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News Credits: 22 · by **Rodimus Prime** » Thu Oct 01, 2020 9:15 pm

-WonkoTheSane- wrote:How many people are planning to buy three of him, One for Scourge, Two for the Sweeps.

I'm gonna get 1 Scourge and buy another TR Scourge to go with the 1 I have to represent the Sweeps.

News Credits: 9 · by **Sowndwave76** » Thu Oct 01, 2020 9:35 pm

-WonkoTheSane- wrote:On another note, I think Scourge looks really good, Possibly the best Scourge yet.
I do wonder though, How many people are planning to buy three of him, One for Scourge, Two for the Sweeps.

Depending on what else comes from this line, I really will consider getting 3... As I said in my previous post, it's difficult for me to see how a future version (in a regular release line) of this guy could be substantially better than this one.

What I wonder is what Hastak is thinking; making figures that are this good may mean more and more people are with me in finally being able to say, "This is an incredible figure... And now I'm freed from ever spending another dime on any other figure of this character... Hastak is going be getting less and less of my money from now on".

Makes me think of TR Galvatron... Finally a voyager, most of him looked really solid, and people bit... But I don't believe that Hasbro was thinking, "Well people, this is it... This is THE Galvatron that everyone will buy and love forever... Looks like we can close the design book on this guy".
I'm sure a lot of people do like that figure. But Hasbro probably knew going into that release, "Yeah, we stand behind this, but the head gimmick IS a bit of a compromise... Oh well, looks like in a few years we'll get some more money for another version".
Which is not to suggest this is some new insight. Improvements as well as gimmicks have provided some variety to core characters.
Just interesting to think that sooner than later people won't really want new versions of some of these characters because we're getting to the point where figures won't be substantially better.
And for someone like me who's not into gimmicks, seems like ER and SS86 will in some ways be the final chapter of my collection.

News Credits: 1 · by **Rtron** » Thu Oct 01, 2020 9:40 pm

I wouldn't worry too much about their profits. The thing is, now that they have the "definitive" version of scourge, as you say, they can just reissue him when they think there's been enough of a customer turnover. And without having to spend money designing a new one.

News Credits: 100 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Fri Oct 02, 2020 12:19 am

Rodimus Prime wrote:
-WonkoTheSane- wrote:How many people are planning to buy three of him, One for Scourge, Two for the Sweeps.
I'm gonna get 1 Scourge and buy another TR Scourge to go with the 1 I have to represent the Sweeps.

I plan to get one Scourge and one K. Cyclonus to counter my old Generations/Classics ones. The CW and TR ones don't count because gimmicks.

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Fri Oct 02, 2020 3:57 am

Sowndwave76 wrote:
-WonkoTheSane- wrote:On another note, I think Scourge looks really good, Possibly the best Scourge yet.
I do wonder though, How many people are planning to buy three of him, One for Scourge, Two for the Sweeps.

Depending on what else comes from this line, I really will consider getting 3... As I said in my previous post, it's difficult for me to see how a future version (in a regular release line) of this guy could be substantially better than this one.

What I wonder is what Hastak is thinking; making figures that are this good may mean more and more people are with me in finally being able to say, "This is an incredible figure... And now I'm freed from ever spending another dime on any other figure of this character... Hastak is going be getting less and less of my money from now on".

Makes me think of TR Galvatron... Finally a voyager, most of him looked really solid, and people bit... But I don't believe that Hasbro was thinking, "Well people, this is it... This is THE Galvatron that everyone will buy and love forever... Looks like we can close the design book on this guy".
I'm sure a lot of people do like that figure. But Hasbro probably knew going into that release, "Yeah, we stand behind this, but the head gimmick IS a bit of a compromise... Oh well, looks like in a few years we'll get some more money for another version".
Which is not to suggest this is some new insight. Improvements as well as gimmicks have provided some variety to core characters.
Just interesting to think that sooner than later people won't really want new versions of some of these characters because we're getting to the point where figures won't be substantially better.
And for someone like me who's not into gimmicks, seems like ER and SS86 will in some ways be the final chapter of my collection.

Personally I think its great that they're making definitive toys of these as it means they can soon focus on new characters, or new versions of old characters (think Starscream as an F22 Raptor but G1 is robot mode)

What they also have to do (which will be harder to achieve) is making fans (old and new) love these new characters like kids did in 84.

