Mykltron wrote:I was going to say that it was untrue to say we were locked in a 'war of words' as people seemed to be of the same opinion until ^those last two posts^. Geez guys, chill. If they re-released him in the UK under the name N***** the American whites would have a similar reaction and black people would probably react the same way as the Disability Rights Commission (DRC) and charity Scope did to Tiger Woods. If a British runner was quoted as saying he ran as well as a Jungle Bunny it would be the cultural equivalent of Tiger Woods using the word Spaz.
Please note, I am not racist or anti-black. If I've used non-correct terms it's through ignorance not contempt. I didn't use the N-word to address or describe anyone.
Windsweeper wrote:I still can't believe how insensitive some people are being, almost 2 the point of being offensive. The fact is that the populations of several countries take offense to this word and while others here may not understand why, they could at least try to be respectful.
I'm just hoping the thing gets renamed as Dragstrip.
MightyMagnus78 wrote:My brother is disabled and for the majority of his education that word was a constant source of torment.
Although I do appreciate there are colloquial differences, a little bit of sensitivity goes a long way. In my opinion, Hasbro could have easily avoided this whole drama by simply adopting a little diligence and care.
Counterpunch wrote:MightyMagnus78 wrote:My brother is disabled and for the majority of his education that word was a constant source of torment.
Although I do appreciate there are colloquial differences, a little bit of sensitivity goes a long way. In my opinion, Hasbro could have easily avoided this whole drama by simply adopting a little diligence and care.
That's the thing, it's not a sensitivity issue.
If American's are using the word "Retard" or "Crip" or "Slowmo", then they're being purposely offensive.
Actually, Americans or anyone not in the UK.
"Spastic" or "Spaz" has a legitimate and frequently used meaning in most of the rest of the world that is so far from being offensive to the group of people in question that the rest of the non-UK world is just like, "Really?".
Now, I think the figure should be altered in name for the UK release, that makes sense.
kirbenvost wrote:Mykltron wrote:I was going to say that it was untrue to say we were locked in a 'war of words' as people seemed to be of the same opinion until ^those last two posts^. Geez guys, chill. If they re-released him in the UK under the name N***** the American whites would have a similar reaction and black people would probably react the same way as the Disability Rights Commission (DRC) and charity Scope did to Tiger Woods. If a British runner was quoted as saying he ran as well as a Jungle Bunny it would be the cultural equivalent of Tiger Woods using the word Spaz.
Please note, I am not racist or anti-black. If I've used non-correct terms it's through ignorance not contempt. I didn't use the N-word to address or describe anyone.
Jungle bunny? I have never seen that term used before.
jlogano20 wrote:why are there people who have no life but to find anything that may offend a few idiots and make a big deal about it???
and ta few idiots better not mess up this sweet g1 homage figure
Burn wrote:jlogano20 wrote:why are there people who have no life but to find anything that may offend a few idiots and make a big deal about it???
and ta few idiots better not mess up this sweet g1 homage figure
So what you're saying is that the people in those countries (and it's not just the UK) where the word "spastic" is a derogatory term, are all idiots?
kirbenvost wrote:I dunno, isn't the n-word just as offensive over there?
Mr O wrote:It's clearly a word that bears various meanings. It was used as an insult at my school, as was the word slag, but we're not in school now. It's not intended to be taken in an offensive way and so shouldn't be; the 'N' word on the other hand is quite another matter, but beside the point.
Counterpunch wrote:Comparing the n-word to "spaz" is a poor comparison. One was created with the intent to be demeaning the other was created with a non-offensive intent.
wiki wrote:The word originated as a term used in a neutral context to refer to black people, as a variation of the Spanish/Portuguese noun negro, a descendant of the Latin adjective niger, meaning the color "black".
Mr O wrote:It was used as an insult at my school, as was the word slag, but we're not in school now.
Tankor99 wrote:Has anyone bothered to point out that regardless of the offence it might cause that it's a rubish name for Transformer? I mean come on what next 'Chav','Skank' maybe 'Wanker'? Oh and how about the original faux-pas Slag!
It is offensive to many people and calls by the unoffended for people to 'get over it' are as insensative as Hasbros negligence in not concidering their global audience when naming the toy.
Oh and this is funny:Mr O wrote:It was used as an insult at my school, as was the word slag, but we're not in school now.
.....and where do you think most of the people who will see/own this toy are...you guess it at school, where you tend to find children, you know those little people who toys are aimed at?
Mykltron wrote:Counterpunch wrote:Comparing the n-word to "spaz" is a poor comparison. One was created with the intent to be demeaning the other was created with a non-offensive intent.
Not so. My theory was that, as many French people settled in the south (EG New Orleans, from the French town Orlèan), the N word was an Americanised pronunciation of the the French word for black people - nègre. Afterwards if became perjorative. According to Wikipedia I was close:wiki wrote:The word originated as a term used in a neutral context to refer to black people, as a variation of the Spanish/Portuguese noun negro, a descendant of the Latin adjective niger, meaning the color "black".
Add to that today's obsession with equal rights and political correctness and, well, maybe comparing the two isn't totally fair but for us Brits it's not THAT far off.
Mr O wrote:Tankor99 wrote:Has anyone bothered to point out that regardless of the offence it might cause that it's a rubish name for Transformer? I mean come on what next 'Chav','Skank' maybe 'Wanker'? Oh and how about the original faux-pas Slag!
It is offensive to many people and calls by the unoffended for people to 'get over it' are as insensative as Hasbros negligence in not concidering their global audience when naming the toy.
Oh and this is funny:Mr O wrote:It was used as an insult at my school, as was the word slag, but we're not in school now.
.....and where do you think most of the people who will see/own this toy are...you guess it at school, where you tend to find children, you know those little people who toys are aimed at?
Way to take me out of context. As long as you find it amusing that's great and next time you're hunting kids maybe you could sit in on an English lesson.
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