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News Credits: 1 · Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:11 pm

Starscream GaGa wrote:I'm not getting this whole "Batman Wings" thing. I wasn't aware Batman had wings.

The infamous bat cape:

News Credits: 8 · Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:13 pm

shes smaller than the first edition? what the **** hasbro, the FE verison is small as it is and you make it even smaller? I knew it as soon as DOTM came out the figures are just going to continue to get smaller and smaller and the quality will probably get worse & worse. It looks like a cheap knock off compared to the FE version. This is probably why the first editions were not mass released, they're better than the ones coming out & hasbro was afraid that people would finally catch on to what they're doing. One of the few figures i was thinking about getting and it turns out to be pure crap, Thanks alot hasblow. I dont care if its "show accurate" im not paying $11 for a figure thats closer to scout class than deluxe class. And here i thought DOTM was going to be the smallest part of my collection, if this keep up TFPrime will be.

News Credits: 1452 · Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:15 pm

Still jaded that somehow now of all series we have the luxury of creating multiple deluxe versions for the same characters, while characters in recent series were clawing for scraps.

i really can't seem to see the positive of picking this one up. Money's not even tight but it feels like after a decade of Fembot scarcity, unlicensed and licensed parties have decided to make up for the lack of roboboobage.

Megatron Wolf wrote:shes smaller than the first edition? what the **** hasbro, the FE verison is small as it is and you make it even smaller?

In all actuality, the FE version is on par or even bigger than the previous incarnations of Arcee in the Movieverse and in Animated. And if you mean her body type is small, well it's better if she's slender, than chunky.

News Credits: 2 · Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:40 pm

Megatron Wolf wrote:shes smaller than the first edition? what the **** hasbro, the FE verison is small as it is and you make it even smaller? I knew it as soon as DOTM came out the figures are just going to continue to get smaller and smaller and the quality will probably get worse & worse. It looks like a cheap knock off compared to the FE version. This is probably why the first editions were not mass released, they're better than the ones coming out & hasbro was afraid that people would finally catch on to what they're doing. One of the few figures i was thinking about getting and it turns out to be pure crap, Thanks alot hasblow. I dont care if its "show accurate" im not paying $11 for a figure thats closer to scout class than deluxe class. And here i thought DOTM was going to be the smallest part of my collection, if this keep up TFPrime will be.

REALLY??? not overeacting at all here? just a tad?

FE - designed to be part of generations, for collectors market
PRID - designed for ages 4+

the average prime deluxe is close to twice the size of scout class windcharger. Ive checked with wheeljack and cliffjumper. I suggest you actually size them up in person. Its a size reduction for scale purposes among other things, its not THAT big a drop.

First Editions werent mass released because of the size of the production run and supplier demand, not a conspiracy to conceal their cost cutting and attempts to shaft the fandom by giving us substandard TOYS.

Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:55 pm

I guess both versions have their pros and cons. I love the smaller more screen accurate RID one. Arcee shouldn't be taller than Bumblebee. I'm really glad the new one has the paint detail on the arms as well, That is one of the things that bugged me the most about the FE version.

News Credits: 2 · Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:02 pm

I've got to admit, the detail on the arms impressed me. The fact you can swap in the fe blades is also pretty cool

And not to continue to stoke the PRID VS FE argument BUT I have fe cliffjumper and PRID Wheeljack in front of me. They're the same height and Wheeljack is much more solid

and I will defend the quality of PRID soundwave and Wheeljack to the bitter end. Arcee's size is for scale. I think it's brave of Hasbro to do this, but I do like it

News Credits: 11 · Sat Feb 18, 2012 12:19 am

Counterpunch wrote:Unless Takara gets the colors right on their version, this is a pass.

The FE version is a straight up better toy. Yea, Arcee has "wings" if you can call them that in the show, but if the choice is between some kibble on her arms or Batman wings? I'll take the arm kibble.

The improved scale with Bumblebee is all this has going for it and that's just a side effect of them reducing the overall size of the toys. It wasn't planned.

These are pretty much my thoughts as well. It looks really good in some ways, size for example, blue forearms, more accurate chest, etc, but it's really lacking in paint apps, and the wings are way too big. If I didn't already have the FE one I could settle for this one, but I do, so it's a pass.

