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Sabrblade wrote:Good luck, man.
For what it's worth, I read the whole thing without any booze (as I don't drink), so brace yourself for a long haul of frustration if you ain't got anything to ease up the read.
Cobotron wrote:Hey! You seemed to have attracted a wild Megatronus. They're hard to find, but boy are they fun when you catch one!
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Though, I really don't think Megatronus physically looks that much like Megatron at all. I mean, gray deco and arm cannon aside.
Sabrblade wrote:Personally, I feel that (aside from his head) Alchemist looks more like a Megatron (Movie or Prime, specifically) than Megatronus does.
Cobotron wrote:Hey! You seemed to have attracted a wild Megatronus. They're hard to find, but boy are they fun when you catch one!
I mean shape-wise.megatronus wrote:I'm not sure you can cast the grey deco and arm cannon aside, when those are Megatron's defining features...
Looks more like just the Decepticon insignia to me, what with the horned helmet and the triangular face and cheeks.megatronus wrote:Plus, Megtronus' helmet seems inspired by Bayverse Megatron.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Booze or ponies, or whatever smooths you over.Avensis-Mahiya wrote:Should I stock up on booze for a reading of this? I'm not much of a drinker, really, but if this is going to be as frustrating as I think it is, I might have to reconsider how much I like having a functioning liver.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Erm, no, it's not that it "doesn't happen", it's just that a lot of it is glossed over due to only being able to fit so much into this book.Melfice_Cyrum wrote:As far as the inconsistencies between the Covenant and the novels, I get the idea the novels are treated like an AU, since a lot of the stuff in Exodus straight up DOESN'T HAPPEN.
Again, there's only so much that could have been fit into this book, so a lot of it had to be summarized instead of thoroughly elaborated on down to the last minute detail.Melfice_Cyrum wrote:And while Exiles gets some better treatment, a lot of the events are either only given barest mention, or again, straight up don't happen.
The Covenant based its info on many sources, including the novels.Melfice_Cyrum wrote:Having never read the novels and armed with only tfwiki's summary, I admit I'm more biased towards the Covenant in terms of validity.
It's not the simple fact that she was killed, but HOW she was killed, as well as just how she was portrayed overall. She went from being her own character to being reduced to just "The Chick". She was made out to be the love interest of about half of the Primes, all at once, and gradually had any and all traces of her dignity stripped away with each page.Melfice_Cyrum wrote:Also, I feel like I'm one of the only people NOT bothered by how Solus was handled. I mean, I honestly don't see how it's so bad that she was killed. We already knew she'd been killed by Megatronus. That the details are obscured and incorrect was easily chalked up to the Cataclysm scrambling everyone's brains. In fact, I find it amusing that the modern Cybertronians think of The Fallen as this dark, evil character, when he was in fact anything BUT evil.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Justina RobsonAvensis-Mahiya wrote:And this woman wouldn't happen to be Stephenie Meyer, now would it?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Avensis-Mahiya wrote:It's just, why a 1:12 ratio? Why couldn't the Primes just be sexless, genderless beings that defied all notions of what it means to have sex and gender? Maybe it's because that's a bit too deep, but it would make much more sense for Alpha Trion to be all "the Primes cannot be boiled down to 'he' or 'she' and the pronouns we use for them are untranslatable but I will make do with what I got." or something like that.
Cobotron wrote:Hey! You seemed to have attracted a wild Megatronus. They're hard to find, but boy are they fun when you catch one!
But he still does note that there are two distinct "kinds" of Cybertronians (even if they have no bioligical concept of gender/sex) that reflect what we as humans perceive as akin to gender, and that the ratio between these two "kinds" is 1:12.megatronus wrote:Avensis-Mahiya wrote:It's just, why a 1:12 ratio? Why couldn't the Primes just be sexless, genderless beings that defied all notions of what it means to have sex and gender? Maybe it's because that's a bit too deep, but it would make much more sense for Alpha Trion to be all "the Primes cannot be boiled down to 'he' or 'she' and the pronouns we use for them are untranslatable but I will make do with what I got." or something like that.
Actually, that's exactly what Alpha Trion/the book says...
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:But he still does note that there are two distinct "kinds" of Cybertronians (even if they have no bioligical concept of gender/sex) that reflect what we as humans perceive as akin to gender, and that the ratio between these two "kinds" is 1:12.megatronus wrote:Avensis-Mahiya wrote:It's just, why a 1:12 ratio? Why couldn't the Primes just be sexless, genderless beings that defied all notions of what it means to have sex and gender? Maybe it's because that's a bit too deep, but it would make much more sense for Alpha Trion to be all "the Primes cannot be boiled down to 'he' or 'she' and the pronouns we use for them are untranslatable but I will make do with what I got." or something like that.
Actually, that's exactly what Alpha Trion/the book says...
Cobotron wrote:Hey! You seemed to have attracted a wild Megatronus. They're hard to find, but boy are they fun when you catch one!
Avensis-Mahiya wrote:Just got the book today on this merriest of Christmases. I'm honestly a bit overwhelmed and even nervous (I like my canon the way it is, thank you very much), but I got it for a good reason.
Instead of a few grains of salt I'll be taking Lot's wife with me on this journey.
Cobotron wrote:Hey! You seemed to have attracted a wild Megatronus. They're hard to find, but boy are they fun when you catch one!
Fitting for how this book is essentially a bible of sorts.megatronus wrote:Avensis-Mahiya wrote:Just got the book today on this merriest of Christmases. I'm honestly a bit overwhelmed and even nervous (I like my canon the way it is, thank you very much), but I got it for a good reason.
Instead of a few grains of salt I'll be taking Lot's wife with me on this journey.
Love the biblical reference!
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Yep.SlyTF1 wrote:Got this for Christmas. I wish I could read it right now, but I'm busy with my PS4. Also, I had no idea the book's story extended all the way to the end of Prime.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
But even before it occurred near the end of Predacons Rising, there were obvious signs throughout the entirety of the movie that Megatron was basically done with the war and any attempts of his to get back in the game kept being in vain to the point that it only made sense for him to just stop trying and concede defeat.Avensis-Mahiya wrote:And they are browbeating the ever living hell out of us with Megatron's redemption, but I'm not buying what they're selling. Maybe it's because the whole thing was so shoddily done in PR that the idea of Megatron giving up everything he has ever done is so not him. It would be more in character for him to possibly be driven even more insane from the torture. Sorry Hasbro, but it just didn't work.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Just like Starscream.Avensis-Mahiya wrote:Okay, I will give it credit--a Megatron that is willing to put everything behind him and start fresh is indeed something new. I may not like it, but it is an interesting concept.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Well, if you like guys who are pure evil and completely irredeemable masterminds of their own being... too bad.SlyTF1 wrote:Started really reading it today. I REALLY like Megatronus. He's probably my favorite TF ever, as of now.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
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