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ImmortalOptimus wrote:I just don't understand all the criticism of Prime. It's dark, edgy and adult, Cullen and Welker are reprising their roles as Prime and Megs. Isn't this what adult TF fans have been wanting for a while?

Yea I dont know coz the first episode didn't really do it for me, maybe coz it was just scratching the surface, same with the second part, but the rest was really good, I was really surprised.. the action was just sick, loving the sound effects and yea, the voice acting and dialogue for the Decepticons is just awesome, any parts with Optimus and Megs tottaly reminds me of why I am such a huge TF fan. The face on Optimus is the only wierd face so far, and thats only when his face plate is down, sooo... i'll let it go, haha.

ImmortalOptimus wrote:I just don't understand all the criticism of Prime. It's dark, edgy and adult, Cullen and Welker are reprising their roles as Prime and Megs. Isn't this what adult TF fans have been wanting for a while?

Your right, it is what some adult fans have wanted, clamoured for, complained about, whinged, whined and bitched about for ages. But it's not simply a matter of a show-by-numbers, add a table spoonful of Cullen, a pinch of Welker, those guys from the live action movie for taste, whisk vigorously until thick and creamy, done right? The recipe for a perfect Transformers series? Maybe they haven't whisked it enough, I'm not saying that I hate it and it sucks, but it just smells to me like it's been made by committee, I'm sure most shows are, but beyond the initial phase of menu style selection of production people etc, theres a creative process, and thats where a show either becomes great, average or lame, it's the same for any production of any type, comic, website, movie, tv series etc.

I guess none of us who've followed Transformers for any length of time should be surprised, the tv series' all the way back to G1 have always lacked cohesion, have been rush jobs etc, I guess the current generation of kids will look back on TF:Prime with warm thoughts as I do G1, despite it's issues us old folk have now.

Don't crucify me for having an opinion, I know I just compare G1 to TF:Prime. Don't hurt me

gigazarak wrote:

ImmortalOptimus wrote:I just don't understand all the criticism of Prime. It's dark, edgy and adult, Cullen and Welker are reprising their roles as Prime and Megs. Isn't this what adult TF fans have been wanting for a while?

Your right, it is what some adult fans have wanted, clamoured for, complained about, whinged, whined and bitched about for ages. But it's not simply a matter of a show-by-numbers, add a table spoonful of Cullen, a pinch of Welker, those guys from the live action movie for taste, whisk vigorously until thick and creamy, done right? The recipe for a perfect Transformers series? Maybe they haven't whisked it enough, I'm not saying that I hate it and it sucks, but it just smells to me like it's been made by committee, I'm sure most shows are, but beyond the initial phase of menu style selection of production people etc, theres a creative process, and thats where a show either becomes great, average or lame, it's the same for any production of any type, comic, website, movie, tv series etc.

I guess none of us who've followed Transformers for any length of time should be surprised, the tv series' all the way back to G1 have always lacked cohesion, have been rush jobs etc, I guess the current generation of kids will look back on TF:Prime with warm thoughts as I do G1, despite it's issues us old folk have now.

Don't crucify me for having an opinion, I know I just compared G1 to TF:Prime. Don't hurt me

Well its all true, but if you notice, kids shows nowadays seem to offer some strange adult humour... Spongebob Squarepants actually has some..wierd ass parts in it that some adults, i guess watching with their kids, can atleast tolerate and get some wierd entertainment out of, haha.
The strongest kid targeted element in TF: prime so far is the girl.. I forget her name. The other kids, like Raph, you actually look at him, and often all of them, and go..holy crap, this must be pretty messed up for them... like the battle in the corridor, happening around them... and when Bulkhead tells her to look away as he pretty much rips out Decepticon entrails... thats kinda dark, i mean.. Obviously the kids like, its just a machine, but it gives you insight into how Cybertronians would see that act, as somthing violent and just disturbing as hell to percieve.

That is exactly what I want to make this show more adult... fine, leave the kids in, but portraying them as actually really vunerable and scared and gettin messed up in the head (when Raph trips when the others start fighting, and goes off to cry or whatever, thats fine with me, thats making it work). So yea, I want more of that... more depth and issues... its not like good humour can't be found in turmoil and chaos, that actually makes some of the humour funny, coz its valid.

"He cut the hard line. The dishes are locked onto Cybertron."

I love how in Kurtzman and Orci's world "cut the hard line" = solution to all problems.

Movie + Animated = Epic...fail.

amtm wrote:"He cut the hard line. The dishes are locked onto Cybertron."

I love how in Kurtzman and Orci's world "cut the hard line" = solution to all problems.

Movie + Animated = Epic...fail.

Cutting the hard line in the show was actually quite appropriate a tact to disable further user interface. And in most cases dealing with local hardware, the easiest way is to cut the hard line if you want to disable flow of information, so...