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News Credits: 1 · by **durroth** » Wed Nov 23, 2022 5:55 pm

I am honestly struggling to think of how they can top the previous WfC Optimus, the deluxe had amazing engineering and besides the magazine on the side of the gun needing a stronger spring because its as touch sensitive as unite frenzy and rumble its already an amazing figure. I can only assume the voyager will be roughly the same size with the engineering they'll need to make this worth replacing him. *FoC* Optimus however... please hasbro.

News Credits: 11 · by **Overcracker** » Wed Nov 23, 2022 6:19 pm

durroth wrote:I am honestly struggling to think of how they can top the previous WfC Optimus, the deluxe had amazing engineering and besides the magazine on the side of the gun needing a stronger spring because its as touch sensitive as unite frenzy and rumble its already an amazing figure. I can only assume the voyager will be roughly the same size with the engineering they'll need to make this worth replacing him. *FoC* Optimus however... please hasbro.

Ohh, they can improve it. WFC Prime has a super fiddly and overly convoluted transformation.

Cyber Truck mode is o.k, and robot mode looks fine, but going form one to the other is not pleasant.
An update to that would be appreciated.

FOC was a simpler more intuitive transformation that I think works much better and is much better experience overall.

Transformers Fall of Cybertron Optimus Prime Gallery

News Credits: 5 · by **Whirlkick** » Wed Nov 23, 2022 6:37 pm

Thanks for this! Man, makes me so happy seeing the WFC game figures here! I've wanted them to give us more figures from that continuity for a decade!

I also would've preferred if they made Hatchet a jet like his original Commander figure. Not movie accurate, but such a cool alt form for our doggy friend!

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Wed Nov 23, 2022 6:50 pm

william-james88 wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:True. But for those people asking for a new/redux Metroplex. I'd say it would likely be this one.

That's doesnt make sense to me since the previous Metroplex was the one from WFC. We'd get a more g1 accurate Metroplex before revisiting a WFC Metroplex.

FOC Metroplex looks like this (click each to see full size):

That is NOT the Titan class toy's design:

News Credits: 100 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Wed Nov 23, 2022 7:12 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:True. But for those people asking for a new/redux Metroplex. I'd say it would likely be this one.

That's doesnt make sense to me since the previous Metroplex was the one from WFC. We'd get a more g1 accurate Metroplex before revisiting a WFC Metroplex.
FOC Metroplex looks like this (click each to see full size):

Exactly.
The old Titan Metroplex was not "G1" enough, and was certainly NOT "FOC".

Also, I would want an official FOC Omega Supreme and Triptycon. Both were absolutely fantastic in the games and they got solid 3P offerings. Having Hasbro complete and improve the toys of the Activision games would be awesome. A release of a remasters of those games on Steam and modern consoles would help.

News Credits: 1642 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Wed Nov 23, 2022 9:28 pm

william-james88 wrote:With our first look, yesterday, at two Studio Series toys coming out in 2023, I thought it would be a good time to consolidate all the listings we got to give you a full view of what is coming out next year in that line. It will be a mix of toys for characters from the Rise of the Beasts movie (labelled as TF7 in toy listings, two of which are still code names), War for Cybertron High Moon Game, 86 Movie Michael Bay films (of which there is only one so far). We do not know the full wave breakdown and that will always be subject to change, but below you will find the full list organized by price point. This does not include exclusive Studio Series toys like the upcoming Hatchet.

Core Class:

Tra Gen Studio series Core TF3 Bumblebee
Tra Gen Studio series 86 core Frenzy
Tra Gen Studio series 86 core Ironhide
Tra Gen studio series core TF7 code name Delta2
Tra Gen Studio series Core TF7 code name Hydra

Deluxe Class:

TRA Gen Studio Series DLX TF7 Bumblebee (Codename: George)
TRA Gen Studio Series DLX TF7 Airazor (Codename: Titan)
Tra Gen Studio series Dlx TF7 Mirage (Codename: Pluto)
Tra Gen Studio Series DLX TF7 Wheeljack (Codename: Barcelona)
Tra Gen Studio series Dlx TF7 Nightbird (Codename: Outlaw)
Tra Gen Studio series Dlx WFC Barricade
Tra Gen studio series Dlx WFC Bumblebee
Tra Gen studio series Dlx WFC Cliffjumper
Tra Gen Studio series 86 Dlx Brawn

Voyager Class:

TRA Gen Studio Series VOY TF7 Cheetor (Codename: Butch)
TRA Gen Studio Series VOY TF7 Battletrap (Codename: Appolo)
Tra Gen Studio series Voy TF7 Rhinox (Codename: Warrior)
Tra Gen Studio series Voy WFC Megatron
Tra Gen Studio series VOY WFC Optimus Prime
Tra Gen Studio series 86 voyager Ratchet

Leader Class:

Tra Gen Studio Series Leader TF7 Optimus Primal (Codename: Cyclops)
Tra Gen Studio Series Leader TF7 Scourge (Codename: Oscar)
Tra Gen Studio Series 86 Leader Snarl

The level of disappointment I have that there is still no Que, no live action dinobots, no TLK crew in 2023 is immeasurable. Guess I gotta hope for 2024...

