The Energon Pub

I don't think we'll get a Eurakis set And even if we did what would be in it? The only animals we've gotten is alpha trio, the Decepticon headmasters and Doublecross. The set only comes with one voyager and one deluxe. Plus the other sizes but Does anyone really want a redeco of Alpha trio or any redecos of the con headmasters and even if we don't be filled with just beasts because their isn't a beast in all the class sizes. Look at ththe velocitron set. A 6 changer whose only mode advertised is a tank, a semi truck, a "submarine" and one speedster car. If we got a eurakis set it's probably only have one animal in it and the rest would be other Titan returns figures that would just get tossed in like the other two. Granted the Cybertron set has some big bands like Magnus prime and tidal wave but it also has pounce.

I think the last seats will be Caminus and Earth.

Eh, the boxsets don't necessarily follow the planet's theme to a T - they had some pretty odd justification for Laser Prime, Nautica and Quickswitch on Velocitron. Quickswitch has to do with speed because he can... transform fast...? They'll likely just Wingspan along with one, maybe two beasts and then whatever molds they wanna use. Soundblaster, G2 Megatron, Marvel Galvatron, Sky Shadow in his undies... I dunno. They'll find some loose justification for why they're on the jungle planet. Don't see why it's necessary for everyone in the Eukaris set to be beasts.

Forget lack of reason for Quickswitch to be in a Velocitron-themed pack, there was no good reason for Titans Return Quickswitch that we got to exist at all. He is a mistake, a case of Hasbro forgetting there was another Autobot Sixchanger, one who is a retool of Sixshot. Given the limits of those sets it probably would have not been the greatest Greatshot (sticker chest, no shoulder guns, etc) but it would have made more sense to my thinking than trying to pass off the Sixshot mold as the totally-different-design Quickswitch.

Kurona wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

Kurona wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Yet more weirdness from whoever is in charge of the Titans Return packaging. First the screwup with Galvatron and Broadside, and now this.

What screwup was on Galvatron and Broadside?

Galvy was in Autobot packaging and Broadside was in Decepticon packaging

Ah, that's just a thing in general. All Wave 1-3 boxes had Autobot symbols, while all Wave 4 onward boxes had Decepticon symbols.

Why is it wave-dependant instead of aligning it with the individual figure included? ... I dunno, it's kinda dumb.

Hmm

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

Kurona wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

Kurona wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Yet more weirdness from whoever is in charge of the Titans Return packaging. First the screwup with Galvatron and Broadside, and now this.

What screwup was on Galvatron and Broadside?

Galvy was in Autobot packaging and Broadside was in Decepticon packaging

Ah, that's just a thing in general. All Wave 1-3 boxes had Autobot symbols, while all Wave 4 onward boxes had Decepticon symbols.

Why is it wave-dependant instead of aligning it with the individual figure included? ... I dunno, it's kinda dumb.

Not the big symbol, the smaller symbol near the name. I'd read (and I believe I'd seen) that several samples had the wrong symbol.

Huh, odd -- I'd never heard of that before. Do you have a picture?

I'm tempted to buy this set, keep Pounce and sell the rest of it for $89.99 plus whatever I paid for shipping.

That and I hope the other 2 sets are exclusive to a retail store (like Target or Walmart) and NOT Amazon or somewhere else online.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

Kurona wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

Kurona wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Yet more weirdness from whoever is in charge of the Titans Return packaging. First the screwup with Galvatron and Broadside, and now this.

What screwup was on Galvatron and Broadside?

Galvy was in Autobot packaging and Broadside was in Decepticon packaging

Ah, that's just a thing in general. All Wave 1-3 boxes had Autobot symbols, while all Wave 4 onward boxes had Decepticon symbols.

Why is it wave-dependant instead of aligning it with the individual figure included? ... I dunno, it's kinda dumb.

Not the big symbol, the smaller symbol near the name. I'd read (and I believe I'd seen) that several samples had the wrong symbol.

The smaller symbols are all correct, it's the bigger ones on the side and top that are "incorrect". Ever since CW I believe, where it was all , with starting at TR Wave 3

I know what's happened. I know exactly what's happened!

Some guy clicked "beastwars.jpg" on accident, no one else checked on it, and off to the printer went a box art file.

Kurona wrote:Eh, the boxsets don't necessarily follow the planet's theme to a T - they had some pretty odd justification for Laser Prime, Nautica and Quickswitch on Velocitron. Quickswitch has to do with speed because he can... transform fast...? They'll likely just Wingspan along with one, maybe two beasts and then whatever molds they wanna use. Soundblaster, G2 Megatron, Marvel Galvatron, Sky Shadow in his undies... I dunno. They'll find some loose justification for why they're on the jungle planet. Don't see why it's necessary for everyone in the Eukaris set to be beasts.

I agree that's why I don't understand the want for a eurakis set because it won't be all beasts because technically it can't be.

Though I too want a G2 Megatron. The canon can even become attached to his shoulder because their are some 5mm holes. I death right it be green with purple camo than all purple like the one that was more deluxe size and the giant missile. I think one will be soundblaster of Twincast and other godbomber.

Marvel Galvatron is also one I've said beforehand I'd could see. It's just Galvatron 2 and I'd be game for that. Bring on IDW barbarian Galvatron!

Kurona wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

Kurona wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

Kurona wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Yet more weirdness from whoever is in charge of the Titans Return packaging. First the screwup with Galvatron and Broadside, and now this.

What screwup was on Galvatron and Broadside?

Galvy was in Autobot packaging and Broadside was in Decepticon packaging

Ah, that's just a thing in general. All Wave 1-3 boxes had Autobot symbols, while all Wave 4 onward boxes had Decepticon symbols.

