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See Va'al, this is what I was talking about. Why not mention this stuff at SDCC also instead of having it be revealed this way instead?
Hascon will be too late just like they were far too late at Toyfair with this line's reveals.
Assuming of course that this is real and that new toys are coming out Q4 in the generations line.

There is no joy under late capitalism.

Oooh, if this turns out to be true and have those proportions, I'd love it. It's bulky enough to make more sense as a soldier and warrior while still keeping her feminine. Way better than T30

The entire body from neck to foot is consistent with Blurr's design - allowing for certain artistic liberties, which as we've seen from the likes of Megatron isn't uncommon for these cards - as are the forearms. For the drastically different backpack and what may or may not be different upper arms and shoulders depending on how far the artistic liberties go, there would need to be a fair amount of retooling for it to work with this transformation; but that's not something Titans Return is alien to in the slightest. If this is real it's gonna be awesome

I just noticed something else weird about the Arcee card. Her whole bot mode is Blurr, except for the typical Arcee backpack. Either the artist goofed, or we could be getting another slight remold to make the front of the car look more Arcee-ish.

Now onto the rampant speculation. I think the leak of the card, plus the Tryppy Crunch list means that the unaccounted for titan masters are for wave 6 instead of the names for the TM's from the 2 boxed sets. I also think we are going to get some form of another 2 boxed sets for the Scorponok and Ultra Magnus heads. That leaves 7 new TM unaccounted for, with 6 autobots and 1 decepticon. However, Blunderbus and Overboard were each in the wrong faction on the list (soo Hasbro) so there is a chance that one of the new ones is also wrong.

Backwards Daniel would obviously go with Arcee. For the other 6, none of the names really stand out as matching up with any of the Autobot target masters or the decepticon voyager triplechangers, so I'm fairly stumped, and then you throw Ginrai in there, who knows what the hell that could mean.

The one that seems sort of obvious to be would be Prof Go and Go Shuta, possibly as another Chromedone redco?

Fathom is likely being related to some type of boat or marine vehicle, so I'm guessing Flattop here out of Broadside.

It is going to be hard pretending to work the rest of the day while thinking about this...

Nautica - Parsec
Quickswitch - Dynamus
Laser Prime - Fengul

Tidal Wave - Fathom
Metalhawk - Professor Go
Magnus Prime - Ginrai

Arcee - Leinad

Strength set - Scorponok
Intelligence set - Ultra Magnus

Maybe a Reflector made from the Perceptor mold - Refractor

Sabrblade wrote:Nautica - Parsec
Quickswitch - Dynamus
Laser Prime - Fengul

Tidal Wave - Fathom
Metalhawk - Professor Go
Magnus Prime - Ginrai

Arcee - Leinad

Strength set - Scorponok
Intelligence set - Ultra Magnus

Maybe a Reflector made from the Perceptor mold - Refractor

See, damn, now I'm really confused, because at least 1/2 of the names you've matched up fit really well. But then, if they have the diecast heads for the next 2 boxed sets already determined, what about the rest of the bots for those sets? Is this a shift from TR to PotP, where only the little diecast heads will be TM's? and if that is the case, then we are looking at a Wave 6 with only Slugslinger, Arcee and whatever Refractor goes with? for a wave that will be out for Christmas?

Not feeling this Blurrcee going by the art. If it was her own unique mold and Blurr had never been made, fine. But if I was to have her stood next to Hot Rod, Blurr, Kup and others, it's just too darn obvious that her and Blurr are the same whereas the Generations toy is Arcee through and through.

I'm happy to get another Classic Style Arcee, even if she's a minimal retool of Blurr, but I have to wonder what we would have gotten if she'd won the vote for the next Prime.

I also find it odd that her headmaster might be "Daniel" when they didn't use "Spike" for Fortress Maximus.

Sabrblade wrote:Nautica - Parsec
Quickswitch - Dynamus
Laser Prime - Fengul

Tidal Wave - Fathom
Metalhawk - Professor Go
Magnus Prime - Ginrai

Arcee - Leinad

Strength set - Scorponok
Intelligence set - Ultra Magnus

Maybe a Reflector made from the Perceptor mold - Refractor

But then this means that the other 2 boxsets dont have names for their titan msters. So it doesnt really hold up either one way or another.