News Credits: 1642 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Fri Oct 02, 2020 6:48 am

Rodimus Prime wrote:
-WonkoTheSane- wrote:How many people are planning to buy three of him, One for Scourge, Two for the Sweeps.
I'm gonna get 1 Scourge and buy another TR Scourge to go with the 1 I have to represent the Sweeps.

When Scourge is officially revealed, PM me, depending on how good this one is I might sell you my TR one and pick up this new one (I say officially because I do not watch PVP or Tonton reviews, and I wait for actual product stuff instead of leaked samples)

News Credits: 10 · by **sol magnus** » Fri Oct 02, 2020 8:36 am

Rodimus Prime wrote:
-WonkoTheSane- wrote:How many people are planning to buy three of him, One for Scourge, Two for the Sweeps.
I'm gonna get 1 Scourge and buy another TR Scourge to go with the 1 I have to represent the Sweeps.

I was thinking something along those lines.

News Credits: 65 · by **Wolfman Jake** » Fri Oct 02, 2020 11:02 am

-WonkoTheSane- wrote:
bvzxa wrote:PvP and TT have been trying to sell these stolen toys after they review them to other people for 5 times the price.

Yikes.

On another note, I think Scourge looks really good, Possibly the best Scourge yet.
I do wonder though, How many people are planning to buy three of him, One for Scourge, Two for the Sweeps.

I'll be buying FOUR Studio Series Scourges. One to be Scourge proper, and THREE duplicates for the Sweeps. When I army build, three is usually the magic number for me to represent a "hoard" of a character, apart from the character itself. I've got TAV Shrapnel and Bombshell with Legends Kickback as my main Insecticons, and then three each of T30 Shrapnel, CW Bombshell, and TR Kickback for the Insecticon clone swarm.

by **TilAllAreOne** » Fri Oct 02, 2020 12:00 pm

Forgive me if I missed it, but is the 86 line going to be a store exclusive line? Do we have any details on when they're supposed to be out, or which characters are going to be in the lineup? (I've seen the reviews on Hot Rod, Kup & Scourge.) Thanks guys.

News Credits: 4835 · by **william-james88** » Fri Oct 02, 2020 12:37 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
o.supreme wrote:They should release Glavatron in Rescue Bots just to complete the randomness of it all.
Sorry. No Decepticons allowed in that line.

Really?
Was the not enough to show that I was being cheeky with him?

Nope, it's something I can see the networks and retailers demanding in a kids line.
In all seriousness, it's probably just something that goes without saying, but I've no sources to confirm it.

The do have villain toys though, so at least there's that.

News Credits: 4835 · by **william-james88** » Fri Oct 02, 2020 12:38 pm

-WonkoTheSane- wrote:
bvzxa wrote:PvP and TT have been trying to sell these stolen toys after they review them to other people for 5 times the price.

Yikes.

On another note, I think Scourge looks really good, Possibly the best Scourge yet.
I do wonder though, How many people are planning to buy three of him, One for Scourge, Two for the Sweeps.

The fact that this is the third sweep mold we have means I have more than enough to stand behind him.

Anyways, Canada finally got all the SS constructicons at brick and mortar retail.

So...

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Fri Oct 02, 2020 5:26 pm

TilAllAreOne wrote:Forgive me if I missed it, but is the 86 line going to be a store exclusive line? Do we have any details on when they're supposed to be out, or which characters are going to be in the lineup? (I've seen the reviews on Hot Rod, Kup & Scourge.) Thanks guys.

As far as we all know, it's still standard retail. It's not a separate line from the normal Studio Series, they're just adding characters from the 1986 movie to the main Studio Series line alongside the live action movie characters.

News Credits: 61 · by **EvasionModeBumblebee** » Fri Oct 02, 2020 6:26 pm

william-james88 wrote:
-WonkoTheSane- wrote:
bvzxa wrote:PvP and TT have been trying to sell these stolen toys after they review them to other people for 5 times the price.

Yikes.

On another note, I think Scourge looks really good, Possibly the best Scourge yet.
I do wonder though, How many people are planning to buy three of him, One for Scourge, Two for the Sweeps.

The fact that this is the third sweep mold we have means I have more than enough to stand behind him.

Anyways, Canada finally got all the SS constructicons at brick and mortar retail.

So...

Sweet! What do you think now that you have them combined?

News Credits: 9 · by **Sowndwave76** » Fri Oct 02, 2020 11:02 pm

Rtron wrote:I wouldn't worry too much about their profits. The thing is, now that they have the "definitive" version of scourge, as you say, they can just reissue him when they think there's been enough of a customer turnover. And without having to spend money designing a new one.

