The Energon Pub

Tue Dec 09, 2014 3:29 pm

Crossing my fingers for an eventual Voyager Grimlock.

That Deluxe one does look pretty cool though.

News Credits: 62 · Tue Dec 09, 2014 3:32 pm

Robogeek1973 wrote:Crossing my fingers for an eventual Voyager Grimlock.

That Deluxe one does look pretty cool though.

The Closest thing we are going to get is a 3 Step Grimlock for now.

Tue Dec 09, 2014 3:34 pm

Aren't the Flip'n'Change similar in size to Leader class?

My son's Flip/Smash'n'Change Grimlock & Optimus are pretty much the same height as my Masterpiece Grimlock & Optimus (MP10).

Unless you're referring to the smaller One-Step Changers, which are probably somewhere between the Deluxe and old Scout class.

Tue Dec 09, 2014 3:34 pm

The 3-Step Grimlock is in better scale with the other Warrior Class figures, but the Warrior Grimlock has better posability. And the Warrior Grimlock is slightly too big to use with Legion figures! :BOOM:

News Credits: 3 · Tue Dec 09, 2014 3:37 pm

So is Warrior class going to be the deluxe class? I would prefer a little better scaling than this. Voyager Grimlock, and the rest in Deluxe class to compliment some of my PRID/Arms-Micron figures since this is kinda a continuation of it.

I just learned to appreciate Arms-Micron a lot after it had been out for a while.

Tue Dec 09, 2014 3:41 pm

Going to be saving alot of money in 2015 & 2016 it looks like. No animated Voyagers or Leader class since the 3 step have replaced one of the two offerings. This line is clearly meant for children, not a problem. But Hasbro certainly didnt learn anything with AOE sales of this kind of junk. Which figures were the ones that ran out of stock frequently? The generations deluxe style. And they shy away from that here. So this line is going to be a waste unfortunately. Too bad too because I have lots of prime figures.

On the plus side the Generations Combiner Wars are decent looking. Will only have to keep pace with one line this year.

Tue Dec 09, 2014 3:41 pm

LOL........$19 for a one step and $9 for a legion class figure?

No thanks. Buying a TF at retail is enough highway robbery for my taste, let alone these insulting prices.

I never understood, in all my years of collecting, why people are so impatient for a product that will be 1/2 price at regular retail in a month or so. They pay a premium, and for what?

Tue Dec 09, 2014 3:42 pm

The toys look good though. I will probably pick up a few one steps for my sons next month.

News Credits: 62 · Tue Dec 09, 2014 3:42 pm

Unfortunately no signs of a proper Voyager Class in the future.

Tue Dec 09, 2014 3:42 pm

Does anybody else think that Hasbro is experimenting to see how much ugly we can take? Truely, no offense.

News Credits: 241 · Tue Dec 09, 2014 3:45 pm

bvzxa wrote:So is Warrior class going to be the deluxe class? I would prefer a little better scaling than this. Voyager Grimlock, and the rest in Deluxe class to compliment some of my PRID/Arms-Micron figures since this is kinda a continuation of it.

I just learned to appreciate Arms-Micron a lot after it had been out for a while.

Warrior Class is akin to the Simplified Deluxe Class from the tail end of Beast Hunters. They should be the same rough size, but not as complex as regular Deluxes. And it seems that will be the only Class alongside Legion Class without any real gimmicks, like One-Step or Three-Step Transformations.

By the by, I noticed the Warriors are not numbered, or have a Series number at all. Very peculiar.

MyFigureCollection.net collection · Tue Dec 09, 2014 4:46 pm

william-james88 wrote:I feel the same way (as does Cobotron). I actually find this quite original. These decepticons are original characters with original designs that dont play much of an homage to anything previous. That is quite rare when you think of it (both Prime and Animated were all about homages and inspiration from previous lines).

I see them as basically just transforming Battle Beasts, though. At least Thunder Hoof and Steeljaw look a lot like them.

Emerje

Tue Dec 09, 2014 5:02 pm

shockblast2 wrote:
I never understood, in all my years of collecting, why people are so impatient for a product that will be 1/2 price at regular retail in a month or so. They pay a premium, and for what?

Gotta have that plastic crack fix as soon as possible man. :lol:

News Credits: 65 · Tue Dec 09, 2014 5:25 pm

I wonder if Hasbro plans to roll out a "proper" series of deluxes and voyagers for RID 2015 in the Generations line at some point. The Movie 4 figures were technically split between a subline of the Generations branding and the more kid friendly "RID" assortments. Maybe Hasbro is starting with the kid-centric product first, gauging the interest in the cartoon after it launches, and then deciding whether going forward with adult collectible versions of the RID 2015 cast makes financial sense. Maybe that means waiting until 2016, or maybe they could run such a subline concurrently with the Generations Combiner Wars line as happened this year with the movie versus regular Generations lines.

News Credits: 241 · Tue Dec 09, 2014 5:31 pm

Wolfman Jake wrote:I wonder if Hasbro plans to roll out a "proper" series of deluxes and voyagers for RID 2015 in the Generations line at some point. The Movie 4 figures were technically split between a subline of the Generations branding and the more kid friendly "RID" assortments. Maybe Hasbro is starting with the kid-centric product first, gauging the interest in the cartoon after it launches, and then deciding whether going forward with adult collectible versions of the RID 2015 cast makes financial sense. Maybe that means waiting until 2016, or maybe they could run such a subline concurrently with the Generations Combiner Wars line as happened this year with the movie versus regular Generations lines.

Well, Hasbro did claim the Warrior series is for kids and collectors alike, so...

News Credits: 65 · Tue Dec 09, 2014 5:39 pm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Well, Hasbro did claim the Warrior series is for kids and collectors alike, so...

