kids sweepstakes commercial referring to the show by that full subline imprint name (with their also offering Rattrap and Blast Punch Optimus Primal toys to 1000 others who didn't win the grand prize of whatever it was they were offering). The commercial was speaking of the show first before talking about the contest, so it did say "Beast Machines: Battle for the Spark" in reference to the show.

The first lines of this commercial when something like "Beast Machines: Battle for the Spark continues!..." which sounds to me a bit like it aired shortly after the final episode or something, though it is still possible for it to have aired before episode 26 aired. Either way, it must have been circa late-2000/early-2001, after the end of season 1 and before RiD's debut.

I keep this stuff in memory because loved loved LOVED Fox Kids to death as a child and cherish all that I remember of it.

Just Negare wrote:Happy to see Shockwave. Hopefully he's a logical monster in this rendition.

You did see episode 43, right?

Just Negare wrote:I'm defintely in agreement that the Preds should have at least been alluded to in the first episode, I hope they don't become just a footnote to some "Arcee and her pet human" show.

Don't worry.

Then again, not sure if that's even really a spoiler.

Just relax and give the writers their time. I'll wait and see what they build up to.

Sooo...when do they get that spikey cr*p all over themselves?

gbm wrote:Sooo...when do they get that spikey cr*p all over themselves?

Who says they ever do?

And, no, I'm not speaking from having seen all three episodes. I mean that as a general question.

Sabrblade wrote:

gbm wrote:Sooo...when do they get that spikey cr*p all over themselves?

Who says they ever do?

And, no, I'm not speaking from having seen all three episodes. I mean that as a general question.

oh man, I just assumed they would given the new toy line. I hope so, I bought me a BH Optimus already! lol

I don't like having figures that don't make a screen appearance.

gbm wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

gbm wrote:Sooo...when do they get that spikey cr*p all over themselves?

Who says they ever do?

And, no, I'm not speaking from having seen all three episodes. I mean that as a general question.

oh man, I just assumed they would given the new toy line. I hope so, I bought me a BH Optimus already! lol

I don't like having figures that don't make a screen appearance.

I mean, we already saw Bumblebee sporting a new non-toy black color scheme, which his BH toys looks nothing like. So, who's to say that these toy designs will appear in the show?

I could see Optimus getting his though, since we saw him in very bad shape. But it's too early to tell.

Sabrblade wrote:

gbm wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

gbm wrote:Sooo...when do they get that spikey cr*p all over themselves?

Who says they ever do?

And, no, I'm not speaking from having seen all three episodes. I mean that as a general question.

oh man, I just assumed they would given the new toy line. I hope so, I bought me a BH Optimus already! lol

I don't like having figures that don't make a screen appearance.

I mean, we already saw Bumblebee sporting a new non-toy black color scheme, which his BH toys looks nothing like. So, who's to say that these toy designs will appear in the show?

I could see Optimus getting his though, since we saw him in very bad shape. But it's too early to tell.

Good point.

wait for it wrote:

They only show predakings next episode and only in dragon mode

A good reason people might not be in this thread is because they are afraid of spoilers.

Ahem.

How about mentioning in the thread that there will be no spoilers or "HEY SPOILER COMING!" so that we don't walk into grenades like this one.

It's not really a spoiler because they show him in trailers and the first 3 episodes are all over YouTube.

Hotrodimust wrote:

wait for it wrote:

They only show predakings next episode and only in dragon mode

A good reason people might not be in this thread is because they are afraid of spoilers.

Ahem.

How about mentioning in the thread that there will be no spoilers or "HEY SPOILER COMING!" so that we don't walk into grenades like this one.

It's not really a spoiler because they show him in trailers and the first 3 episodes are all over YouTube.

It is a spoiler when several people refuse to watch subpar fuzzy quality videos with terrible out of sync freaky audio and prefer to watch the show in HD quality.

It's also a spoiler to say "only Predaking" shows and "only in dragon mode" when the trailers do not reveal whether or not he appears alone or if he transforms. WE know he's alone and doesn't transform becuase WE saw the episodes, but THEY don't know that because THEY haven't seen them since THEY prefer HD quality. THAT is why it is a spoiler.

Posting this here as well in case others missed it.

Last Friday, instead of a new episode of Transformers: Prime Beast Hunters, we were treated to an encore presentation of episode 53 as a part of a special event titled "The Autobits Edition". The episode was filled with several behind-the-scenes trivia and tidbits, as well as some in-jokes and episode commentary, which I've taken the time to write down for those who missed out on the episode.

* Back on Cybertron, Wheeljack was part of the combat unit the Wreckers.

* The citadel is 5.5 miles tall or roughly 1660 average-sized Autobots standing on each other's shoulders.

* Perhaps Starscream has a degree in Creative Writing from Cybertron Tech.

* Voice-over artist Frank Welker first played Megatron in the original 1984 series. He also voiced the original versions of Soundwave and Laserbeak.

* A Phase Shifter comes in really handy when you get locked out of your house... or cave.

* Smokescreen was once a guard for Alpha Trion, father-figure to Optimus Prime.

* Tanks.

* You're welcome.

* Megatron's really happy about his new citadel. Must have a hot oil tub.

* The speed of light is 670.616.629 miles per hour. This seems to be going a tad bit slower. -- [speaking in regards to the speed of Darkmount's fusion cannon's stream of energy it fired at the U.S. military]

* Jasper is a fictional town in Nevada.

* No real towns were destroyed in the making of this TV show.

* Robots rarely need to sit down, but when they do they prefer a big throne.

* Knock Out must be getting faster at replacing Decepticon arms. It took him an entire episode to replace Starscream's in season one.

* It's really hard to register sarcasm over the phone.

* Little known fact: Internet cat videos bring out the best in Megatron.