News Credits: 61 · by **EvasionModeBumblebee** » Wed Nov 23, 2022 10:12 pm

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:The level of disappointment I have that there is still no Que, no live action dinobots, no TLK crew in 2023 is immeasurable. Guess I gotta hope for 2024...

Same here, but I think Buzzworthy might be coming in clutch with some Bayverse stuff next year, which would explain why we don't see much in these listings. We already know about NEST Ratchet and Bonecrusher, and Hatchet is also coming to Buzzworthy. Hopefully we see more, like Que!

by **cloudballoon** » Thu Nov 24, 2022 2:54 am

If the eventual Swoop is a Voyager size figure at Leader price, Hasbro better pack 5 swords as accessories. None of the Blitzwing/Shockwave crap.

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Thu Nov 24, 2022 5:24 am

cloudballoon wrote:If the eventual Swoop is a Voyager size figure at Leader price, Hasbro better pack 5 swords as accessories. None of the Blitzwing/Shockwave crap.

I don't think they will, the swords were never in the movie anyway. What I now think Swoop will be like is consistent in height with the others but leaner, allowing for his wings to be the size they need to be.

People always talk about the swords but then forget that they never appeared in the movie which this line is all about.

by **griftimus prime** » Thu Nov 24, 2022 7:20 am

damn battletrap looks good. flawless botmode

News Credits: 4835 · by **william-james88** » Thu Nov 24, 2022 8:06 am

cloudballoon wrote:If the eventual Swoop is a Voyager size figure at Leader price, Hasbro better pack 5 swords as accessories. None of the Blitzwing/Shockwave crap.

Swoop will be as tall as the others in robot mode, so it will be a leader class toy with a leader's height.

News Credits: 100 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Thu Nov 24, 2022 8:24 am

william-james88 wrote:
cloudballoon wrote:If the eventual Swoop is a Voyager size figure at Leader price, Hasbro better pack 5 swords as accessories. None of the Blitzwing/Shockwave crap.

Swoop will be as tall as the others in robot mode, so it will be a leader class toy with a leader's height.

He would also need to have a big wingspan with multiple joints.
That counts.

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Thu Nov 24, 2022 8:26 am

-Kanrabat- wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
cloudballoon wrote:If the eventual Swoop is a Voyager size figure at Leader price, Hasbro better pack 5 swords as accessories. None of the Blitzwing/Shockwave crap.

Swoop will be as tall as the others in robot mode, so it will be a leader class toy with a leader's height.

He would also need to have a big wingspan with multiple joints.
That counts.

He may just be thinner then the others while maintaining height

News Credits: 1642 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Thu Nov 24, 2022 11:14 am

EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:The level of disappointment I have that there is still no Que, no live action dinobots, no TLK crew in 2023 is immeasurable. Guess I gotta hope for 2024...

Same here, but I think Buzzworthy might be coming in clutch with some Bayverse stuff next year, which would explain why we don't see much in these listings. We already know about NEST Ratchet and Bonecrusher, and Hatchet is also coming to Buzzworthy. Hopefully we see more, like Que!

I'm hoping so! I want more, we're so close to getting all that i want from the movie lines from past movies, I want that satisfaction of finishing the on screen characters

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Thu Nov 24, 2022 11:34 am

-Kanrabat- wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
cloudballoon wrote:If the eventual Swoop is a Voyager size figure at Leader price, Hasbro better pack 5 swords as accessories. None of the Blitzwing/Shockwave crap.

Swoop will be as tall as the others in robot mode, so it will be a leader class toy with a leader's height.

He would also need to have a big wingspan with multiple joints.
That counts.

That won't be an issue since his wings fold up for robot mode, which is what main-line figures are packaged in nowadays.

News Credits: 4835 · by **william-james88** » Thu Nov 24, 2022 5:22 pm

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:The level of disappointment I have that there is still no Que, no live action dinobots, no TLK crew in 2023 is immeasurable. Guess I gotta hope for 2024...

Same here, but I think Buzzworthy might be coming in clutch with some Bayverse stuff next year, which would explain why we don't see much in these listings. We already know about NEST Ratchet and Bonecrusher, and Hatchet is also coming to Buzzworthy. Hopefully we see more, like Que!

I'm hoping so! I want more, we're so close to getting all that i want from the movie lines from past movies, I want that satisfaction of finishing the on screen characters

Do you include Devcon in that statement? Because I don't know when we'll get him.

Back to the two Airazors, someone made a great comment elsewhere saying that this was a situation like the First Edition figures in Prime where we had two completely different deluxes for the same characters (Arcee, Bumblebee, Cliffjumper and Vehicon). I found that a very apt comparison.