I'm not at all worried about their profits... I don't know where that came from.
And while I stand by what I said about this being one of those figures that may be the last of the character that I ever buy, I tend to believe that it's part of a company's mission to continue making new products, or upgrades/improvements to their products.
Even with these outstanding SS86 figures, I find it difficult to believe that they'll be reissued.
Obviously it's possible, I just don't think it's very likely.
No matter if "customer turnover" is 3, 5, or 10 years down the road.
Yeah initially that would save them some money, but I'm not sure that would make much money either.

News Credits: 1642 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 11:47 am

I can finally join in on the "thought he could hide" jokes

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 2:49 pm

Greetings Seibertronians! We have a beast of a story to share with you today! Fellow Seibertron user, -WonkoTheSane-, has sent us word that the 'Jiibann' Facebook page have gotten their hands on the yet-to-be-offically announced, Transformers Studio Series 69 Revenge of the Fallen Devastator box set! The gargantuan set includes all the Constructicons you need to combine into Devastator, but replaces Rampage with Skip Jack.

The Facebook page have taken a wealth of photos of the toys which prove there is in fact paint differences between the individual releases and the boxed version. Here are the differences in -WonkoTheSane-'s own words:

-WonkoTheSane- wrote:new paint apps on Devastator's face (silver accents on eyebrow region, Extra red above eyebrow region, extra silver beneath eyes, And extra bronze paint roughly where nostrils would be) Additionally, There is new paint on both Scrapper and Long Haul, On Scrapper's shovels there is new dirt and weathering, And on the side of Long Haul's foot mode (and by extension, Truck mode) there is also new dirt and weathering.

Check out the images below:

What do you think of this release? Will you be wanting to pick this up? Or have you managed to track down the Constructicons elsewhere? Let us know in the Energon Pub and stay tuned to Seibertron for all the latest news and reviews!

by **Brutal brawl** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 2:59 pm

Time to sell my organs

News Credits: 2 · by **Nemesis Destron** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 3:00 pm

News Credits: 100 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 3:03 pm

Now to know where the Devy kit will be available and for how much.

News Credits: 4835 · by **william-james88** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 4:30 pm

EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:Sweet! What do you think now that you have them combined?

I'll be honest, I preffer them not combined. The combined mode in bipedal mode is solid though, but I can't really play around with it much, unlike other combiners which pose much better (like his CW Counterpart). Still one heck of a feat.

News Credits: 1642 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 8:04 pm

Started messing around with my Blitzwing this afternoon, no photos yet, but he is a really fun robot. The jet mode is a little wonky and I still await my F4 Phantom jet mode, but the robot mode is really solid, and so expressive. I love the accessories and the way they work, and the wings posability is nice. They need exceptionally well with him, glad we finally got a Bee movie figure they did great on the first time.

Also got a mace for Grimlock today, it makes him look even more imposing

News Credits: 1 · by **YRQRM0** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 8:44 pm

That's a disappointingly little amount of new paint. I was hoping either no changes, or super significant ones that some of them desperately need. That, and maybe some missile launchers for the shoulders.

Like KapikoArt on Facebook · by **KapikoArt** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 9:28 pm

According to TF Source, it's supposed to come with an array of accessories and weapons for $499.
I paid for all new Constructicons $311 all together at Target and Walmart just last week.
Many of the figures are on sale now. Overload is for $29.99 as well as Skipjack, for instance, that is more movie accurate with it's yellow as the Devastator's left foot.
In my opinion, the extra paint job (not really good) is not worth an additional $188.
I guess we'll have to wait for the stores like Target to see the friendlier prices. They are usually lower than online stores.

by **PetesSuperRobots** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 11:56 pm

I have always been bothered with Studio series Blitzwing not having a third mode as Triple changers should, so I went ahead and came up with....

Studio series Blitzwing Cybertronian machine gun emplacement!

https://petessuperrobots.blogspot.com/2 ... e-gun.html

News Credits: 54 · by **Deadput** » Sun Oct 04, 2020 7:41 am

PetesSuperRobots wrote:I have always been bothered with Studio series Blitzwing not having a third mode as Triple changers should, so I went ahead and came up with....

Studio series Blitzwing Cybertronian machine gun emplacement!

https://petessuperrobots.blogspot.com/2 ... e-gun.html

Movie Blitzwing wasn't a triple changer so why would his toy be one?