Why is it wave-dependant instead of aligning it with the individual figure included? ... I dunno, it's kinda dumb.

Not the big symbol, the smaller symbol near the name. I'd read (and I believe I'd seen) that several samples had the wrong symbol.

Huh, odd -- I'd never heard of that before. Do you have a picture?

I think I was actually misremembering.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:I think I was actually misremembering.

Happens to the best of us.

YoungPrime wrote:I'm tempted to buy this set, keep Pounce and sell the rest of it for $89.99 plus whatever I paid for shipping.

That and I hope the other 2 sets are exclusive to a retail store (like Target or Walmart) and NOT Amazon or somewhere else online.

Amazon exclusive sets are the BOMB. There is usually ample stock and ample room for discounts. Its also a store you are likely to get a gift card for if someone doesnt know what to give you for your birthday. Plus you dont run the risk of one store getting a bunch and another getting none.

Trust me, you hope the next store exclusive is Amazon.

Kurona wrote:Why is it wave-dependant instead of aligning it with the individual figure included? ... I dunno, it's kinda dumb.

Just a guess, but maybe printing the boxes that way, with wave based changes instead of individual changes, maybe it's a bit cheaper somehow?

Not that they wouldn't still need to change pictures and stuff anyway per figure, but I dunno, it's gotta have some benefit to Hasbro.

YoungPrime wrote:That and I hope the other 2 sets are exclusive to a retail store (like Target or Walmart) and NOT Amazon or somewhere else online.

No no no no no. Box sets never make it to retail stores in many areas (like mine). Anyone can get them online, particularly someplace like Amazon.

Optimum Supreme wrote:

Kurona wrote:Why is it wave-dependant instead of aligning it with the individual figure included? ... I dunno, it's kinda dumb.

Just a guess, but maybe printing the boxes that way, with wave based changes instead of individual changes, maybe it's a bit cheaper somehow?

Not that they wouldn't still need to change pictures and stuff anyway per figure, but I dunno, it's gotta have some benefit to Hasbro.

That's what I was thinking too... but then again, it's printed on the same piece of cardboard that has all the stuff specific to the character - name, art, renders, cross-sells etc.

Kurona wrote:

Optimum Supreme wrote:

Kurona wrote:Why is it wave-dependant instead of aligning it with the individual figure included? ... I dunno, it's kinda dumb.

Just a guess, but maybe printing the boxes that way, with wave based changes instead of individual changes, maybe it's a bit cheaper somehow?

Not that they wouldn't still need to change pictures and stuff anyway per figure, but I dunno, it's gotta have some benefit to Hasbro.

That's what I was thinking too... but then again, it's printed on the same piece of cardboard that has all the stuff specific to the character - name, art, renders, cross-sells etc.

Less man hours on layout from the packaging design studio, means lower cost to Hasbro. Most of Hasbro"s packaging design is out sourced to independent studios.

You guys wanna know what else is strange about the Siege on Cybertron set?

Magnus Prime's true identity... is Ultra Magnus.

Sabrblade wrote:You guys wanna know what else is strange about the Siege on Cybertron set?

Magnus Prime's true identity... is Ultra Magnus.

Explain please?

william-james88 wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:I think I was actually misremembering.

Happens to the best of us.

It's also possible that the original statement (wrong symbol on the box) was misinterpreted, and that lead to gospel. Also happens at times.

And Magnus Prime not being Ginrai? Surprising. You know, I can't deal with that right now, he'll be Ginrai in my book.

Sigma Magnus wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:You guys wanna know what else is strange about the Siege on Cybertron set?

Magnus Prime's true identity... is Ultra Magnus.

Explain please?

His toy bio describes him as City Commander with missile launchers, both of which when put together like that are aspects of Ultra Magnus.

This in turn reflects the 11th hour change from the planned redeco of the Leader class Ultra Magnus toy to a slight redeco of the Super Ginrai toy.

Sabrblade wrote:

Sigma Magnus wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:You guys wanna know what else is strange about the Siege on Cybertron set?

Magnus Prime's true identity... is Ultra Magnus.

Explain please?

His toy bio describes him as City Commander with missile launchers, both of which when put together like that are aspects of Ultra Magnus.

This in turn reflects the 11th hour change from the planned redeco of the Leader class Ultra Magnus toy to a slight redeco of the Super Ginrai toy.

Oh yeah, I forgot about that. It's a shame we'll never get that Diaclone repaint now.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Sigma Magnus wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:You guys wanna know what else is strange about the Siege on Cybertron set?

Magnus Prime's true identity... is Ultra Magnus.

Explain please?

His toy bio describes him as City Commander with missile launchers, both of which when put together like that are aspects of Ultra Magnus.

This in turn reflects the 11th hour change from the planned redeco of the Leader class Ultra Magnus toy to a slight redeco of the Super Ginrai toy.

Oh yeah, I forgot about that. It's a shame we'll never get that Diaclone repaint now.

The way I see it, this is discrimination towards non-Headmasters.

Full pics of the Siege on Cybertron set's toy bios.

I love tech specs -- thanks Sabrblade!

Full disclaimer: Not my pics.

Additional support to the last-minute Magnus Prime mold switch: His tech specs don't have a Titan Master boost.

Sigma Magnus wrote:Additional support to the last-minute Magnus Prime mold switch: His tech specs don't have a Titan Master boost.

Well, neither does Metalhawk. Only Tidal Wave does since he's the only sensible toy in the set for Thunderwing to be attached to. Pounce isn't compatible and the other two are Autobots.