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william-james88 wrote:Kurona wrote:Eh, it's an action movie. It's not heavy on plot and it really shouldn't be; movies of this sort work best with a relatively simple plot that's easy to follow with a few twists and turns inserted in there somewhere.
Thats what Logan was and it was perfect.
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
TYPE OF MEDIA - VideoTrailer
APPROVED RUNNING TIME - 2m 18s
DIRECTOR(S) - Michael Bay
CAST INCLUDES - Gemma Chan, Mark Wahlberg, Isabela Moner
CUT - This work was passed uncut.
Title - TRANSFORMERS: THE LAST KNIGHT
Also known as - TRANSFORMERS 5
Year - 2017
Distributor(s) - Paramount Pictures c/o Universal Pictures (UK) Ltd.
Classified date(s) - 27/03/2017
Main language - English
Submitted run time - 2m 18s
BBFC reference - DTxxx346896
Remarks - 16:9
Rating information - The version of this work detailed above is rated by the BBFC under the Video Recordings Act 1984 for use on any Packaged Media format (including DVD, Blu-ray and VHS). This classification may also be used when the same work is made available on Digital Video Platforms (including Video On Demand) provided that the platform is licenced to use BBFC ratings.
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
Deadput wrote:Guys Bwtf has a lot more story spoilers in his post if your like me and into that sort of thing.
http://bwtf.com/events/paramount-super-fan-day-2
Edit: holy crap General Morshower is back I liked his character in ROTF and DOTM! Also Dinobot Slug is back as well so so far it's not just Grimlock
Deadput wrote:I think when people want more "character" their talking about screen-time and lines which we definitely got in the last movie with Optimus (as always), Crosshairs, Hound, Lockdown.
Bumblebee was a bit less of a screen hog in Aoe with Hound pretty much taking his place in the movie and Drift was good too although he got the less screen time out of all the main Autobots in that movie doesn't help that it's difficult to make a stoic personality stick out compared to loud or snarky ones such as Hound and Crosshairs.
The only characters I felt needing more screen time were The Dinobots (Although I understand since they show up at the end of the movie not much time to develop character there although a line or two from Grimlock would help at least Grimlock is coming back) and some more screemtime or at least some action scenes to make Stinger stand out more then he actually did in the final film since it's obvious compared to what we saw during filming that several scenes with Stinger were cut out of the movie.
Kurona wrote:Oh true, characters are certainly important and AoE making its Autobot cast stand out a lot more compared to the previous movies was certainly an improvement - while action should be prioritised, one should also make an effort to have the characters stand out a little and be enjoyable and likeable. Nothing groundbreaking or full of depth; but just someone that you might be able to relate to on some small level and someone who you're rooting for when they're taking the fight to the bad guys. So you can certainly criticise these movies for not having likeable, enjoyable characters if that's how you feel (it's personally how I feel; I find Optimus in these movies to be an extremely unlikable character for instance - but that's not the point I'm making here and I won't bore you all by going into why).
What I was getting at is that a lot of people seem to criticise the movie for having plots and characters that lack depth. But, as I keep saying, that's generally how action movies work best. It's not where you look for your deeply impactful stories or something that will re-define cinema for generations or have characters the like of which you've never seen before. I mean hey, maybe these movies do do that for you; I dunno. If they do, all the power to you! But for those complaining that they don't... this is a summer action blockbuster. You go in, you have fun, you get out. That's generally the point, so I don't see much worth in complaining that the first movie's story was simple or that Hound doesn't have a deeply developed backstory. One of the few points I'll agree with Bay on is that ROTF having an overly-complex mythos was a detriment because it's distracting from what should be the focus; the action.
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
Seibertron wrote:Deadput wrote:Guys Bwtf has a lot more story spoilers in his post if your like me and into that sort of thing.
http://bwtf.com/events/paramount-super-fan-day-2
Edit: holy crap General Morshower is back I liked his character in ROTF and DOTM! Also Dinobot Slug is back as well so so far it's not just Grimlock
I can confirm those as well. This article was one of the more difficult to write because they asked us to comment about what we saw but not divulge specifics which put us in between a rock and a hard spot. I picked a few specifics and kept quiet about the rest, unsure of how much to say. Once a few more things are out, I'll compile all of what we know so far.
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
Deadput wrote:Seibertron wrote:Deadput wrote:Guys Bwtf has a lot more story spoilers in his post if your like me and into that sort of thing.
http://bwtf.com/events/paramount-super-fan-day-2
Edit: holy crap General Morshower is back I liked his character in ROTF and DOTM! Also Dinobot Slug is back as well so so far it's not just Grimlock
I can confirm those as well. This article was one of the more difficult to write because they asked us to comment about what we saw but not divulge specifics which put us in between a rock and a hard spot. I picked a few specifics and kept quiet about the rest, unsure of how much to say. Once a few more things are out, I'll compile all of what we know so far.
