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As a matter of fact, I never heard of them being on Earth in the Marvel Comic or existing at all in the actual 1984 toyline, or how this relates to your argument that Sunbow Season one is the only incarnation of "real Transformers" because it debuted "first".84forever wrote:I guess you never heard of the Air warriors or Rainmakers? The Autobots were vastly outnumbered.
What's more hurtful to his argument is how the Marvel Comics debuted months before the cartoon did, thus making Marvel G1 being the true beginning of the Transformers fiction.Bumblevivisector wrote:As a matter of fact, I never heard of them being on Earth in the Marvel Comic or existing at all in the actual 1984 toyline, or how this relates to your argument that Sunbow Season one is the only incarnation of "real Transformers" because it debuted "first".84forever wrote:I guess you never heard of the Air warriors or Rainmakers? The Autobots were vastly outnumbered.
Or do true fans have some grasp of linear time that the rest of us aren't privy to?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:What's more hurtful to his argument is how the Marvel Comics debuted months before the cartoon did, thus making Marvel G1 being the true beginning of the Transformers fiction.Bumblevivisector wrote:As a matter of fact, I never heard of them being on Earth in the Marvel Comic or existing at all in the actual 1984 toyline, or how this relates to your argument that Sunbow Season one is the only incarnation of "real Transformers" because it debuted "first".84forever wrote:I guess you never heard of the Air warriors or Rainmakers? The Autobots were vastly outnumbered.
Or do true fans have some grasp of linear time that the rest of us aren't privy to?
Either way, we're of the same mind on this one.Bumblevivisector wrote:Sabrblade wrote:What's more hurtful to his argument is how the Marvel Comics debuted months before the cartoon did, thus making Marvel G1 being the true beginning of the Transformers fiction.Bumblevivisector wrote:As a matter of fact, I never heard of them being on Earth in the Marvel Comic or existing at all in the actual 1984 toyline, or how this relates to your argument that Sunbow Season one is the only incarnation of "real Transformers" because it debuted "first".84forever wrote:I guess you never heard of the Air warriors or Rainmakers? The Autobots were vastly outnumbered.
Or do true fans have some grasp of linear time that the rest of us aren't privy to?
Um, thanks Sabr, but that actually is the point I was making, the emphasis and quotes around "first" denoting its wrongness. It's late enough that my sarcasm transcriber may have misfired.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Marvel Comics debuted months before the cartoon did, thus making Marvel G1 being the true beginning of the Transformers fiction.
Jeep! wrote:Why do I imagine Dead Metal sounding exactly like Arnie?
Intah-wib-buls?
Blurrz wrote:10/10
Leave it to Dead Metal to have the word 'Pronz' in his signature.
And Ken was just a male doll for Barbie, who was inspired by Germany's Bild Lilli doll, who was based off the German comic strip character in the Bild newspaper.Dead Metal wrote:You know, even the Marvel comics aren't true enough for me, the only real, good "true" Transformers is actually older than that.
As we all know before Transformers there was Diaclone and Microchange, which evolved out of Microman, which itself was developed by Takara off of the back of their import of Hasbro's GiJoe line. And as we all know Gi Joe was just a KO of Barbie's Ken in military uniform.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:And Ken was just a male doll for Barbie, who was inspired by Germany's Bild Lilli doll, who was based off the German comic strip character in the Bild newspaper.Dead Metal wrote:You know, even the Marvel comics aren't true enough for me, the only real, good "true" Transformers is actually older than that.
As we all know before Transformers there was Diaclone and Microchange, which evolved out of Microman, which itself was developed by Takara off of the back of their import of Hasbro's GiJoe line. And as we all know Gi Joe was just a KO of Barbie's Ken in military uniform.
So the "true" beginning of the Transformers lies with the June 24, 1952 issue of Bild-Zeitung (thank you, Wikipedia).
Jeep! wrote:Why do I imagine Dead Metal sounding exactly like Arnie?
