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El Duque wrote:Trikeboy wrote:
Fixed your YouTube code.
Trikeboy wrote:Thanks, what did I do wrong, for future reference?
Counterpunch wrote:I can't understand the positive reactions to this.
Flux Convoy wrote:Counterpunch wrote:I can't understand the positive reactions to this.
I actually can't understand all the negative. The only real problems I see are a)the paint deco on the doors is wrong and a bit strange and b)the magenta is a strange hue that doesn't blend as well as I'd prefer. It could stand to be darker. You have to know Reprolabels will do something about the door decos. The rest I can live with. The bot mode and weapon are clean and uncluttered. I'm quite surprised to see this response from you considering how positive you've been with much of the current domestic stuff. Just my two cents, bud.
Counterpunch wrote:Flux Convoy wrote:Counterpunch wrote:I can't understand the positive reactions to this.
I actually can't understand all the negative. The only real problems I see are a)the paint deco on the doors is wrong and a bit strange and b)the magenta is a strange hue that doesn't blend as well as I'd prefer. It could stand to be darker. You have to know Reprolabels will do something about the door decos. The rest I can live with. The bot mode and weapon are clean and uncluttered. I'm quite surprised to see this response from you considering how positive you've been with much of the current domestic stuff. Just my two cents, bud.
Then you know I'm not just spouting off here.
The robot mode is suffering from several hollow points that had this figure been done a year ago, we would not be seeing. His shoulder pads are not right in their position, angle, or color. The arms do the same trick that pRID Cliffjumper does so poorly.
The deco of the car speaks poorly of itself. I don't have to say much. The fact that we're all hoping Reprolabels fixes this before we even have it in hand speaks volumes.
Here's the real issue. This is a character who is supposed to look good. He's supposed to be the best looking alt mode going. I could forgive some of the bot mode issues if I could look at this and say, "Hey, they really understand the character...look at those alt mode paint aps."
What this figure tells me is a confirmation of a somewhat sneaking suspicion I've had about this line...it's not a priority. When I see stuff like this, I know Hasbro has learned the wrong lesson from the success of selling toys in the movie line.
Knockout should be fantastic. He should get the lion's share of paint aps in a given assortment. His appearance should be over the top. At the very least it should be the best in the assortment. Frankly, Hot Shot has more care given to him and he's not even a show character.
Why are they bothering to do such a good show with intricate character designs only to push out inferior product to anything that's come through in the past two years?
I'm not even like a huge Knockout fan or anything. I'm not trying to be confrontational with anyone who likes this toy and I'm not trying to be a dick to other fans here.
I've never gone around saying that toys are getting worse or that "it used to be better way back when".
That being said...I really am starting to think that we've peaked. If this is the best Hasbro can do, then we've entered a whole new age of compromise. And if that's the case, my collecting dollars really will go to other places that do not cut corners.
RhA wrote:Counterpunch wrote:Flux Convoy wrote:Counterpunch wrote:I can't understand the positive reactions to this.
I actually can't understand all the negative. The only real problems I see are a)the paint deco on the doors is wrong and a bit strange and b)the magenta is a strange hue that doesn't blend as well as I'd prefer. It could stand to be darker. You have to know Reprolabels will do something about the door decos. The rest I can live with. The bot mode and weapon are clean and uncluttered. I'm quite surprised to see this response from you considering how positive you've been with much of the current domestic stuff. Just my two cents, bud.
Then you know I'm not just spouting off here.
The robot mode is suffering from several hollow points that had this figure been done a year ago, we would not be seeing. His shoulder pads are not right in their position, angle, or color. The arms do the same trick that pRID Cliffjumper does so poorly.
The deco of the car speaks poorly of itself. I don't have to say much. The fact that we're all hoping Reprolabels fixes this before we even have it in hand speaks volumes.
Here's the real issue. This is a character who is supposed to look good. He's supposed to be the best looking alt mode going. I could forgive some of the bot mode issues if I could look at this and say, "Hey, they really understand the character...look at those alt mode paint aps."
What this figure tells me is a confirmation of a somewhat sneaking suspicion I've had about this line...it's not a priority. When I see stuff like this, I know Hasbro has learned the wrong lesson from the success of selling toys in the movie line.
Knockout should be fantastic. He should get the lion's share of paint aps in a given assortment. His appearance should be over the top. At the very least it should be the best in the assortment. Frankly, Hot Shot has more care given to him and he's not even a show character.
Why are they bothering to do such a good show with intricate character designs only to push out inferior product to anything that's come through in the past two years?
I'm not even like a huge Knockout fan or anything. I'm not trying to be confrontational with anyone who likes this toy and I'm not trying to be a dick to other fans here.
I've never gone around saying that toys are getting worse or that "it used to be better way back when".
That being said...I really am starting to think that we've peaked. If this is the best Hasbro can do, then we've entered a whole new age of compromise. And if that's the case, my collecting dollars really will go to other places that do not cut corners.