If there is ever a point I post something I shouldn't here in my enthusiasm due to contracts that you guys have or something just let me know and I'll delete my post.
Seibertron wrote:
If there is ever a point I post something I shouldn't here in my enthusiasm due to contracts that you guys have or something just let me know and I'll delete my post.
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
Deadput wrote:Thanks anyways I was wondering if anyone else from Seibertron went to the event or if it was just you?
Seibertron wrote:Deadput wrote:Thanks anyways I was wondering if anyone else from Seibertron went to the event or if it was just you?
It was just me from Seibertron.com along with one representative each from bwtf.com, unicron.com, tfwiki.net, tfw2005.com, tformers.com, allspark.com, and Marcelo Matere! The rest of the group was filled out with Michael Bay superfans and Transformers fans from around the world.
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
Deadput wrote:Seibertron wrote:Deadput wrote:Thanks anyways I was wondering if anyone else from Seibertron went to the event or if it was just you?
It was just me from Seibertron.com along with one representative each from bwtf.com, unicron.com, tfwiki.net, tfw2005.com, tformers.com, allspark.com, and Marcelo Matere! The rest of the group was filled out with Michael Bay superfans and Transformers fans from around the world.
Bay superfans eh? Wonder if I missed my invite in the mail![]()
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Oh and perhaps Sly too if anyone in the world is a superfan it's that guy.
Seibertron wrote:Do you guys have websites dedicated to Michael Bay?
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
SpikeyTigertron wrote:I'm surprised nobody has pointed out Prime Predaking's Predacon insignia on the shield yet. I have a feeling that's where this is going. "Dragons" as we know them were refuge Predacons prior to the Purge by Megatron(us). It would also explain the dinobots... which iirc weren't really explained in AoE. I still have a feeling OP and Megs might be teaming up against the "bigger bad" which may be Predaking aka Dragonstorm. We'll see.
SpikeyTigertron wrote:I'm surprised nobody has pointed out Prime Predaking's Predacon insignia on the shield yet. I have a feeling that's where this is going. "Dragons" as we know them were refuge Predacons prior to the Purge by Megatron(us). It would also explain the dinobots... which iirc weren't really explained in AoE. I still have a feeling OP and Megs might be teaming up against the "bigger bad" which may be Predaking aka Dragonstorm. We'll see.
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
dragons wrote:i will not see any movie in imax first movie i saw in imax was avatar screen was big tickets where exepensive but i could barely hear audio in movie people say imax movies are great big picture loud audio yeah picture was big same with ticket prices but i caould barely hear audio in movie and i have exceptional hearing.
i will see this movie in 3d as much i hate 3d its overrated have two glasses on face uncomfterable but transformers is only moive series that makes 3d effects non blurry when i see movie in 3d
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
Deadput wrote:dragons wrote:i will not see any movie in imax first movie i saw in imax was avatar screen was big tickets where exepensive but i could barely hear audio in movie people say imax movies are great big picture loud audio yeah picture was big same with ticket prices but i caould barely hear audio in movie and i have exceptional hearing.
i will see this movie in 3d as much i hate 3d its overrated have two glasses on face uncomfterable but transformers is only moive series that makes 3d effects non blurry when i see movie in 3d
I can say I have expert vision doesn't mean it's actually true.
Seibertron wrote:
Any reason to argue this? I know what dragons is saying ... sometimes the audio is so loud that it is difficult to actually hear the audio itself. Just had that happen at Beauty and the Beast in IMAX.
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
Seibertron wrote:fenrir72 wrote:The King Arthur aspect, is that like a nod to the time travel episode in Season 2 cartoon?
I think it's more a coincidence than anything, though it'd be really interesting if that episode actually somehow inspired all of this. Trying to put my "I pretend to know about things other than Transformers" shoes on, I've been reading a novel from one of my favorite series, the "Orion" series by Ben Bova, his 6th book which came out before anything about the Last Knight came about, has to do with a time traveler of sorts, Merlin, and King Arthur as well, so ironically similar, but I think that's just the point of having those characters in any sort of story that impacts modern day. A handy coincidence I believe is all it is.
Considering that King Arthur and Merlin do not actually show up in the G1 episode "A Decepticon Raider in King Arthur's Court", I think it's even more of a stretch to say that The Last Knight is in any way influenced by that not-so-great G1 episode.
fenrir72 wrote:It's nice that the writers take a lot of coincidental nods to the original series.
Kup on Blitzwing on the turret = done
Shuttle blowing up with the Autobots presumed destroyed= done
Human collaborating with the 'cons to conquer/sell out the world= done
Time travel (maybe)= into the Middle Ages = done
Fight in Washington DC = done
Autobots hunted down/KISS Players= done
Seibertron wrote:You could say that about just about any fiction and run it against just about anything else. Considering how much Transformers has borrowed fictional elements from other pop culture phenoms or copied concepts from other toy lines, I'd consider this a slippery slope.
fenrir72 wrote: Kup on Blitzwing on the turret = done
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
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