Sat Feb 18, 2012 12:33 am

I will end up passing on this only because I own the FE fig. This is a much better proportioned figure, but I cant get past the backpack / kibble. FE hides it just a bit better.

Sat Feb 18, 2012 12:34 am

Sirtank wrote: Arcee shouldn't be taller than Bumblebee.

I know this is all from the show and all, but I really have absolutely no problem with FE Arcee's height, especially being taller than bee, who used to always be a tiny bot from the G1 days, as well as a lot of the comics. I find people see scale too much as a deciding factor in rank/power. I much prefer to drop size in regards to rank/ability. The only thing that I attribute to the physical characteristics of a lot of my TFs is how bulky (fat) they are in the limbs, and how that relates to their strength/resiliance to being damaged (A good example of a twisted exception is Bludgeon; all skeletal but somehow insanely powerful). It pretty much ends there, as I much rather revel in the notion that there is no one-step visual way of determining exactly where the bot stands in ability to kick another bots ass. More imagination, fellow fans. It'll free you for your scale troubles.

Side note: WFC Prime is perfect the size he is, as he plays a tough leader despite being nothing great in size. It just adds so much more dimension to my collection.

News Credits: 104 · Sat Feb 18, 2012 12:59 am

Wings = less shoulder kibble..
I have the FE Arcee and may pick this one up when I come across her.

News Credits: 9 · Sat Feb 18, 2012 4:52 am

For those complaining that PRiD is shorter: she's still too tall to be in scale in that photo.

I think it's an improvement, but it's a shame the wings are so big.

Sat Feb 18, 2012 6:58 am

DeceptiCobra wrote:Looks like she has wings!

she looks better w/ wings. makes her look more "agile" and she resembles a valkyrie.

Sat Feb 18, 2012 7:38 am

Arcee here is definitely entirely personal preference for the most part, nothing definitive to show that one is better than the other. To me, the PRiD Arcee just feels kinda slumped and plain and the FE seems more characterful and like she has a proper posture and profile. It's an area where I oddly feel that I prefer the First Edition's design over show accuracy, with the exception of the torso. I don't mind so much fiddling with the arms to get them into position, especially considering the FE has something to it's arms that win over the PRiD, which Optibotimus did not mention, the FE Arcee has a double jointed elbow. I also prefer the old head.

As for her height. Well, Arcee was taller than BB in G1 anyway...

Sat Feb 18, 2012 8:32 am

Hmm...I'm gonna say "Draw" for the battle of FE and RiD. Both have their pros and cons at an equal level. I prefer the blue on FE more while I prefer the scaling on the RiD more...So yeah "Draw".

PS : Just so you know I hate fembots and motorbots xD. Dont even start arguing with me why I hate em...It's gonna get messy >.>...

News Credits: 10 · Sat Feb 18, 2012 12:00 pm

Stumpybot wrote:I've got to admit, the detail on the arms impressed me. The fact you can swap in the fe blades is also pretty cool

And not to continue to stoke the PRID VS FE argument BUT I have fe cliffjumper and PRID Wheeljack in front of me. They're the same height and Wheeljack is much more solid

and I will defend the quality of PRID soundwave and Wheeljack to the bitter end. Arcee's size is for scale. I think it's brave of Hasbro to do this, but I do like it

Talking about quality, I noticed that the plastic on PRID Meg is rather light. Yes, it is sturdy and does not feel cheap, but its just really light, and kinda bendy. Compared to a generations from 2010... say WFC prime, WFC prime is actually heavier than PRID megs, and its plastic is not as bendy.

Anyone else noticed it?

Sat Feb 18, 2012 7:29 pm

I kinda like the wings. Toon accuracy be damned.

...please. I grew up with G1. "Toon accuracy" meant Sunbow got most of the toy colors right.

Sat Feb 18, 2012 7:33 pm

Heckfire wrote:I kinda like the wings. Toon accuracy be damned.

...please. I grew up with G1. "Toon accuracy" meant Sunbow got most of the colors right.

No offence, but your avatar doesn't help your credibility :lol:

Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:25 pm

MINDVVIPE wrote:
Heckfire wrote:I kinda like the wings. Toon accuracy be damned.

...please. I grew up with G1. "Toon accuracy" meant Sunbow got most of the colors right.

No offence, but your avatar doesn't help your credibility

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