The Energon Pub

[First-Aid]

I've heard rumours that in Transformers One the characters will gradually upgrade and evolve from those leaked, not all that transformer looking designs that have done the rounds .

Where can I find those designs? This is the first I'm hearing of them.

That would sort of explain the changes in the bots during each of the movies, slowing upgrading and making small changes. I mean, obviously, outside of selling new toys...

[Sabrblade]

I've heard rumours that in Transformers One the characters will gradually upgrade and evolve from those leaked, not all that transformer looking designs that have done the rounds .

Where can I find those designs? This is the first I'm hearing of them.

In this news article, but read the article very carefully, as what is pictured may not be fully representative what will be in the finalized version of the movie, as it was hand-drawn by a fan from memory.

[#1 Signal Lancer fan]

I've heard rumours that in Transformers One the characters will gradually upgrade and evolve from those leaked, not all that transformer looking designs that have done the rounds .

Where can I find those designs? This is the first I'm hearing of them.

In this news article, but read the article very carefully, as what is pictured may not be fully representative what will be in the finalized version of the movie, as it was hand-drawn by a fan from memory.

That's interesting. There's a lot of similarity between the two designs and they're lacking any kibble. I wonder if maybe this is before they actually have the ability to Transform?

Of course, that could just be because of the artist's drawing style.

[DeathReviews]

I also thought that the SS86 Constructicons would be cartoon-style repaints of the CW figures. Now I'm not so sure. I always thought CW Devestator was pretty good and planned to keep him indefinitely. We'll have to wait and see what they do with these SS86 versions...

[o.supreme]

I love the UW version I have. As Devastator they look great. The individual bot modes are an acquired preference I get that. They scale perfectly with Siege Omega Supreme. The KO CW version scaled down works great with other CW/UW/PotP/Selects Combiners.

Obviously the ss86 version will be wildly faithful to how they appeared in TF:TM (which is a plus), but somehow I think the combined mode will be slightly smaller than CW/UW Dev, unless they plan to make the voyagers as big as they were a few yeas ago, considering many modern voyagers are smaller.

[Nemesis Primal]

Honestly, nothing in this selection for me really (unless Sentinel Prime ends up looking really good and there's no indication a Legacy/Generations Animated one is on the way), but I'm excited on everyone else's behalf, that's a pretty crazy selection.

Worth noting the lack of Commander and Core listings, though, so there's still potential they'll get me by sneaking out another cassette or something (although if the Commander ends up being some kind of multipack of the remaining Devastator bots & kibble, I imagine some members here might legitimately explode).

[Rtron]

Very excited to see Bayverse on the listings again! There's no Core listings, so I'll keep holding out hope for a Frenzy and/or Dispensor at that price point. Also, CAN'T WAIT for Studio Series 86 Constructicons!. I'll bet Hook and Long Haul will be Leader class.

[o.supreme]

I am usually wrong...but I have a feeling the CC for 2025 SS86 is going to be some sort of variant of Kingdom Rodimus. Given the pattern started:

2023 - Ultra Magnus
2024 - Optimus Prime
2025 - Rodimus Prime ??

I mean I don't know how you can make the Kingdom Toy more "TF:TM movie accurate", but I'm sure more scrutinizing cinephiles might have thing or two to change. I would think that Re-releases of Kingdom Galvatron & Cyclonus would sneak there way into SS86 as well (since it will have been 4 years by then), but maybe they are saving those for 2026, and the films 40th anniversary?

[Sabrblade]

I am usually wrong...but I have a feeling the CC for 2025 SS86 is going to be some sort of variant of Kingdom Rodimus. Given the pattern started:

2023 - Ultra Magnus
2024 - Optimus Prime
2025 - Rodimus Prime ??

I mean I don't know how you can make the Kingdom Toy more "TF:TM movie accurate", but I'm sure more scrutinizing cinephiles might have thing or two to change. I would think that Re-releases of Kingdom Galvatron & Cyclonus would sneak there way into SS86 as well (since it will have been 4 years by then), but maybe they are saving those for 2026, and the films 40th anniversary?

Oh, please, no! Legacy Galvatron (who's just a cleaned-up and correctly-assembled version of Kingdom Galvatron) is still clogging all the shelves and just won't go away. A third retail release of that figure is the last thing we need.

[cloudballoon]

Impressive how balanced the list is.

I want that Hatchet (along with the eventual Swoop & Sandstorm) and I'm "done" collecting TF as "needed must-haves" to complete my list of G1/live action movies collection. After those, I only buy things out of "want." I'm in a kind of burned out mode from collecting more TFs. No shelf space, and I really hate storing toys in boxes. But if the engineering is vastly improved, I'll replace the old ones, like MV4 OP. I want a CW sized Devastator & Predaking to replace the Titans, so I hope SS86 Constructicons follows Legacy Menasor's footsteps. The rest I'm not too excited about.

[o.supreme]

Oh, please, no! Legacy Galvatron (who's just a cleaned-up and correctly-assembled version of Kingdom Galvatron) is still clogging all the shelves and just won't go away. A third retail release of that figure is the last thing we need.

