The Energon Pub

[Rodimus Prime]

They might be thinking a redeco is a better way to get more sales from the mold than just repacking Scourge, given his shelfwarming during Titans Return.

But how much would they change? SS prides itself on being screen accurate, so were the Sweeps different than Scourge?

I would bet on them using this deco:

Isn't that too far off the screen accuracy? I think if the deco got changed, it would be just darker or lighter blues.

As for the voyager/deluxe debate, you're probably right that it costs Hasbro less to just redeco the Scourge figure and get more out of the same mold, but I don't think it would sell as many units as a voyager at $30 as it would as a deluxe at $20. But maybe the price difference and the savings on not having to design a new mold would make up for it.

Personally, I'll buy Scourge and I already have a TR Scourge and I'll get 1 more to act as Sweeps, because I also think Scourge should have a distinction as the leader by being bigger and looking a bit different.

My other question is whether they will do the same thing with Cyclonus and give him his "armada" from TF:TM, but that maybe a discussion for the Kingdom thread.

[Lore Keeper]

I don't think anyone's in the hole for buying multiple Scourges to be Sweeps, that's still valid. Especially since this is probably going to be a redeco and thus a bit less screen-accurate.

Wreck-Gar being a Voyager makes sense to me. There's parts count to think about with his G1 design, and it would put him at a good size compared to SIEGE Springer.

If that green guy really is Thrust, he looks like a straight repaint of Blitzwing.

I wonder about the SS86 TF:TM Sweep. Didn't the Sweeps looks just like Scourge? Would this be some retool of Scourge then? Obviously it's meant to be a troop builder, so I'm not sure if Voyager class was smart. Deluxe would have been better.

Easier to afford for troop-building certainly, but it would have made Scourge come up short next to Galvatron as the Titans Return mold does, and making a separate Deluxe mold for the Sweeps wouldn't milk the Scourge mold further.

They might be thinking a redeco is a better way to get more sales from the mold than just repacking Scourge, given his shelfwarming during Titans Return.

I would bet on them using this deco:


And a new head with a face based on this:


Honestly though with Voyager-size (or larger) army-builder types, I think it would be good if HasTak made cheap model kit counterparts.

On the subject of figures we already know things about, I'm guessing that SS86 Blurr cannot use the prow of his car mode as a shield.

Blurr's prow is technically detachable, but it's not meant to come off and doesn't have any way to attach to his arm or be held.

[ZeldaTheSwordsman]

They might be thinking a redeco is a better way to get more sales from the mold than just repacking Scourge, given his shelfwarming during Titans Return.

But how much would they change? SS prides itself on being screen accurate, so were the Sweeps different than Scourge?

I would bet on them using this deco:
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Isn't that too far off the screen accuracy? I think if the deco got changed, it would be just darker or lighter blues.

They don't seem to care as much with the mold-milk redecoes - just look at Shadow Raider. They also blew it super hard with Crankcase (redecoing him from Crowbar instead of Berserker). The fact that they're producing a "Sweep" release at all instead of just repacking Scourge says to me that accuracy is being suborned for maximizing profit.

I really do think TR Scourge shelfwarming might be playing a role in their going this route.

As for the voyager/deluxe debate, you're probably right that it costs Hasbro less to just redeco the Scourge figure and get more out of the same mold, but I don't think it would sell as many units as a voyager at $30 as it would as a deluxe at $20. But maybe the price difference and the savings on not having to design a new mold would make up for it.

Well, the whole point of HasTak even doing a separate Sweep release in the first place would be to try and squeeze more money out of the Scourge mold.

However it turns out.. between the original Scourge release and this Sweep release I want a total of at least five. One to be Scourge himself, four for the four Sweeps who draw and quarter Ultra Magnus.

On the subject of figures we already know things about, I'm guessing that SS86 Blurr cannot use the prow of his car mode as a shield.

Blurr's prow is technically detachable, but it's not meant to come off and doesn't have any way to attach to his arm or be held.

Damn.
Yeah, definitely sticking to my repainted TR Blurr.

[Sentinel_Primal]

Wreck-Gar will need to be good to interest me. Thrust may be a buy though depending on colors/headsculpt

[Rodimus Prime]

I want Scourge and 4 Sweeps

Are you sure it was 4 Sweeps and not Scourge and 3 sweeps? I know Galvatron gave the command "Sweeps, terminate him!" but Scourge could have participated. It's been a while since I've seen TF:TM. At least a month.

[Gauntlet101010]

I'll take a Sweep or two. I can't imaging they'll look too different from the regular Scourge. Hopefully it's just be a minor change. As fun as a mustacioed or clean shaven Sweep was I'd prefer a more movie accurate look.

I'll get Wreck-Gar too. Why not?

[TF-fan kev777]

On the subject of figures we already know things about, I'm guessing that SS86 Blurr cannot use the prow of his car mode as a shield.

That would be correct.

[sol magnus]

I want Scourge and 4 Sweeps

Are you sure it was 4 Sweeps and not Scourge and 3 sweeps? I know Galvatron gave the command "Sweeps, terminate him!" but Scourge could have participated. It's been a while since I've seen TF:TM. At least a month.