News Credits: 48 · by **Nemesis Primal** » Thu Nov 24, 2022 5:23 pm

ZeroWolf wrote:
cloudballoon wrote:If the eventual Swoop is a Voyager size figure at Leader price, Hasbro better pack 5 swords as accessories. None of the Blitzwing/Shockwave crap.

I don't think they will, the swords were never in the movie anyway. What I now think Swoop will be like is consistent in height with the others but leaner, allowing for his wings to be the size they need to be.

People always talk about the swords but then forget that they never appeared in the movie which this line is all about.

It think it's less "it wasn't in the movie so it won't happen" and more "it wasn't in the movie so it's a lower priority", and then they spent the accessories budget for the Dinobots on "essentials" already before they got to giving them lower priority/non-movie accessories. Otherwise, how do you explain Gnaw having his gun that was never in the film?

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Thu Nov 24, 2022 5:40 pm

Nemesis Primal wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:
cloudballoon wrote:If the eventual Swoop is a Voyager size figure at Leader price, Hasbro better pack 5 swords as accessories. None of the Blitzwing/Shockwave crap.

I don't think they will, the swords were never in the movie anyway. What I now think Swoop will be like is consistent in height with the others but leaner, allowing for his wings to be the size they need to be.

People always talk about the swords but then forget that they never appeared in the movie which this line is all about.
It think it's less "it wasn't in the movie so it won't happen" and more "it wasn't in the movie so it's a lower priority", and then they spent the accessories budget for the Dinobots on "essentials" already before they got to giving them lower priority/non-movie accessories. Otherwise, how do you explain Gnaw having his gun that was never in the film?

I'm going to be completely honest with you, I forgot that Studio Series 86 Gnaw even had a gun

News Credits: 61 · by **EvasionModeBumblebee** » Thu Nov 24, 2022 6:50 pm

william-james88 wrote:
Do you include Devcon in that statement? Because I don't know when we'll get him.

If I'm being honest, I don't expect to see Devcon in the line but I would very much like to see him in the future. He won the fan tournament a little while ago which Sam Smith did see, so it could be possible!

I also got core DOTM Laserbeak painted up, I really like this figure! Excited for the Bumblebee redeco in the future, I hope we see more Bayverse core class!

News Credits: 22 · by **Rodimus Prime** » Thu Nov 24, 2022 7:18 pm

Now THAT looks MUCH better! Great job!

News Credits: 61 · by **EvasionModeBumblebee** » Thu Nov 24, 2022 7:59 pm

Rodimus Prime wrote:Now THAT looks MUCH better! Great job!

Thank you! This was a neat one to work on, I really just had to miniaturize my paint work from SS DOTM Bumblebee!

News Credits: 48 · by **Nemesis Primal** » Thu Nov 24, 2022 8:24 pm

ZeroWolf wrote:I'm going to be completely honest with you, I forgot that Studio Series 86 Gnaw even had a gun

Fair enough. ;)^

News Credits: 1642 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Fri Nov 25, 2022 11:53 am

Got my final 2 Studio Series figures for the year, and with them I have finished the wave.

Starting with Crosshairs, he is a definite improvement over his old toy. He is much more involved, and his alt mode parts end up being more included as well. I love that half his hood ends up as the front parts of his trenchcoat. I also like how much more functional the arms are, and how his posability improved with the redesign. His transformation is very different from his first toy, which is always a good thing to experience. I like him, he is an improvement, and he's a good toy.

As for Hot Rod, he is also a good toy. Finally, a movie accurate toy! His transformation is very involved, but makes for a clean robot. They put a lot of effort into him, and he is real good.

Overall, the wave was strong. The Fallen is a definite winner, and I adore Laserbeak. Both deluxes ended up being good too. It was a good wave.

by **Till-all-R1** » Fri Nov 25, 2022 12:21 pm

EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Do you include Devcon in that statement? Because I don't know when we'll get him.

If I'm being honest, I don't expect to see Devcon in the line but I would very much like to see him in the future. He won the fan tournament a little while ago which Sam Smith did see, so it could be possible!

I'm surprised it's going to be a main line release, I'd have expected this Bot to be some kind of Con Exclusive but an Exclusive either way. Though I suppose things can always change. Also can't believe it's a new mold since there doesn't seem to be much reuse here.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Fri Nov 25, 2022 12:24 pm

Till-all-R1 wrote:
EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Do you include Devcon in that statement? Because I don't know when we'll get him.

If I'm being honest, I don't expect to see Devcon in the line but I would very much like to see him in the future. He won the fan tournament a little while ago which Sam Smith did see, so it could be possible!

I'm surprised it's going to be a main line release, I'd have expected this Bot to be some kind of Con Exclusive but an Exclusive either way. Though I suppose things can always change. Also can't believe it's a new mold since there doesn't seem to be much reuse here.

What? There's no DOTM Devcon confirmed to be coming. That fan tournament was fan conducted. It wasn't official. It was just done for fun by fans.