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In "The Rebirth", Brainstorm instructed his fellow Autobot pre-Headmasters to download their memories and personalities into the auxiliary memory circuits in their chests, so as to maintain them whenever their heads would be detached from their bodies.Hellscream9999 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:If going by the Japanese portrayal of Headmasters, then yes (which is what Option A would be). Option B would be like how The Rebirth had the bodies as the main robot mode identities, but that story never got to show what would happen if the characters ever swapped their heads around.Hellscream9999 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:I think it might be that either A) the Titan Master class figures don't have a distinction between the identity of the robot and head modes (like, both the robot and head are Loudmouth, unlike the partnered Titan Masters like Hyperfire turning into Blurr's head), or B) the body's identity overrules any of the head identities (like, if you were to put Loudmouth on Blurr's body, the result would still be Blurr with a new head, even if it looks different from the head formed by Hyperfire).RiddlerJ wrote:I still don't understand these size class figures. So is Loud Mouth the name of the head mode or the little robot mode? Like Hyperfire is the name of the figure who forms Blurr's headmode.
Wouldn't it be the other way around? Like it's only blurr if the head that looks like blurr is on the body? Otherwise if you put loudmouth's head on blurrs body, it would be loudmouth, right? God, this is why we need solid fiction, at least on the boxes
I don't know anything about the japanese stuff, I was just going by the logic that the brain would be in the head, so, swap the heads and swap personalities - or does the spark in the body contain the personality?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
SW's SilverHammer wrote:This is why I never liked the American interpretation of headmasters.
william-james88 wrote:If ever Sabrblade decides to go on vacation, I am glad to know we can rely on you.
Hellscream9999 wrote:SW's SilverHammer wrote:This is why I never liked the American interpretation of headmasters.
I can handle it, if there's at least an explanation to the convoluted stuff, it's when there isn't any, that I get irritated
william-james88 wrote:Just so everyone is clear, Hasbro has stated in interviews that it is not using the Japanese transector fiction. The little headmaster is its own character, but the the robot mode for the full robot always includes its head. Meaning that there is no such thing as a transector. Its just Blurr with the headmaster giving him a stat boost. And when he removes the head, he is in vehicle mode. There is no in between for Hasbro.
william-james88 wrote:If ever Sabrblade decides to go on vacation, I am glad to know we can rely on you.
Hellscream9999 wrote:william-james88 wrote:Just so everyone is clear, Hasbro has stated in interviews that it is not using the Japanese transector fiction. The little headmaster is its own character, but the the robot mode for the full robot always includes its head. Meaning that there is no such thing as a transector. Its just Blurr with the headmaster giving him a stat boost. And when he removes the head, he is in vehicle mode. There is no in between for Hasbro.
So, despite their attempt at play-style, the fiction directly contradicts that - dumb move hasbro
william-james88 wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:william-james88 wrote:Just so everyone is clear, Hasbro has stated in interviews that it is not using the Japanese transector fiction. The little headmaster is its own character, but the the robot mode for the full robot always includes its head. Meaning that there is no such thing as a transector. Its just Blurr with the headmaster giving him a stat boost. And when he removes the head, he is in vehicle mode. There is no in between for Hasbro.
So, despite their attempt at play-style, the fiction directly contradicts that - dumb move hasbro
Not at all. Each head can give a headmaster better stats, they just always need to have a head in robot mode.
william-james88 wrote:If ever Sabrblade decides to go on vacation, I am glad to know we can rely on you.
Hellscream9999 wrote:william-james88 wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:william-james88 wrote:Just so everyone is clear, Hasbro has stated in interviews that it is not using the Japanese transector fiction. The little headmaster is its own character, but the the robot mode for the full robot always includes its head. Meaning that there is no such thing as a transector. Its just Blurr with the headmaster giving him a stat boost. And when he removes the head, he is in vehicle mode. There is no in between for Hasbro.
So, despite their attempt at play-style, the fiction directly contradicts that - dumb move hasbro
Not at all. Each head can give a headmaster better stats, they just always need to have a head in robot mode.