That was my thought. In the movie there were four. Scourge and the three Sweeps. The show didn't seem to know who all were the sweeps so there were more. I'm good with three, but I'm gonna have two Scourges to sell off now. Depending on whether I feel up to buying three more Voyagers I technically already have.

[TulioDude]

Seeing that Movie Thrust is an Armada reference warms my heart.

[sol magnus]

[DISCHARGE]

On the subject of figures we already know things about, I'm guessing that SS86 Blurr cannot use the prow of his car mode as a shield.

That would be correct.

[TF-fan kev777]

I stand corrected, that is pretty sweet.

[blackeyedprime]

I didnt think Thrust was in the Bee film, green somebody looks like he will be a good figure tho :p

The pics of sharkticon with the painted teeth makes me shake my head at Haslabs Unicron

[RodimusConvoy13]

I don’t think that’s a straight out of the box Sharkticon. I’m looking at my Hasbro one and the eyes are clear green and the teeth are unpainted.

[sol magnus]

I don’t think that’s a straight out of the box Sharkticon. I’m looking at my Hasbro one and the eyes are clear green and the teeth are unpainted.

That guy looks like he has a couple of figures with painted silver non-factory.

[DISCHARGE]

I don’t think that’s a straight out of the box Sharkticon. I’m looking at my Hasbro one and the eyes are clear green and the teeth are unpainted.

That guy looks like he has a couple of figures with painted silver non-factory.

That's the Cyberverse Sharkticon. Untouched.

But yeas Molotow chrome pens make toys better.

[RodimusConvoy13]

I don’t think that’s a straight out of the box Sharkticon. I’m looking at my Hasbro one and the eyes are clear green and the teeth are unpainted.

That guy looks like he has a couple of figures with painted silver non-factory.

That's the Cyberverse Sharkticon. Untouched.

But yeas Molotow chrome pens make toys better.

That they do. I used one on my Classified Cobra Commander and Viper faceplates.

[DISCHARGE]

[Evil Eye]

Molotow chrome markers are great, they don't do so hot over large areas though. Unless, of course, you use the refills through an airbrush thinned with Mr. Levelling Thinner, then it's THE best chrome on the market bar none.

[DISCHARGE]

I gave Megatron an all over.. I'm no pro, but the pens worked real well.

[Sowndwave76]

:-D

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NICE!!!!

Man, I hope I find him in-store soon!

[Bombshell0001]

Not happy that there is no dinobot news !!!!

[Razorbeast88]

Not happy that there is no dinobot news !!!!

Seconded. I want images of Slag already, and I want to know for certain if the other 3 dinobots will be leader class as well, I would imagine swoop can be a voyager

[Sowndwave76]

Not happy that there is no dinobot news !!!!

Seconded. I want images of Slag already, and I want to know for certain if the other 3 dinobots will be leader class as well, I would imagine swoop can be a voyager

Amen to this.
Seriously.
I’m even wanting Swoop to be leader class. If not, he should be a really large Voyager...
In my mind (& memory), he’s not substantially smaller than the other 4. & if this means his Dino mode is slightly too big, so be it!!
I also don’t care if the other Dinobots end up being in a different line; as long as the quality is there, who cares if the SS86 name, packaging, etc. ends?
The more I’ve thought about this, the more I’ve realized how excited I am about this possibility finally becoming reality in the next couple years...
It’s just been way too long of a wait.
Yeah, all 5 may end up totaling $250, but if the others can deliver like this SS86 Grimlock, I’m all in.

[Razorbeast88]

Not happy that there is no dinobot news !!!!

Seconded. I want images of Slag already, and I want to know for certain if the other 3 dinobots will be leader class as well, I would imagine swoop can be a voyager

Amen to this.
Seriously.
I’m even wanting Swoop to be leader class. If not, he should be a really large Voyager...
In my mind (& memory), he’s not substantially smaller than the other 4. & if this means his Dino mode is slightly too big, so be it!!
I also don’t care if the other Dinobots end up being in a different line; as long as the quality is there, who cares if the SS86 name, packaging, etc. ends?
The more I’ve thought about this, the more I’ve realized how excited I am about this possibility finally becoming reality in the next couple years...
It’s just been way too long of a wait.
Yeah, all 5 may end up totaling $250, but if the others can deliver like this SS86 Grimlock, I’m all in.

I don't think he's much smaller than the others either, I'd love a big Dino mode for Swoop, they can go all out with the wings. That reminds me of seeing swoop on his back in Dino mode flapping his wings attempting to get up lol I don't remember if that was the movie or the cartoon. I dont care if they're in a different line either, exactly like you said its about the quality. Cyclonus and Scourge are in different lines and it makes no difference to me, they're both great.
I've never had all of the dinobots, mostly because there was never a set of them that was worth it. If the other 4 are like Grimlock though, I won't hesitate one bit.
If anything I'm still deciding whether or not I'll only get the other 4 or still get grimlock, since I already have the MP version and all the figures coming out are gonna do me some damage as it is