... I'm not thrilled with the prospect either. However representations of characters in the Main Generations line that appeared in TF:TM over the last 3-4 years that I thought were "good enough", and wouldn't need to appear also in the SS86 line, are apparently doing so... So who knows?

[Sowndwave76]

I am really excited about the SS86 Constructicons...
I highly doubt it is a repainted set of the CW figures. In fact, I'll be disappointed if that's the case.
What I'm really interested to hear is the plan for Hook and Long Haul.
I don't think both will be leader class.

Forearms, hands, the chest plate, crotch plate, blaster, possibly upper thighs, and the head... Is all of that $20 worth?
Either way, Hook as an individual figure has to be a triple-changer. And I'm betting each figure will come with a small blaster.
So Hook is a voyager at least.
The same can be said about Long Haul.
So packing in anything extra beyond a weapon pushes them out of voyager class.
I'm hoping that all of the extras come with one of these guys.
Between these figures being released as 2 deluxes, 3 voyagers, and 1 leader, it would be possible for all 6 to land in the same year.
If not that, a year and a half.
AMEN!

I also don't see this set including a CC release. This class should be for single, non-combing characters.
Motormaster was an exception, mainly because there was no way to pull that off with a leader class budget.

One fear I have is that something is going to be sacrificed so that the extra parts for Devastator have some gimmicky use when these guys aren't combined.

I'm not looking past SS86 Swoop already, but man, word about these Constructicons has me excited again about TF.

[o.supreme]

I am really excited about the SS86 Constructicons...
I highly doubt it is a repainted set of the CW figures. In fact, I'll be disappointed if that's the case.

Well considering the arms are deluxes & the legs are voyagers, that pretty much confirms it cant be a repaint/retool of CW/UW Constructicons. We dont know what Hook or Long Haul will be. One could be a voyager, and the other a leader, or Both small leaders, or large voyagers...


Also, there appear to be 2 more Leaders found. one will excite many, the other..... to Sabre I apologize for putting it out there...

Jtprime17

Found 2 more listings for you y’all.

Tra Gen Studio series Ldr 86 Galvatron
Product Number: G0481

Tra Gen Studio series Ldr 86 Megatron
Product Number: G0484

So I'm sure for the next year-and-a-half until the first images are leaked, there will be endless debate about SS86 Megatron. But with the recent BB Movie Concept having a hidden gun mode, gives me hope.

[Sabrblade]

Tra Gen Studio series Ldr 86 Galvatron
Product Number: G0481

[Sowndwave76]

I am really excited about the SS86 Constructicons...
I highly doubt it is a repainted set of the CW figures. In fact, I'll be disappointed if that's the case.

Well considering the arms are deluxes & the legs are voyagers, that pretty much confirms it cant be a repaint/retool of CW/UW Constructicons. We dont know what Hook or Long Haul will be. One could be a voyager, and the other a leader, or Both small leaders, or large voyagers...


Also, there appear to be 2 more Leaders found. one will excite many, the other..... to Sabre I apologize for putting it out there...

Jtprime17

Found 2 more listings for you y’all.

Tra Gen Studio series Ldr 86 Galvatron
Product Number: G0481

Tra Gen Studio series Ldr 86 Megatron
Product Number: G0484

So I'm sure for the next year-and-a-half until the first images are leaked, there will be endless debate about SS86 Megatron. But with the recent BB Movie Concept having a hidden gun mode, gives me hope.

Wow…
This is pretty big news.
First, I’m hoping Galvatron is a tone of Blue-Violet rather than the current Legacy Red-Violet.
And I’m not going to speculate much about Megatron, but I hope Hastak took the logical approach some of us have mentioned by focusing on the bot mode & letting the alt mode be whatever. If it can’t be a pistol, then no one is really going to care much anyway. What would be hilarious is a “hidden gun” alt mode which is actually the real alt mode; but the publicized alt mode being some random configuration.
Either way, they should be able to have a gun mode accessory that is G1 accurate and in-scale with other figures like Starscream and Soundwave.
Man, between these and the Constructicons, ‘25 looks to be a solid year for TF.

[Rodimus Prime]

I wonder what Hasbro's highest priority is regarding the SS86 line, proper scale among figures, or screen accurate appearance?

If it's scale, then the CW Constructicons are perfect for the line because they scale well with the Dinobots. If it's appearance, then a whole new set of them is most likely.

As for the Kingdom Rodimus being the next CC after Optimus, I hope not. He wouldn't be screen accurate either in transformation or robot size.

I was really hoping we would get an all new CC Astrotrain for SS86. The Siege leader is cheeks.

[chuckdawg1999]

With the possibility of the Constructicons taking two years to complete, it actually gives some weight to my theory that the SS86 line will end with the 40th anniversary of the movie.

[-Kanrabat-]

I'll be sure to not miss a single one of these Constructicons.

My KO undersized CW Devastator is nice, but the SS86 will definitely be better.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

With the possibility of the Constructicons taking two years to complete, it actually gives some weight to my theory that the SS86 line will end with the 40th anniversary of the movie.