Oh, I thought this: 'And when he removes the head, he is in vehicle mode. There is no in between for Hasbro.' was literal, in that they weren't incorporating head-swapping into the fiction
Wolfman Jake wrote:Wouldn't Blurr or anyone else who needs a Titan Master to give them a complete robot mode be S.O.O.L. if none are around? They'd be "trapped" in alt mode. It's too bad they didn't just incorporate regular heads into the deluxe, voyager, and leader figures outright. You can hide them away and use the Titan Masters instead for the playability angle, but if you lose Titan Master, at least you would still have a toy that can form a full humanoid robot on its own. In fact, I'm pretty sure this is why Hasbro had been so hesitant until now to revisit the Headmaster idea.
Wolfman Jake wrote:Wouldn't Blurr or anyone else who needs a Titan Master to give them a complete robot mode be S.O.O.L. if none are around? They'd be "trapped" in alt mode. It's too bad they didn't just incorporate regular heads into the deluxe, voyager, and leader figures outright. You can hide them away and use the Titan Masters instead for the playability angle, but if you lose Titan Master, at least you would still have a toy that can form a full humanoid robot on its own. In fact, I'm pretty sure this is why Hasbro had been so hesitant until now to revisit the Headmaster idea.
william-james88 wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:william-james88 wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:william-james88 wrote:Just so everyone is clear, Hasbro has stated in interviews that it is not using the Japanese transector fiction. The little headmaster is its own character, but the the robot mode for the full robot always includes its head. Meaning that there is no such thing as a transector. Its just Blurr with the headmaster giving him a stat boost. And when he removes the head, he is in vehicle mode. There is no in between for Hasbro.
So, despite their attempt at play-style, the fiction directly contradicts that - dumb move hasbro
Not at all. Each head can give a headmaster better stats, they just always need to have a head in robot mode.
Oh, I thought this: 'And when he removes the head, he is in vehicle mode. There is no in between for Hasbro.' was literal, in that they weren't incorporating head-swapping into the fiction
No no, they do, but there is no such thing as a headless body. If its headless, its in vehicle mode. That is different from the japanese fiction where headless bodies exist and are just husks.
ZeroWolf wrote:I would like to know though is why they are called titan masters. What is their connection to titans? Are IDW going to provide answers?
SW's SilverHammer wrote:This is why I never liked the American interpretation of headmasters.
bluecatcinema wrote:SW's SilverHammer wrote:This is why I never liked the American interpretation of headmasters.
Weren't the Americans the ones who actually came up with the concept, and it was the Japanese who "interpeted" it in their series?
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:So... Put short and easy, this is Armada's Mini-Cons all over again. The main body provides the base stats, the head provides the boosts, and each is its own entity. Gotcha.
william-james88 wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:I would like to know though is why they are called titan masters. What is their connection to titans? Are IDW going to provide answers?
I doubt it, Hasbro said not everything is connected to the comics. They are telling a story but through a toyline and surounding media can support aspects of it (but not all). The reason why they are titan masters is to differentiate the smaller robot from the larger robot. In G1 the headmaster both referrs to the small head robot and the toy in general. For example in G1: Horribul is a headmaster and he has a headmaster... wait what?
But now Blurr is a headmaster because he has a little titan master that becomes his head. And I guess them being small means they see the larger TFs as titans. Thats how I reasoned it. Especially if the leader size class can turn into cities for these little guys, just as titans like Metroplex would turn into cities for regular tfs.
RiddlerJ wrote:So, for example, Blurr is just the name of the body. Hyperfire and Nightbeat are the names of the heads. If either one would plug in, it would still be Blurr. Is that the idea?
RiddlerJ wrote:So, for example, Blurr is just the name of the body. Hyperfire and Nightbeat are the names of the heads. If either one would plug in, it would still be Blurr. Is that the idea?
Ultra Mad wrote:Do we have an idea of what will be the price range for Fortress Maximus at retail? I wonder if he will have a similar price to Metroplex (with inflation) a few years ago or just be a lot more expensive? I'm not really interested in paying twice as much as I did for Metroplex.
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