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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

Postby william-james88 » Mon Jul 23, 2018 1:04 pm

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Rodimus Knight wrote:Speaking of the Studio Series line, it looks like the VW Bug version of Bumblebee won't be available on the Hasbro site, unless it gets added just before the sale starts.


That mold is coming out in a bunch of different ways. The exclusive releases are retailer specific, so of course HTS wouldt have them, but there is no reason to suspect that they wont have the mass retail release of the mold, SS 18.
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

Postby Randomhero » Mon Jul 23, 2018 1:07 pm

ZeroWolf wrote:Why would you not like that? It would help bridge the idea that the film is a prequel. I mean I don't think he'd change his alt till the very end of the movie anyway


Because it’s transformers. fans must find things to be disappointed in.
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

Postby william-james88 » Mon Jul 23, 2018 1:16 pm

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ZeroWolf wrote:Why would you not like that? It would help bridge the idea that the film is a prequel. I mean I don't think he'd change his alt till the very end of the movie anyway


Because it’s transformers. fans must find things to be disappointed in.

Its not hard to find, already 5 live action films have been made :lol:

Jokes aside, I will admit, for a film where the marketting is about this being more G1 than anything before (the director having grown up with G1, BB beign a volkswagon, it taking place in the 80s), I do find it really odd that a G1 coloured jet transformer wearing a stylized G1 head of Starscream is not starscream. I know marketting people can be real dumb but this strikes me as an odd choice and I dont kow why they made it. They knew it would be a talking point, and the shot was chosen for the trailer so I am just puzzled as to the point of making us think one way and revealing something left field.

I dont really care about the end product since I am watching this for the film itself, but its still an odd decision in how this jet's identity has been handled.

EDIT: Dammit, I thought i was in another thread.
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

Postby Rodimus Knight » Mon Jul 23, 2018 1:49 pm

william-james88 wrote:
Rodimus Knight wrote:Speaking of the Studio Series line, it looks like the VW Bug version of Bumblebee won't be available on the Hasbro site, unless it gets added just before the sale starts.


That mold is coming out in a bunch of different ways. The exclusive releases are retailer specific, so of course HTS wouldt have them, but there is no reason to suspect that they wont have the mass retail release of the mold, SS 18.


I'm specifically talking about the SDCC gold version, with the two cassette. The Vol 2 version.
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

Postby william-james88 » Mon Jul 23, 2018 1:51 pm

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Rodimus Knight wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Rodimus Knight wrote:Speaking of the Studio Series line, it looks like the VW Bug version of Bumblebee won't be available on the Hasbro site, unless it gets added just before the sale starts.


That mold is coming out in a bunch of different ways. The exclusive releases are retailer specific, so of course HTS wouldt have them, but there is no reason to suspect that they wont have the mass retail release of the mold, SS 18.


I'm specifically talking about the SDCC gold version, with the two cassette. The Vol 2 version.

Its retailer exclusive rather than convention exclusive, so no it wont be available there.
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

Postby Deadput » Mon Jul 23, 2018 1:59 pm

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Munkky wrote:As much as I understand how popular Bumblebee is, SEVEN Deluxe Bumblebees from the same two moulds in one toyline seems a bit excessive, even if some of them are exclusives. Along with Dropkick not looking like his design in the movie (I don't expect a full triple-changing Dropkick toy) and flat-out making up a character to repaint Lockdown into instead of just retooling it into a new Hot Rod, I think Studio Series has really dropped the ball after wave 2.


I mean it may seem excessive at first but only two (maybe 3) are retail figures the rest being exclusive in some way.

01 Bee: While a retail figure it is also a version of Bumblebee we haven't had a figure of since 2007 (maybe there was something in 2009 but I doubt it) and the figure back then wasn't exactly film accurate.

15 Bee: This is probably an exclusive since it comes with a Charlie fig but it seems to be unchanged from 01 so I guess they could of done something with it.

18 Bee: This seems to be the retail version of the VW Bee which we haven't had a figure of before and since it's his form in the upcoming film had to have at least a couple figures dedicated to. Also it's pretty spaced out from the first retail Bee so I don't think both retail Bee's will be on shelves at the same time.

19 and 20 Bee: Both are gold repaints of the previous two and both are exclusives, while they may have numbers I honestly doubt either are taking placements from any possible characters, plus how angry would fans be if these places were used for say Sideways and Jolt?

