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D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:I don't know. Something just seems very off about A3. The lion mode looks pretty bad to me, but something about the other modes also seem... odd.

He's not our standard A3, but he to me still is really cool. I love the lion mode and actually think it looks good, and the Spaceship mode is beautiful too. And I dont know why, but his robot mode, despite the bulk, still looks awesome to me

I might still get him to add to my season 3 and 4 guys, but he's still not my favorite.

Bold lines, beautiful, beefy renders! Love that angle on Prime. Would love to see an upward angled Bruticus to emphasize his size.

SillySpringer wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:I don't know. Something just seems very off about A3. The lion mode looks pretty bad to me, but something about the other modes also seem... odd.

He's not our standard A3, but he to me still is really cool. I love the lion mode and actually think it looks good, and the Spaceship mode is beautiful too. And I dont know why, but his robot mode, despite the bulk, still looks awesome to me

I might still get him to add to my season 3 and 4 guys, but he's still not my favorite.

But he mainly showed up in season 2 though

We have more Titans Return Botcon related news for you before the day ends. Not only did we see the original art of the promotional material, we also have a look at some of the tech spec cards that come with the toys. Some of these will only be held by us months from now, so this is a fun early look. This was brought to us by Scotty P who held them and took pictures of them at Botcon 2016. We have the cards for Wolfwire, Stripes and Fortress Maximus. Enjoy!

I...think that's pretty cool actually.

Bout time we got something on the back of the cards!

So they're making a difference between base stats and stat boosts given by the Titan Master. Cool beans. Kinda like what One Must Fall 2097 did.

Nice of them to actually put something on the back of the card now.

Wait, Wolfwire is already maxed out at 10 for intelligence before being boosted by Monxo to 15? And yet his fire power is only a 3 despite the huge gun and those missile pods on his arms and the big sword? Did they mix these stats up?

Emerje

Why can't A3's toy look as badass as the art...I don't care if it doesn't transform, someone, somewhere, MAKE THIS AND SELL IT TO ME. It's too awesome!!

Sigma Magnus wrote:Why can't A3's toy look as badass as the art...I don't care if it doesn't transform, someone, somewhere, MAKE THIS AND SELL IT TO ME. It's too awesome!!

Apart from the feet this is pretty much exactly what the toy looks like.

I'm kind of glad they're doing away with the comics. I really like the cards that come with everyone right now (minus the deluxes) and adding the Tech Specs make these new ones even better. Do we know if these will come with the Titan Masters too?

Emerje wrote:Nice of them to actually put something on the back of the card now.

Wait, Wolfwire is already maxed out at 10 for intelligence before being boosted by Monxo to 15? And yet his fire power is only a 3 despite the huge gun and those missile pods on his arms and the big sword? Did they mix these stats up?

Emerje

"Already smart Wolfwire is. Make even smarter Monxo does!"

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Kinda like what One Must Fall 2097 did.

I always wanted a toy of the Pyros as a kid.

Any mention of Hasbro selling Titans with no Masters, so we can mix and match the cheap sets with them?

Emerje wrote:Nice of them to actually put something on the back of the card now.

Wait, Wolfwire is already maxed out at 10 for intelligence before being boosted by Monxo to 15? And yet his fire power is only a 3 despite the huge gun and those missile pods on his arms and the big sword? Did they mix these stats up?

Emerje

The stat cap has been raised to 20, which could mean an expansion of the old ratings, or a completely new scale. If the latter is true, it makes Weirdwolf's "10" for intelligence more like a old "5," which isn't too far off, though I do have to wonder how much intelligence Monzo really brings to the outfit to boost that up to a "7.5". The rescaling does make Weirdwolf's firepower that much more pathetic, though.

Amelie wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Kinda like what One Must Fall 2097 did.

I always wanted a toy of the Pyros as a kid.

I fancied the Shredder more, myself.

Amelie wrote:Any mention of Hasbro selling Titans with no Masters, so we can mix and match the cheap sets with them?

As in, bodies without heads? That would be like selling sandwiches without the bread... wait, they actually do that?

awesome talent and i love that megatron.

Sigma Magnus wrote:Why can't A3's toy look as badass as the art...I don't care if it doesn't transform, someone, somewhere, MAKE THIS AND SELL IT TO ME. It's too awesome!!

Looks pretty close to me:

william-james88 wrote:

Sigma Magnus wrote:Why can't A3's toy look as badass as the art...I don't care if it doesn't transform, someone, somewhere, MAKE THIS AND SELL IT TO ME. It's too awesome!!