Rumor is the missing 2 Constructicons are the missing commander slot, and they will come with all the accessories ala Legacy Menasor, where there is a lot of faking it for cartoon accuracy.

Which is a sad thought, yet another year to wait to see what they could do with a live action commander

[Rtron]

Fortunately, the design team values appearance over scale, so I doubt these will be repaints, specially since the Combiner Wars set was developed with a Titan price point in mind, and they probably don't align AT ALL with modern deluxe/voyager/leader pricepoints. REally, there's no way these won't be new molds. I wouldn't give much credence to the commander two pack theory either, although that's way more feasible. It could happen, but I suspect it will be just Hook and Long haul as leaders.

Super glad to see 86 Megatron, super confused by 86 Galvatron. I'm guessing he's a somehow even more movie accurate repaint, given the Kingdom mold is already pretty much perfect, sculpt-wise. Really hyped for Megatron though, I hope they really put the focus on giving him a near perfect robot mode, even if that makes his alt mode be some half assed bullshit, since he won't have his real alt-mode anyway. Those who are expecting for a secret gun mode, get ready to be disappointed, because there's seriously no way Hasbro will sell a toy that transforms into a realistic gun.

[-Kanrabat-]

With the possibility of the Constructicons taking two years to complete, it actually gives some weight to my theory that the SS86 line will end with the 40th anniversary of the movie.

Rumor is the missing 2 Constructicons are the missing commander slot, and they will come with all the accessories ala Legacy Menasor, where there is a lot of faking it for cartoon accuracy.

Which is a sad thought, yet another year to wait to see what they could do with a live action commander

Sad to not see a Bay Commander for sure, but if the SS Commander slot is for a 2 pack with all the accessories, it would be fine. However, I have a sneaking suspicion that Longhaul will be a leader, while Hightower (the crane guy) will be a "leader" inside the Commander box with all the combining bits.

[Gauntlet101010]

86 Megatron? Sign me up. I do wonder how they'll approach it. Probably a tank. ER Megatron was a disgrace and, while I appreciate Siege for what it is, I'm ready for a new approach. But I'd like them to really step up their game on this one. Don't leave us wanting more.

86 Galvatron? I mean ... Galvatron is one of my favorite TFs ever so I'll take it, but I gotta ask: why? I have the fixed Kingdom version. It's pretty solid and it has a repack in Earthrise with a clean version already. Maybe this is another repack? If it's the same mold then I'll take a pass.

[Emerje]

With the possibility of the Constructicons taking two years to complete, it actually gives some weight to my theory that the SS86 line will end with the 40th anniversary of the movie.

Rumor is the missing 2 Constructicons are the missing commander slot, and they will come with all the accessories ala Legacy Menasor, where there is a lot of faking it for cartoon accuracy.

Which is a sad thought, yet another year to wait to see what they could do with a live action commander

Sad to not see a Bay Commander for sure, but if the SS Commander slot is for a 2 pack with all the accessories, it would be fine. However, I have a sneaking suspicion that Longhaul will be a leader, while Hightower (the crane guy) will be a "leader" inside the Commander box with all the combining bits.

Problem with doing a Bayverse Commander is convincing one of the suits at Hasbro to let it happen. Ultra Magnus, Prime and some Constructicons is a pretty easy sell, but a nobody like Devcon (who I believe Evan or maybe Mark said they wanted to do) doesn't really stand a chance at that price point when G1 characters have a better chance.

Emerje

[First-Aid]

86 Megatron? Sign me up. I do wonder how they'll approach it. Probably a tank. ER Megatron was a disgrace and, while I appreciate Siege for what it is, I'm ready for a new approach. But I'd like them to really step up their game on this one. Don't leave us wanting more.

Right...because Transfans will ALWAYS be completely happy with what's released.

Honestly, the whininess and neediness of TF fans is second only to Star Wars fans as far as their concepts of accuracy and what they want. See the current line for what that influence has done, Geewunning amazing Prime and Animated designs.

[Gauntlet101010]

86 Megatron? Sign me up. I do wonder how they'll approach it. Probably a tank. ER Megatron was a disgrace and, while I appreciate Siege for what it is, I'm ready for a new approach. But I'd like them to really step up their game on this one. Don't leave us wanting more.

Right...because Transfans will ALWAYS be completely happy with what's released.

Honestly, the whininess and neediness of TF fans is second only to Star Wars fans as far as their concepts of accuracy and what they want. See the current line for what that influence has done, Geewunning amazing Prime and Animated designs.

I don't think any fan actually asked for G1ing Prime or Animated designs, though.

What I mean is, there was several versions of Siege Megatron released. I'm glad I hesitated enough to catch the window on the Netflix release. It's paintjob it probably the best. But, even then, the Spoiler Megatron is mostly the same with a new accessory. So, like ... they beat their already great release shortly after it was released.

Galvatron is another example. Misassembled V1 followed by a correct V2 and a clean ER version. I mean ... just get it right the first time. The first time. Not the third time. The first time.