24 and 25 Bee: These are a two pack and probably exclusive in of itself, one of the figs is a re-release of a previous line Bee and the only version of a modern Camaro Bumblebee in the Studio Series line so far and the other seems to just be an unchanged version of 18, again I don't think these are taking places for any other possible figure.
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Mon Jul 23, 2018 2:19 pm

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Munkky wrote:and flat-out making up a character to repaint Lockdown into instead of just retooling it into a new Hot Rod, I think Studio Series has really dropped the ball after wave 2.

Well, as I stated before, I can actually see a purpose to Shadow Raider that would not be served by Hot Rod: Providing Lockdown's gun, and his masked head. Packaging those with Hot Rod wouldn't make any sense at all (and would be to Hot Rod's detriment, considering). And making him a redeco character vaguely based on another car seen in Age of Extinction (as opposed to just an alternate Lockdown) helps counteract the "But you already have that toy" response.

TLDR he's a glorified accessory pack for Lockdown.
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

Postby hausjam » Mon Jul 23, 2018 2:35 pm

I will pretty much be sticking to 3rd party from now on. Between Studio series and WFC, the immediate future of Hasbro looks rather disappointing.
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

Postby Wolfman Jake » Mon Jul 23, 2018 3:40 pm

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The Studio Series line drew me back into collecting the live-action movie Transformers (for a third time). At the beginning, it was very exciting to get these characters and figures in proper scale and with (in most cases) the most screen-accurate sculpting and designs yet. Heck, it even got me to pick up many of "The Last Knight" figures as they were being clearanced out of stores over the past few months. Now, after the release of the Wave 2 Deluxes and Voyagers, things are really cooling off for me. There's very little to look forward to for the rest of the year, thanks to the Bumblebee movie taking over for the next quarter or two. Having a few "army builders" with the KSI Drone and "Shadow Raider" are fine, but not terribly exciting, like collecting some Sweeps or Sharkticons would be for G1, for instance. I'm sure I'll be more into Dropkick after seeing the movie, but for now, he's not a character I have any attachment to at all. The repaints of Ratchet and Starscream are really only appealing to me in terms of their different accessories, as I much prefer both of their original decos to their later incarnations in the movies. I guess I'll focus on trying to snipe some good deals on eBay for some earlier movieverse figures that are still top notch quality and unlikely to get representation in the Studio Series any time soon.
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

Postby Carnivius_Prime » Mon Jul 23, 2018 4:09 pm

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Munkky wrote:nd flat-out making up a character to repaint Lockdown into instead of just retooling it into a new Hot Rod,



I don't want them to retool another Lockdown into Hot Rod like they did with TLK. THe third party Hot Rod's have shown how damn cool he looks when he's been done all new from scratch.
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

Postby First-Aid » Mon Jul 23, 2018 4:21 pm

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So of the 25 studio series figures, about 30% are Bumblebees.

:BOOM:

I'm really starting to hate Bumblebee.

Dear Hasbro,

Variety is the spice of life.

Right now, all you're giving us is salt. How about some oregano or thyme or monosodium glutamate? Pepper? Hell, I'll settle for anise right now and I HATE black jellybeans. Too much salt gives people high blood pressure.

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Its kind of like Basic Instinct, but not in a good way...


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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

Postby Skritz » Mon Jul 23, 2018 4:39 pm

First-Aid wrote:So of the 25 studio series figures, about 30% are Bumblebees.

:BOOM:

I'm really starting to hate Bumblebee.

Dear Hasbro,

Variety is the spice of life.

Right now, all you're giving us is salt. How about some oregano or thyme or monosodium glutamate? Pepper? Hell, I'll settle for anise right now and I HATE black jellybeans. Too much salt gives people high blood pressure.

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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

Postby transformers_va » Mon Jul 23, 2018 4:54 pm

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Why is Bumblebee apparently so popular? Imho, he wasn't that good in the G1 cartoon, comics, etc., and the Bay movies didn't help with the whole not talking aspect to an already weak character. I'm personally getting annoyed at the focus in on Bumblebee, Grimlock, and Optimus.. there are sooooo many other Transformers that are much cooler/better than they could ever be.

