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Delta Magnus wrote:I just don't get the point of the shampoo bottles. They can't transform. They don't have the increased articulation that non-transforming Transformers often have. They don't have the increase in accuracy, sculpture and paintwork that minimally articulated figures often have. And they aren't even that cheap. If they were hugely poseable or gorgeously painted or extremely cartoon accurate or only £2 I might understand. But as is? There is literally no point to getting them over a Warrior class figure or even a one-step. I'm no economist, but there is absolutely no way that continuing to make these...things makes any sense for Hasbro. It decreases the budget they have for other lines and it takes up space on store shelves that could be used by stuff that will actually sell.

I weep for the ignorance on these boards regarding these "shampoo bottles". These arent Transfomers toys aside from having that branding. In reality, they are part of a bigger line called Titans from Hasbro which sells ridiculously well for 4 year olds, and are made of vynyl so that kids dont get hurt:







They are found in all Hasbro brands and this is what sells most under the Marvel umbrella. No reason Hasbro wouldnt try that success with another one of its monster brands. This isnt new and its been arond for a while and selling, and the world hasnt ended and Hasbro is still making traditional Transformers for you. No need to whine at something you dont understand and that isnt made for you!

So, everybody's getting a Stealth, Blizzard, and/or Scorch Strike deco... am I too late to coin the phrase "Repaints in Disguise?"

Glarryg

i'd hate to be that guy, but why does ransack look like a retool of Armada Dead end?

Autobot tap out wrote:i'd hate to be that guy, but why does ransack look like a retool of Armada Dead end?

They roughly share an altmode silhouette, but are otherwise different in every way.

(I guess the animation model of the "gun ball" mode may homage Dead End. My tinfoil hat theory is that the chaotic Cyclones (and only them, since we know normal Aligned Mini's are born like regular tfs) might tie into the Armada idea of Minicons being born of Unicron.)

So they really are going all out on this fire and ice theme. I wonder if they will include any other elements as the series progress.

Let's get some earth, wind and heart minicons

Glarryg wrote:So, everybody's getting a Stealth, Blizzard, and/or Scorch Strike deco... am I too late to coin the phrase "Repaints in Disguise?"

Glarryg

Didnt this also happen with the entirety of the Beast Hunters line?

carytheone wrote:So they really are going all out on this fire and ice theme. I wonder if they will include any other elements as the series progress.

Let's get some earth, wind and heart minicons

Heart Minicons? What element is heart, the element of love?

william-james88 wrote:

carytheone wrote:So they really are going all out on this fire and ice theme. I wonder if they will include any other elements as the series progress.

Let's get some earth, wind and heart minicons

Heart Minicons? What element is heart, the element of love?

Ya nailed it Captain!

william-james88 wrote:

Glarryg wrote:So, everybody's getting a Stealth, Blizzard, and/or Scorch Strike deco... am I too late to coin the phrase "Repaints in Disguise?"

Glarryg

Didnt this also happen with the entirety of the Beast Hunters line?

Not that I know of. They just remolded all the molds to make Mad Max autobots with the typical Bee repaint. Nothing like different themed minicon groups

william-james88 wrote:

carytheone wrote:So they really are going all out on this fire and ice theme. I wonder if they will include any other elements as the series progress.

Let's get some earth, wind and heart minicons

Heart Minicons? What element is heart, the element of love?

Oh come on, you're older than me but you don't recognize a Captain Planet reference when you see one?

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Glarryg wrote:So, everybody's getting a Stealth, Blizzard, and/or Scorch Strike deco... am I too late to coin the phrase "Repaints in Disguise?"

Glarryg

Didnt this also happen with the entirety of the Beast Hunters line?

Not that I know of. They just remolded all the molds to make Mad Max autobots with the typical Bee repaint. Nothing like different themed minicon groups

There was a shadow stike bumblee in the prime line. And don't forget the various blizzard strike RID warrior redcos.

That Bot wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

carytheone wrote:So they really are going all out on this fire and ice theme. I wonder if they will include any other elements as the series progress.

Let's get some earth, wind and heart minicons

Heart Minicons? What element is heart, the element of love?

Oh come on, you're older than me but you don't recognize a Captain Planet reference when you see one?

The only captain planet i know is the one by Don Cheadle. I guess he wasnt that popular in Canada. Unlike Ms Frizzle and the magic schoolbus.

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Glarryg wrote:So, everybody's getting a Stealth, Blizzard, and/or Scorch Strike deco... am I too late to coin the phrase "Repaints in Disguise?"

Glarryg

Didnt this also happen with the entirety of the Beast Hunters line?

Not that I know of. They just remolded all the molds to make Mad Max autobots with the typical Bee repaint. Nothing like different themed minicon groups

The Point Glarryg was making was that the RID line has turned into a bunch of redecos. And I was saying thats pretty much what the Prime line became in beasthunters. Sure, there was some remolding but it was basically using the same molds and selling them again under a different theme.

william-james88 wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Glarryg wrote:So, everybody's getting a Stealth, Blizzard, and/or Scorch Strike deco... am I too late to coin the phrase "Repaints in Disguise?"

Glarryg

Didnt this also happen with the entirety of the Beast Hunters line?

Not that I know of. They just remolded all the molds to make Mad Max autobots with the typical Bee repaint. Nothing like different themed minicon groups

The Point Glarryg was making was that the RID line has turned into a bunch of redecos. And I was saying thats pretty much what the Prime line became in beasthunters. Sure, there was some remolding but it was basically using the same molds and selling them again under a different theme.