They can always change their minds. If the roll out of the TF Prime toys is any indication, Hasbro is not shy about changing horses mid-stream.

Tue Dec 09, 2014 6:45 pm

Will Thunderfoot, Bisk, and Hammerstrike have Warrior figures in the upcoming event? If so, when? Since we do already know that Bisk is a muscle car, judging by the footage, what are the vehicle modes for Thunderfoot and Hammerstrike?

News Credits: 251 · Tue Dec 09, 2014 6:47 pm

psj333 wrote:Will Thunderfoot, Bisk, and Hammerstrike have Warrior figures in the upcoming event? If so, when? Since we do already know that Bisk is a muscle car, judging by the footage, what are the vehicle modes for Thunderfoot and Hammerstrike?

Those are questions that can't be answered at this time. Perhaps we'll see something during Toy Fair 2015?

News Credits: 41 · Tue Dec 09, 2014 6:52 pm

Mindmaster wrote:
psj333 wrote:Will Thunderfoot, Bisk, and Hammerstrike have Warrior figures in the upcoming event? If so, when? Since we do already know that Bisk is a muscle car, judging by the footage, what are the vehicle modes for Thunderfoot and Hammerstrike?

Those are questions that can't be answered at this time. Perhaps we'll see something during Toy Fair 2015?

I hope Thunderhoof is a stag, but he might be a Cadilac with antlers on the hood.

or this?

News Credits: 65 · Tue Dec 09, 2014 7:15 pm

Cobotron wrote:I hope Thunderhoof is a stag, but he might be a Cadilac with antlers on the hood.

or this?

Has Habro/Takara every made an alt mode with goofy accessories before? They might as well start now, though let's all hope they never cross the line into...ugh..."truck nuts."

News Credits: 7 · Tue Dec 09, 2014 7:24 pm

Legends Bumblebee reminds me of his g1 self with the front window chest.

Tue Dec 09, 2014 8:33 pm

I just noticed that the Legion figures don't seem to come with any weapons. Kinda like the old Legends class and the recent AOE Legion repaints. If they don't come with weapons that will suck as I really liked how Prime's legions all had combinable weapons. It will also be a real shame too as the hands seem to be molded for weapons and there are ports on the alt modes.

I really wish Hasbro would make weapon packs. I would buy them up real quick. Each weapons package could have a bunch of random weapons all in the same color and each pack will be a different color and each case could have thee colors at a time. They could put c-clip weapons, Energon weapons, PRID and Beast Hunters Cyberverse weapons or even Minicons, Targetmasters and Microns. I'm surprised they never did that after they introduced the c-clip system. They kept making figures that were compatible but there weren't enough weapons to go around.

They can make them in black, white, grey, brown, red, orange, yellow, green, blue, purple, pink and silver chrome plastics. Each run of colors could be the waves for one year, three colors a quarter, and each year all color packs will contain the same weapons and include things like a complete Star/Dark or Energon/Vorpal Sabre, a Requiem Blaster, a Skyboom Shield, an assortment of the three released Targetmasters (Cyclonus' and Scoop's), an assortment of three PCC Minicons (and Deluxe Armada Optimus Primes Minicon), an assortment of two or three Microns or assortments of the Armada weapons Minicon (non combining) packs with the Takara 5mm ports so normal Transformers can hold them. They can be sold at Deluxe prices if they contain Targetmaster, Minicons or Microns or Legends prices if they go with normal weapons only with no transforming figure weapons. I would buy multiples of each color if they did something like this.

Tue Dec 09, 2014 8:39 pm

What is Hammerstrike altmode is going to be? Will these animal-based Transformers will have vehicle modes in the same way as Steeljaw?

News Credits: 41 · Tue Dec 09, 2014 8:51 pm

Alpha Weltall wrote:I really wish Hasbro would make weapon packs. I would buy them up real quick.

Like they used to do for G.I. Joe. Way back in the day.
I totally agree. I was just asking around if any 3Ps make non-specific weapons packs. No dice. This seems like it would be easy money.

News Credits: 1 · Tue Dec 09, 2014 8:54 pm

Alpha Weltall wrote:I just noticed that the Legion figures don't seem to come with any weapons. Kinda like the old Legends class and the recent AOE Legion repaints. If they don't come with weapons that will suck as I really liked how Prime's legions all had combinable weapons. It will also be a real shame too as the hands seem to be molded for weapons and there are ports on the alt modes.

I really wish Hasbro would make weapon packs. I would buy them up real quick. Each weapons package could have a bunch of random weapons all in the same color and each pack will be a different color and each case could have thee colors at a time. They could put c-clip weapons, Energon weapons, PRID and Beast Hunters Cyberverse weapons or even Minicons, Targetmasters and Microns. I'm surprised they never did that after they introduced the c-clip system. They kept making figures that were compatible but there weren't enough weapons to go around.

They can make them in black, white, grey, brown, red, orange, yellow, green, blue, purple, pink and silver chrome plastics. Each run of colors could be the waves for one year, three colors a quarter, and each year all color packs will contain the same weapons and include things like a complete Star/Dark or Energon/Vorpal Sabre, a Requiem Blaster, a Skyboom Shield, an assortment of the three released Targetmasters (Cyclonus' and Scoop's), an assortment of three PCC Minicons (and Deluxe Armada Optimus Primes Minicon), an assortment of two or three Microns or assortments of the Armada weapons Minicon (non combining) packs with the Takara 5mm ports so normal Transformers can hold them. They can be sold at Deluxe prices if they contain Targetmaster, Minicons or Microns or Legends prices if they go with normal weapons only with no transforming figure weapons. I would buy multiples of each color if they did something like this.

i actually like that idea.

might make some people's wallets happy