Sorry about the rant, but with all the Bumblebees in the Studio Line.. :-x
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

Postby What's Crackin'? » Mon Jul 23, 2018 4:54 pm

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I just love how the #15 Bee is just a worse version of the #1 Bee,, but they expect you to still buy it because it comes with Charlie. Seriously it has almost 0 paint. Why does this need to exist other than to sell more Bees. Where is the new Optimus Prime, and freakin' Bonecrusher? I love Bee, and the exsclusives are fine, but if you're gonna repaint figures at least make them look cool, andd not worse! Gold bees are fine, but no blue head to homage Gold Bug? Then you re-release the TLK Bee, and make it worse? Do a Jazz in G1 colors or something, but not this. Really hope the line gets better after this new wave. We don't want these garbage Bee re-releases. If you're gonna do this at least make it a High Octane one.
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

Postby Skritz » Mon Jul 23, 2018 5:01 pm

transformers_va wrote:Why is Bumblebee apparently so popular?


Because he's the mascot of the Live Action Movies. Simple as that.
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

Postby transformers_va » Mon Jul 23, 2018 5:20 pm

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I understand that, but what I don't understand is why/how he became the mascot. He wasn't good to begin with, and there were soooo many better options to build a franchise around.

I don't ever recall a time that I thought of the G1s, and thought, oh yeah Bumblebee is why I got into these in the first place.
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

Postby Skritz » Mon Jul 23, 2018 5:22 pm

transformers_va wrote:I understand that, but what I don't understand is why/how he became the mascot. He wasn't good to begin with, and there were soooo many better options to build a franchise around.

I don't ever recall a time that I thought of the G1s, and thought, oh yeah Bumblebee is why I got into these in the first place.


He's a season 1 Autobot and he was seen hanging with humans.
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

Postby transformers_va » Mon Jul 23, 2018 5:29 pm

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Ummmmm.. Unless I'm misremembering.. I think a lot of them did
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

Postby Qwan » Mon Jul 23, 2018 5:45 pm

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As much as this is a fine conversation to have, may I suggest taking it to the Bumlebee Movie thread? This one is intended for the toys, after all... ;)
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

Postby First-Aid » Mon Jul 23, 2018 5:52 pm

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Qwan wrote:As much as this is a fine conversation to have, may I suggest taking it to the Bumlebee Movie thread? This one is intended for the toys, after all... ;)


OK, we'll get back on focus.

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Its kind of like Basic Instinct, but not in a good way...


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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

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Ratchet: I got the 1st, I'm good.

Starscream: yes please, I have been waiting for the saw.

Ironhide: Eh, I'm not digging him too much.

VW Bee: Oh yes please, great job with that one!!

Dropkick: also yes please! Though I am bummed they didn't make him a muscle car.

Bonecrusher... oh wait, he's not there. Where is he dammit?????? And a new leader figure?????
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Mon Jul 23, 2018 6:03 pm

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transformers_va wrote:Why is Bumblebee apparently so popular? Imho, he wasn't that good in the G1 cartoon, comics, etc., and the Bay movies didn't help with the whole not talking aspect to an already weak character. I'm personally getting annoyed at the focus in on Bumblebee, Grimlock, and Optimus.. there are sooooo many other Transformers that are much cooler/better than they could ever be.

Sorry about the rant, but with all the Bumblebees in the Studio Line.. :-x

Bumblebee is the kid-appeal character - on the small side, usually but not always yellow, has a lot of moxie for his size, often best friends with human companion characters if present, usually cute in some way. G1 Bumblebee set a trend followed by most subsequent kid-appeal characters to some degree: G1 Hot Rod, G1 Wheelie, Beast Wars Cheetor (Who spawned a quote about the concept: "Little. Yellow. Special. Kids love him."), Armada Hot Shot, Energon Ironhide, Cybertron Scattorshot (though he splits the kid-appeal duties with Jolt), movie Bumblebee, Animated Bumblebee. Don't know for sure right off about RiD (2001) or TFP.

Anyway, marketer logic (which is often out of sync with reality) says that since the kid-appeal character appeals to kids, toys of them are infinitely more marketable and thus they should get a bazillion toys (as well as get huge toys despite part of the character's appeal being that they're SMALLER. Beast Machines Supreme-class Cheetor, Animated jumbo-size Bumblebee, the assorted Leader-class movieverse Bumblebees - DotM Leader-class Bumblebee being the stupidest by far... And Hasbro's marketers never seem to learn despite how many of these have shelfwarmed. Including Supreme-class Cheetor, the one who started the trend.). RiD through the Unicron Trilogy, this bad habit was suppressed. But come the movies it flared right back up and hasn't been properly quashed since.

As for movieverse Bumblebee not talking normally most of the time and using radio clips instead, that apparently is Spielberg's fault. Because he thinks it makes him more interesting and more appealing. As for his being such a main focus, well... Kid appeal aside, the fact that they have to deal with shooting in actual physical locations means that his size makes him easier to fit into scenes than larger characters.