"some remolding":

But on the topic of RiD - it seems a lot like these camo decos are simply a reason to keep the existing cast on the shelves while focusing more on Decepticons. It allows Hasbro to put "new" Autobot toys on the shelves (and we always need new Autobot toys on the shelves) while putting design/engineering focus into the S1 and S2 Decepticons.

william-james88 wrote:

That Bot wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

carytheone wrote:So they really are going all out on this fire and ice theme. I wonder if they will include any other elements as the series progress.

Let's get some earth, wind and heart minicons

Heart Minicons? What element is heart, the element of love?

Oh come on, you're older than me but you don't recognize a Captain Planet reference when you see one?

The only captain planet i know is the one by Don Cheadle. I guess he wasnt that popular in Canada. Unlike Ms Frizzle and the magic schoolbus.

Classic 1980's Hanna-Barbera/DiC cartoon:

william-james88 wrote:The Point Glarryg was making was that the RID line has turned into a bunch of redecos. And I was saying thats pretty much what the Prime line became in beasthunters. Sure, there was some remolding but it was basically using the same molds and selling them again under a different theme.

Yes, but, it was all the same single theme rather than all the characters getting several redecos based on a set number of multiple themes, which is what his post read more to me as referring to.

Prime at least gave us more than one Decepticon before unloading all the same Autobots again but with a new lick of paint.

Mad Max autobots

Y'know, I'm kinda disappointed that nobody seems to have recreated Mad Max scenes with these Transformers, especially with Fury Road being such a success.
Granted, I dunno how many people even bothered to get the toys in the first place...

RevTibe wrote:

Autobot tap out wrote:i'd hate to be that guy, but why does ransack look like a retool of Armada Dead end?

They roughly share an altmode silhouette, but are otherwise different in every way.

(I guess the animation model of the "gun ball" mode may homage Dead End. My tinfoil hat theory is that the chaotic Cyclones (and only them, since we know normal Aligned Mini's are born like regular tfs) might tie into the Armada idea of Minicons being born of Unicron.)

thanks for helping out. sorting the confusion

any sign of a Polar Claw figure coming?

Stuartmaximus wrote:any sign of a Polar Claw figure coming?

Why would there be?

steals_your_goats wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:any sign of a Polar Claw figure coming?

Why would there be?

Because of the new character in the second episode of the new season who looks like a retool of Steeljaw?!

Lunatic Prime wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:any sign of a Polar Claw figure coming?

Why would there be?

Because of the new character in the second episode of the new season who looks like a retool of Steeljaw?!

Not sure how I'd feel about that, a tail-less steeljaw figure? But wouldn't that leave him as an unbalanced mess with ineffectual articulation?

I mean, really, his tail was a big selling point and the third leg on which the figure balanced/counter-balanced; his arms have terrible articulation, along with his legs, nevermind that the car mode would still look like a wolfs head

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Lunatic Prime wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:any sign of a Polar Claw figure coming?

Why would there be?

Because of the new character in the second episode of the new season who looks like a retool of Steeljaw?!

Not sure how I'd feel about that, a tail-less steeljaw figure? But wouldn't that leave him as an unbalanced mess with ineffectual articulation?

I mean, really, his tail was a big selling point and the third leg on which the figure balanced/counter-balanced; his arms have terrible articulation, along with his legs, nevermind that the car mode would still look like a wolfs head

RETOOL/-MOLD

Lunatic Prime wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Lunatic Prime wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:any sign of a Polar Claw figure coming?

Why would there be?

Because of the new character in the second episode of the new season who looks like a retool of Steeljaw?!

Not sure how I'd feel about that, a tail-less steeljaw figure? But wouldn't that leave him as an unbalanced mess with ineffectual articulation?

I mean, really, his tail was a big selling point and the third leg on which the figure balanced/counter-balanced; his arms have terrible articulation, along with his legs, nevermind that the car mode would still look like a wolfs head

RETOOL/-MOLD

Sorry, but it didn't look very re-tool-y in the show, but I wouldn't mind it if it was completely over-hauled, I would love one with nice articulation.

Stuartmaximus wrote:any sign of a Polar Claw figure coming?

Nothing new has been said since Toy Fair, at which there was no Polarclaw figure.

Sabrblade wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:any sign of a Polar Claw figure coming?

Nothing new has been said since Toy Fair, at which there was no Polarclaw figure.

Well it took them this long to give us fracture, so I'm sure a bit character like polarclaw will get a figure in about 4.65 years after 12 additional sets of repaints

It is time for the Transformers Robots in Disguise App to have a new update and that leads to a ton of new possible characters and classes that can be unlocked. While some of these new additions have been game specific (as Ironhide and Pumpkin Optimus were), many of these will become toys. Some, like One Step Bisk, have already been revealed but we have other nice new surprises.

Firstly, Bisk and Ratchet seem to be getting quie a few new toys. Also, for those who thought it wasn't fair that only the Autobots were getting all the repaints, the Decepticon characters Paralon and Scatterspike appear to be redecos of Warriors Scorponok and Quillfire.

Below is a list and images of all the new charaters found in the app (courtesy fo the snakas blog) and please remember that these are only possibilities of upcoming toys and not confirmation that we will be getting them.

• Power Surge Optimus Prime
• Warrior Power Surge Optimus Prime
• Warrior Power Surge Elite Optimus Prime








• Switchblade Night Bumblebee
• Power Hero Bumblebee
• Power Hero Surge Bumblebee








• Power Hero Sideswipe




• One-Step Ratchet
• Warrior Ratchet






• Legion Bisk
• One-Step Bisk
• Warrior Bisk
• Hero Bisk










• Warrior Paralon
• Warrior Scatterspike