* Megatron enjoys backing up words with actions. Usually of the painful variety.

* Meteor showers make good cover stories. A single meteor can unleash enough energy to shatter windows.

* A load of horse pucky currently sells for about $1.20 a pound online. Plus shipping.

* Soundwave is the go-to Con for intercepting cellphone signals. He also picks up over 200 channels of commercial-free radio.

* Bumblebee and Raf became instant friends on season one. In part because Raf is the only human who understands Bee's beeps.

* But it's the clear coat that really makes him shine. -- [speaking in regards to Raf's comment about Bee's new paint job fooling enemy scanners]

* Frank Welker records actual words written for Bumblebee which are later replaced with sound effects.

* The Rocky Mountains stretch from just south of Alaska to New Mexico, covering almost 3000 miles.

* This is why it's important to wear your seatbelt. You never know when your Cybertronian SUV is going to stop suddenly.

* In Europe, Autobots drive on the other side of the road.

* Chicks dig scars -- [speaking in regards to Starscream scraping the captured Wheeljack across the chest]

* Knock Out is one of the few senior Decepticons to take an automotive form on Earth.

* Smokescreen first arrived on Earth in a stole Decepticon escape pod.

* Smokescreen has a tendency to ignore orders. Lucky for Optimus he did this time, too.

* He means "borrow". -- [speaking in regards to Smokescreen snagging up the Phase Shifter back on Cybertron]

* Across all Transformers series, comics, and movies, Optimus has been mortally wounded 16 times.

* In general, Transformers don't have a concept of gender. Arcee is one of the few female exceptions.

* In the original 1984 series, Soundwave took the form of a cassette player.

* Laserbeak was a cassette tape that popped out of Soundwave's chest.

* Arcee has the ability to project a holographic 'rider' when Jack's not on board.

* Whew, that was close. -- [referring to Jack dodging the fallen signal tower]

* This is one trailer that Optimus is never going to tow -- [because the Cons wrecked it]

* Worst. Riddle. Ever.

* Vehicons come in several varieties. These guys transformed from Cybertronian jets. It might be a good time to change back.

* So we're all aware that this is Jack's fault, right?

* This is Cybertron. It's the original home planet of the Autobots and the Decepticons. It used to look a lot nicer than this.

* The Apex Armor is one of the relics of the Thirteen Original Primes. While wearing it a Transformer is nearly indestructible.

* The AllSpark is the mystical energy that gives all Autobots and Decepticons life.

* A spacebridge allows Decepticons to travel between two points in space. Ratchet developed the scaled-down GroundBridge for Autobot use on Earth.

* Enter Shockwave.

* He is definitely not a good guy.

Sabrblade wrote:

Hotrodimust wrote:

wait for it wrote:

They only show predakings next episode and only in dragon mode

A good reason people might not be in this thread is because they are afraid of spoilers.

Ahem.

How about mentioning in the thread that there will be no spoilers or "HEY SPOILER COMING!" so that we don't walk into grenades like this one.

It's not really a spoiler because they show him in trailers and the first 3 episodes are all over YouTube.

It is a spoiler when several people refuse to watch subpar fuzzy quality videos with terrible out of sync freaky audio and prefer to watch the show in HD quality.

It's also a spoiler to say "only Predaking" shows and "only in dragon mode" when the trailers do not reveal whether or not he appears alone or if he transforms. WE know he's alone and doesn't transform becuase WE saw the episodes, but THEY don't know that because THEY haven't seen them since THEY prefer HD quality. THAT is why it is a spoiler.

The videos I watched were in HD and saying predakings was only in dragon mode isn't a spoiler. Every trailer showed him its more of a disappointment more than anything

Hotrodimust wrote:The videos I watched were in HD

That's impossible. At the time that you first wrote this, episode 54 hadn't even aired in the U.S. yet, and no HD uploads of the episode even existed on YouTube. You couldn't have seen it in HD at the time because there were none. You simply must be mistaken.

Hotrodimust wrote:and saying predakings was only in dragon mode isn't a spoiler. Every trailer showed him its more of a disappointment more than anything

A trailer showing him a beast mode isn't the same thing as the trailer saying he doesn't transform.

Way back before the show aired, we saw a glimpse of Ratchet in a trailer for episode 1, but the trailer only showed him in robot mode, whereas the episode itself had him in vehicle mode in some parts of it as well. The trailer didn't say either way if he did or didn't transform in the episode, and it just so happens that he did.

You can't judge whether or not a character transforms in an episode from just seeing a trailer if the trailer doesn't spell it out either way. The trailers for Predaking's debut were ambiguous on the matter, only showing him in one mode just like the episode 1 trailer did for Ratchet. As it turned out, Predaking's case was just the opposite, showing him in beast mode instead of in robot mode like Ratchet was. But both cases had them each shown in only one mode, and neither trailer specified if each would or would not transform. It took watching the actual episode in both cases for us to find that out.

As such, at the time, YOU knew something that OTHERS didn't, because, at the time, the episodes in which Predaking appeared had not aired yet, but YOU had already watched them so YOU knew while THEY didn't. The trailers offered no answer to his transforming of lack thereof, so your saying whether he did or didn't transform was, at the time, a spoiler.

It's nothing major who cares I swear when you sign up for this site you should get a free box of tissues

Hotrodimust wrote:It's nothing major

To a lot of of folks at the time, it was.

Hotrodimust wrote:who cares

Several folks did back then.

Hotrodimust wrote:I swear when you sign up for this site you should get a free box of tissues

Well, Seibertron does contain nuts.

Hotrodimust wrote:It's nothing major who cares I swear when you sign up for this site you should get a free box of tissues

It does sound like you need some.

I agree with you about the spoilers though. This is a discussion forum, if you aren't prepared for spoilers then you're deluding yourself.