I do think there are a couple too many Bumblebees in the line, and the "one accessory per figure" thing (which has only a couple exceptions) is annoying and obviously done for profiteering (oh, you want Ratchet's gun? You have to buy a whole new Ratchet toy that doesn't even reflect a movie paintjob). On the other hand, some of them are nice to have. Classic Camaro 'Bee needed a new toy, the TLK Bee reissue is probably welcome to people who missed out on getting Proper TLK Deluxe 'Bee at retail because of how horrible TLK's distribution was (due in part to how badly Wave 1 shelfwarmed). But it is a bit much all the same.

hausjam wrote:I will pretty much be sticking to 3rd party from now on. Between Studio series and WFC, the immediate future of Hasbro looks rather disappointing.

What's your problem with WFC: Seige? No, really, what's your problem? We're getting a Chromia that actually turns into her car mode, a new Deluxe Ironhide/Ratchet van mold, Firedrive for people who don't want to buy Legends Targetmaster Roddy, Cog to go with Fortress Maximus, a new and very G1-looking Voyager Optimus (it figures, right after I finally found a reasonably-priced CW Optimus), a cab-robot-and-trailer-armor Ultra Magnus who looks more G1 in robot mode than CW Mags did (plus seems to have a Voyager-size cab!) and while his altmode looks more RiD than G1 it can probably carry one more Deluxe car than CW Mags, a new Deluxe Sideswipe (a welcome sight since while Universe Sideswipe is a good figure, he's also one of those Costs A Heap Secondhand Because Because toys now. My only disappointment is he probably can't combine with CW Optimus since we still need a combining Sideswipe and Windcharger), a new Hound that comes with more weapons than Universe Hound did and is likely a little bigger...
I can understand being disappointed in the Studio Series, but WFC: Seige is looking pretty appealing. Certainly not grounds for "WAAAH WAAAH I'M JUMPING TO 3P ONLY EVEN THOUGH MOSTLY WHAT THEY DO IS MASTERPIECE-STYLE FIGURES AND NOT MUCH IN THE WAY OF CLASSICS/GENERATIONS STUFF OUTSIDE OF 50 DIFFERENT NOT-DEVASTATORS".
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

Postby transformers_va » Mon Jul 23, 2018 6:17 pm

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First-Aid wrote:OK, we'll get back on focus.

TOO MANY BUMBLEBEES! MUST HAVE CREATIVITY! VARIETY! WANT BETTER TOYS NOW!!! :KREMZEEK:


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ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Bumblebee is the kid-appeal character - on the small side, usually but not always yellow, has a lot of moxie for his size, often best friends with human companion characters if present, usually cute in some way. G1 Bumblebee set a trend followed by most subsequent kid-appeal characters to some degree: G1 Hot Rod, G1 Wheelie, Beast Wars Cheetor (Who spawned a quote about the concept: "Little. Yellow. Special. Kids love him."), Armada Hot Shot, Energon Ironhide, Cybertron Scattorshot (though he splits the kid-appeal duties with Jolt), movie Bumblebee, Animated Bumblebee. Don't know for sure right off about RiD (2001) or TFP.

Anyway, marketer logic (which is often out of sync with reality) says that since the kid-appeal character appeals to kids, toys of them are infinitely more marketable and thus they should get a bazillion toys (as well as get huge toys despite part of the character's appeal being that they're SMALLER. Beast Machines Supreme-class Cheetor, Animated jumbo-size Bumblebee, the assorted Leader-class movieverse Bumblebees - DotM Leader-class Bumblebee being the stupidest by far... And Hasbro's marketers never seem to learn despite how many of these have shelfwarmed. Including Supreme-class Cheetor, the one who started the trend.). RiD through the Unicron Trilogy, this bad habit was suppressed. But come the movies it flared right back up and hasn't been properly quashed since.

As for Bumblebee not talking normally most of the time and using radio clips instead, that apparently is Spielberg's fault. Because he thinks it makes him more interesting and more appealing.


Very well explained, and I agree 100% about the marketer logic - thank you!
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

Postby Tommy T. » Mon Jul 23, 2018 7:14 pm

You know, I know bumblebee is there mascot but I agree 7 bumblebees is a little too much. Who wants some characters we haven't gotten yet? Give me the garbage truck in dark of the moon as a leader!!!!or a screen accurate dino!!!
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion (New 2018 Movie Line)

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