Not surprised Arcee will be a Blurr Retool, Blurr/Brainstorms alt mode back is Arcee's

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Nautica - Parsec
Quickswitch - Dynamus
Laser Prime - Fengul

Tidal Wave - Fathom
Metalhawk - Professor Go
Magnus Prime - Ginrai

Arcee - Leinad

Strength set - Scorponok
Intelligence set - Ultra Magnus

Maybe a Reflector made from the Perceptor mold - Refractor

See, damn, now I'm really confused, because at least 1/2 of the names you've matched up fit really well. But then, if they have the diecast heads for the next 2 boxed sets already determined, what about the rest of the bots for those sets? Is this a shift from TR to PotP, where only the little diecast heads will be TM's? and if that is the case, then we are looking at a Wave 6 with only Slugslinger, Arcee and whatever Refractor goes with? for a wave that will be out for Christmas?

Parsec's power fits with Nautica's speed motif.

Dynamus's power fits with Quickswitch's many modes.

Fengul's name is an anagram of "engulf", and his power is "Optics Scorch", "Optics" sounds like "Optimus" and the scorch part ties in with the imagery of Optimus burning down a forest on Laser Prime's tanker trailer.

Fathom's name refers to the measurement of ocean depth, hence Tidal Wave

Professor Go was Metalhawk's friend and colleague in Masterforce

Magnus Prime is a redeco of Super Ginrai, so he gets Ginrai

"Leinad" spelled backwards is "Daniel", who was Arcee's Headmaster in The Rebirth

Scorponok and Ultra Magnus both have "Ultimate X Boost" powers like Rodimus Prime and Thunderwing, so they were likely going to be in the two remaining sets that won't see release this year.

Refractor for Reflector's just a guess, though. But "invisibility" would be a decent power for a camera-related guy.

william-james88 wrote:But then this means that the other 2 boxsets dont have names for their titan msters. So it doesnt really hold up either one way or another.

The two other sets aren't coming as they originally were planned to anymore. We're only getting the first two this year, and the change of plans is what led to Cloudraker and Wingspan getting put in a Walgreens two-pack. If we get the remaining two sets next year, they more than likely won't be in the same form that they were originally going to be.

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:But then this means that the other 2 boxsets dont have names for their titan msters. So it doesnt really hold up either one way or another.

The two other sets aren't coming as they originally were planned to anymore. We're only getting the first two this year, and the change of plans is what led to Cloudraker and Wingspan getting put in a Walgreens two-pack. If we get the remaining two sets next year, they more than likely won't be in the same form that they were originally going to be.

Was this confirmed? I have been struggling to follow the box sets news with opinion assumptions and facts all blending together in message boards.

Graviton wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:But then this means that the other 2 boxsets dont have names for their titan msters. So it doesnt really hold up either one way or another.

The two other sets aren't coming as they originally were planned to anymore. We're only getting the first two this year, and the change of plans is what led to Cloudraker and Wingspan getting put in a Walgreens two-pack. If we get the remaining two sets next year, they more than likely won't be in the same form that they were originally going to be.

Was this confirmed? I have been struggling to follow the box sets news with opinion assumptions and facts all blending together in message boards.

In this video:

Sabrblade wrote:

Graviton wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:But then this means that the other 2 boxsets dont have names for their titan msters. So it doesnt really hold up either one way or another.

The two other sets aren't coming as they originally were planned to anymore. We're only getting the first two this year, and the change of plans is what led to Cloudraker and Wingspan getting put in a Walgreens two-pack. If we get the remaining two sets next year, they more than likely won't be in the same form that they were originally going to be.

Was this confirmed? I have been struggling to follow the box sets news with opinion assumptions and facts all blending together in message boards.

In this video:

Cool thanks! Although they didn't directly state that the other sets will be released next year.

Graviton wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Graviton wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:But then this means that the other 2 boxsets dont have names for their titan msters. So it doesnt really hold up either one way or another.

The two other sets aren't coming as they originally were planned to anymore. We're only getting the first two this year, and the change of plans is what led to Cloudraker and Wingspan getting put in a Walgreens two-pack. If we get the remaining two sets next year, they more than likely won't be in the same form that they were originally going to be.