Looks pretty close to me:

Yeah, it's close...I mean, it kinda has to be. But for whatever reason the art and toy don't have the same...what's the word...'oomph'? I dunno, the art just seems a lot cooler to me, and I'd love to have that, even if it's just a statue or something.

Sigma Magnus wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Sigma Magnus wrote:Why can't A3's toy look as badass as the art...I don't care if it doesn't transform, someone, somewhere, MAKE THIS AND SELL IT TO ME. It's too awesome!!

Looks pretty close to me:

Yeah, it's close...I mean, it kinda has to be. But for whatever reason the art and toy don't have the same...what's the word...'oomph'? I dunno, the art just seems a lot cooler to me, and I'd love to have that, even if it's just a statue or something.

I feel art will always look cooler. I am a big comic book guy and one of the coolest shots ever is this:



And they made a statue of that exact shot but you cant replicate the shadows or cross hatching so some of the texture is lost:



You will notice that most TFs (and comic book statues) look way cooler at the design stage, thats just how things go and its a reason to treasure the art as its own beauty that cant be replicated elsewhere.

Fair point. I'm still a little disappointed, but not as much so. Thanks for the new perspective.

Wolfman Jake wrote:

Emerje wrote:Nice of them to actually put something on the back of the card now.

Wait, Wolfwire is already maxed out at 10 for intelligence before being boosted by Monxo to 15? And yet his fire power is only a 3 despite the huge gun and those missile pods on his arms and the big sword? Did they mix these stats up?

Emerje

The stat cap has been raised to 20, which could mean an expansion of the old ratings, or a completely new scale. If the latter is true, it makes Weirdwolf's "10" for intelligence more like a old "5," which isn't too far off, though I do have to wonder how much intelligence Monzo really brings to the outfit to boost that up to a "7.5". The rescaling does make Weirdwolf's firepower that much more pathetic, though.

I don't think it's meant to be a new scale. (Note that Stripes uses the standard 10-point system.) From what I see, each color represents the individual characters' stats; they add together when they combine. They had to put more on the end because, if they didn't, everyone would be maxing 3 or 4 of their stats (which is apparently Fort Max's thing).

Takara's Cloud line used a 20-point scale for the same reason...the difference being that TM uses an actual feature of the toy (as opposed to some element of the fiction).

As for WW, if anyone is an idiot savant, it's that guy.

Randomus wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:

Emerje wrote:Nice of them to actually put something on the back of the card now.

Wait, Wolfwire is already maxed out at 10 for intelligence before being boosted by Monxo to 15? And yet his fire power is only a 3 despite the huge gun and those missile pods on his arms and the big sword? Did they mix these stats up?

Emerje

The stat cap has been raised to 20, which could mean an expansion of the old ratings, or a completely new scale. If the latter is true, it makes Weirdwolf's "10" for intelligence more like a old "5," which isn't too far off, though I do have to wonder how much intelligence Monzo really brings to the outfit to boost that up to a "7.5". The rescaling does make Weirdwolf's firepower that much more pathetic, though.

I don't think it's meant to be a new scale. (Note that Stripes uses the standard 10-point system.) From what I see, each color represents the individual characters' stats; they add together when they combine. They had to put more on the end because, if they didn't, everyone would be maxing 3 or 4 of their stats (which is apparently Fort Max's thing).

Takara's Cloud line used a 20-point scale for the same reason...the difference being that TM uses an actual feature of the toy (as opposed to some element of the fiction).

As for WW, if anyone is an idiot savant, it's that guy.

"mMMMmmm. Wise Randomus is, yEEEsss!"

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:As in, bodies without heads? That would be like selling sandwiches without the bread... wait, they actually do that?

Yes - bodies without heads. With a slightly generic colour scheme so they'll fit anything.

Amelie wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:As in, bodies without heads? That would be like selling sandwiches without the bread... wait, they actually do that?

Yes - bodies without heads. With a slightly generic colour scheme so they'll fit anything.

*Sings* "Another Saturday night and I aint got no body...got some money, 'cause I just got paid..."

Does this show my age too much?

Agamemnon wrote:

Amelie wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:As in, bodies without heads? That would be like selling sandwiches without the bread... wait, they actually do that?

Yes - bodies without heads. With a slightly generic colour scheme so they'll fit anything.

*Sings* "Another Saturday night and I aint got no body...got some money, 'cause I just got paid..."

Does this show my age too much?

...he asks during a discussion about cartoon characters from 1987.