The real issue IMO is the hollowness of the mold. He looks like a bunch of panels folded up to look like he's a solid robot. All the rest is a matter of taste, really.
Counterpunch wrote:RhA wrote:Counterpunch wrote:Flux Convoy wrote:Counterpunch wrote:I can't understand the positive reactions to this.
I actually can't understand all the negative. The only real problems I see are a)the paint deco on the doors is wrong and a bit strange and b)the magenta is a strange hue that doesn't blend as well as I'd prefer. It could stand to be darker. You have to know Reprolabels will do something about the door decos. The rest I can live with. The bot mode and weapon are clean and uncluttered. I'm quite surprised to see this response from you considering how positive you've been with much of the current domestic stuff. Just my two cents, bud.
Then you know I'm not just spouting off here.
The robot mode is suffering from several hollow points that had this figure been done a year ago, we would not be seeing. His shoulder pads are not right in their position, angle, or color. The arms do the same trick that pRID Cliffjumper does so poorly.
The deco of the car speaks poorly of itself. I don't have to say much. The fact that we're all hoping Reprolabels fixes this before we even have it in hand speaks volumes.
Here's the real issue. This is a character who is supposed to look good. He's supposed to be the best looking alt mode going. I could forgive some of the bot mode issues if I could look at this and say, "Hey, they really understand the character...look at those alt mode paint aps."
What this figure tells me is a confirmation of a somewhat sneaking suspicion I've had about this line...it's not a priority. When I see stuff like this, I know Hasbro has learned the wrong lesson from the success of selling toys in the movie line.
Knockout should be fantastic. He should get the lion's share of paint aps in a given assortment. His appearance should be over the top. At the very least it should be the best in the assortment. Frankly, Hot Shot has more care given to him and he's not even a show character.
Why are they bothering to do such a good show with intricate character designs only to push out inferior product to anything that's come through in the past two years?
I'm not even like a huge Knockout fan or anything. I'm not trying to be confrontational with anyone who likes this toy and I'm not trying to be a dick to other fans here.
I've never gone around saying that toys are getting worse or that "it used to be better way back when".
That being said...I really am starting to think that we've peaked. If this is the best Hasbro can do, then we've entered a whole new age of compromise. And if that's the case, my collecting dollars really will go to other places that do not cut corners.
The real issue IMO is the hollowness of the mold. He looks like a bunch of panels folded up to look like he's a solid robot. All the rest is a matter of taste, really.
Are you saying that it's a matter of taste as to whether or not a toy and the character it represents should reflect the fictional portrayal?
-Kanrabat- wrote:TF-fan kev777 wrote:First-Aid wrote:Okay, did anyone else notice that we all get a wonderful shot of Starscreams crotch anytime he sits in that throne? That's unnerving. Couldn't they have put n extra flap in there? It's....weird.
Its kind of like Basic Instinct, but not in a good way...
Goddammit, now I can't unsee it.
DISCHARGE wrote:I think the R\C version of him is much cooler
The attention to detail for the R\C version is over the top and will most likely sit on shelves. The deluxe version has the potential to sell much better, but will drive people away with what looks like a disaster.
-Kanrabat- wrote:TF-fan kev777 wrote:First-Aid wrote:Okay, did anyone else notice that we all get a wonderful shot of Starscreams crotch anytime he sits in that throne? That's unnerving. Couldn't they have put n extra flap in there? It's....weird.
Its kind of like Basic Instinct, but not in a good way...
Goddammit, now I can't unsee it.
First-Aid wrote:Which people would those be? The collectors? Or the 7 years olds yelling "GIMME GIMME GIMME" at their parents who could really care less about if a paint app is off?
We as collectors have been spoiled by the third-party companies, and we will miss them when they are gone. But the average kid- at whom these toys are aimed- and their parents- who could care less what the toy looks like as long as it shuts up the kids- will not care. It is about the character to them, and let's face it...the kids are going to beat the crap out of the toy anyways. If the kids want it, the parents will buy it. If Breakdown or Wheeljack or Dreadwing are their favorites, then no amount of damage or bad paint will deter them from getting that figure as long as the character is recognizable.
DISCHARGE wrote:As much as people try to yell that the kids drive the toy market, collectors play a huge role in it, probably more than the market research people get off spouting. Walk into the toy aisle and tell me you don't often see potential collectors buying toys more often than kids with their parents. Odds are the kids are gonna get one toy each, while the collector is gonna snatch up several just for him\herself.
-Kanrabat- wrote:TF-fan kev777 wrote:First-Aid wrote:Okay, did anyone else notice that we all get a wonderful shot of Starscreams crotch anytime he sits in that throne? That's unnerving. Couldn't they have put n extra flap in there? It's....weird.
Its kind of like Basic Instinct, but not in a good way...
Goddammit, now I can't unsee it.
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