Intah-wib-buls?
Blurrz wrote:10/10
Leave it to Dead Metal to have the word 'Pronz' in his signature.
Well, the article uses the word "cartoon", but since the medium was a newspaper (and the year was 1952), I figured that "newspaper cartoon character" equated out to "newspaper comic character". *shrugs*Dead Metal wrote:Sabrblade wrote:And Ken was just a male doll for Barbie, who was inspired by Germany's Bild Lilli doll, who was based off the German comic strip character in the Bild newspaper.Dead Metal wrote:You know, even the Marvel comics aren't true enough for me, the only real, good "true" Transformers is actually older than that.
As we all know before Transformers there was Diaclone and Microchange, which evolved out of Microman, which itself was developed by Takara off of the back of their import of Hasbro's GiJoe line. And as we all know Gi Joe was just a KO of Barbie's Ken in military uniform.
So the "true" beginning of the Transformers lies with the June 24, 1952 issue of Bild-Zeitung (thank you, Wikipedia).
Bild had a comic strip?![]()
That is too much new information for one day ...
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Well, the article uses the word "cartoon", but since the medium was a newspaper (and the year was 1952), I figured that "newspaper cartoon character" equated out to "newspaper comic character". *shrugs*Dead Metal wrote:Sabrblade wrote:And Ken was just a male doll for Barbie, who was inspired by Germany's Bild Lilli doll, who was based off the German comic strip character in the Bild newspaper.Dead Metal wrote:You know, even the Marvel comics aren't true enough for me, the only real, good "true" Transformers is actually older than that.
As we all know before Transformers there was Diaclone and Microchange, which evolved out of Microman, which itself was developed by Takara off of the back of their import of Hasbro's GiJoe line. And as we all know Gi Joe was just a KO of Barbie's Ken in military uniform.
So the "true" beginning of the Transformers lies with the June 24, 1952 issue of Bild-Zeitung (thank you, Wikipedia).
Bild had a comic strip?![]()
That is too much new information for one day ...
Jeep! wrote:Why do I imagine Dead Metal sounding exactly like Arnie?
Intah-wib-buls?
Blurrz wrote:10/10
Leave it to Dead Metal to have the word 'Pronz' in his signature.
It's posts like these that make me wish that the posts on this forum had "Like" buttons.Dead Metal wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Well, the article uses the word "cartoon", but since the medium was a newspaper (and the year was 1952), I figured that "newspaper cartoon character" equated out to "newspaper comic character". *shrugs*Dead Metal wrote:Sabrblade wrote:And Ken was just a male doll for Barbie, who was inspired by Germany's Bild Lilli doll, who was based off the German comic strip character in the Bild newspaper.Dead Metal wrote:You know, even the Marvel comics aren't true enough for me, the only real, good "true" Transformers is actually older than that.
As we all know before Transformers there was Diaclone and Microchange, which evolved out of Microman, which itself was developed by Takara off of the back of their import of Hasbro's GiJoe line. And as we all know Gi Joe was just a KO of Barbie's Ken in military uniform.
So the "true" beginning of the Transformers lies with the June 24, 1952 issue of Bild-Zeitung (thank you, Wikipedia).
Bild had a comic strip?![]()
That is too much new information for one day ...
Oh no, I got what you meant, it's just the Bild doesn't have one anymore, it's more known for it's incredibly poopy coverage of insane made up crap, like "Hitler totally had UFOs" or quoting something out of context and then writing a whole speculative article about what it means, like back when Bush stated he was against splicing human genes into animals for stuff like making better baby milk, and then concluding that Bush killed a FBI program to create animal hybrid supersolders like the Minotaurs from Greek Mythology.![]()
Oh and for the Bild page 2 girl.
So finding out that they had a comic strip at one point, one that was so influential that it started a whole new kind of doll that itself was so influential is pretty shocking to me.![]()
So in a way, we owe our hobby to one of the shittiest news papers ever.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
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