Was this confirmed? I have been struggling to follow the box sets news with opinion assumptions and facts all blending together in message boards.

In this video:

Cool thanks! Although they didn't directly state that the other sets will be released next year.

That's why I said "if".

If Arcee will just be a repaint of Blurr, I will have to see what her TM looks like before buying -- I loved her previous incarnations, ever since the Generations release and its G1 aesthetic.

Really, the only Arcee I'm currently tempted to get is that Fans Toys (FT-24) Rouge...she could be a gorgeous figure, indeed.

So I read this the other day and didn't get around to it..

william-james88 wrote:Why dont we talk about the toys we have and love instead of what we wish would happen or what we are pissed hasnt happened? Its like this thread has all the anticipation, the reviews but not what follows. Aside from BodRock's shots of Skyshadow, I dont see as much of people having fun with their toys. Or saying which they love, or trying different things with their heads and compatibility across the line. has anyone done some fun stuff with all this added playability?

Here's photos of fun! More found here.




So, back to the latest news, I'll take Arcee. Still need Nautica from the "I never saw it" box-set

Also, I don't have a TR figure I don't like. I'm still going for at least one of every mold which I think is attainable!! I just need more of them to be Decepticons..!

Sabrblade wrote:Nautica - Parsec
Quickswitch - Dynamus
Laser Prime - Fengul

Tidal Wave - Fathom
Metalhawk - Professor Go
Magnus Prime - Ginrai

Arcee - Leinad

Strength set - Scorponok
Intelligence set - Ultra Magnus

Maybe a Reflector made from the Perceptor mold - Refractor

Hey! I put together that list over on the other forum!

Love the idea of a new Arcee, specially a Titan masters version.
Maybe they used Daniel's name backwards cause is hard to trademark a proper name.
A Reflector would be awesome.
I would love an Elita figure on Power of the Primes, a guy can dream....

Theory time!

Assuming that the Titans Return Arcee card art is legitimate, and the list of six previously unknown Titan Master names from the Trypticon Crunch poster, I think Leinad is the Titan Master for Nautica. The card shows that Arcee is a retool of Blurr, but we've already had three character uses of that basic mold, one of them being a pink-ish purple female character, e.g. Nautica. Another use as a primarily pink female character would be a little much, even for cost-cutting Hasbro. I bet that Hasbro originally intended to do an Arcee remold of Blurr, but changed their minds and made her Nautica instead, since there is such demand for that character (who has never had toy representation before) and Arcee did get a pretty definitive figure a few years back in the Thrilling 30 line (and a rerelease in the Autobot Heroes set last year). Or, perhaps Hasbro tried to retool Blurr into Arcee, but had trouble getting the alt mode and/or robot silhouette to look right, so they went for Nautica instead, which looks like a much easier retool, honestly, with just the new shoulder fans added. So, Arcee probably was going to get "Daniel" as a Titan Master to reference "The Rebirth" episodes of the G1 cartoon. That doesn't make sense for Nautica, though, so they just reversed the spelling of the name to make a "different" character to be Nautica's Titan Master partner.

Thoughts?

I get the idea they used Daniel's name backwards so as to seem more robotic and such rather than having a human name -- I don't recall the last time a Transformers toy had a human name (not counting the ones that actually are made to be human like those PVC tfp kids). Same reason Spike is now called 'Emissary' -- they're trying to put them across as robots and keep things consistent.

Wolfman Jake wrote:Theory time!

Thoughts?

I think Saber probably has it right. Backwards Daniel for a new Arcee. Refractor for something yet to be revealed, and the other 6 are for the 2 boxed sets with Parsec for Nautica. The descriptions for the TM powers really match up with the 6 bots from the 2 boxed sets.

Ultra Magnus and Scopronok are the 2 wild cards. They were likely the 2 die cast heads for the next 2 boxed sets, but the clones getting their own Walgreens exclusive really points to the next 2 boxed sets being pushed into Power of the Primes or cancelled. No clue if the last 2 die cast heads or even the 2 boxed sets will still happen, or if they will just end up being names on a cereal box for a giant mecha-dino.

Is that Turmoil she's leaping over?

If so, I'd take him over another Blur remold.