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william-james88 wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:I'm still a bit annoyed at this idea of the box sets. Such things like that seem a bit ridiculous and aggravating for those who want only 1 of those characters (for me and K: Nautica)

Its been happening for years with Botcon toys though, and even platinum sets, and SDCC and Scrounge. But I agreem, it blows.

Most Botcon boxsets contained toys that had characters who were relevant to each other in the story (Tripedacus Council and their agents, Shattered Glass, etc.), and I haven't seen a single Platinum set whose characters weren't relevant to each other (Autobot Heroes had most of the protaganists together, Insecticons has all three insecticons, etc). There might be a few specific examples where that's not true, but that seems to be the minority.

The SDCC set and Scrounge you're completely right on though. I think people were more fine with the Titan Force set though because next to no-one wanted Windblade in that deco and there were all alternative (arguably superior) options for all those characters. There are currently absolutely no other options for the Autobot Clones, Quickswitch or Nautica which is what is really getting to people.

Sjeng wrote:okay, been seeing this a LOT: what is MTMTE??

an abbreviation for the comic series 'More Than Meets The Eye'

Sjeng wrote:okay, been seeing this a LOT: what is MTMTE??

More Than Meets The Eye, one of the current ongoing Transformers comic series by IDW. It's set in IDW's own Generation 1 continuity and since it's first issue in 2011 it's garnered a lot of popularity. A lot of toys in Generations are based on the specific designs in the series (Thrilling 30 Swerve and Skids, Combiner Wars Ultra Magnus etc.), hence there's a lot of people including myself who have taken to making their own MTMTE displays much like people make displays for Beast Wars, TFP, Animated etc.

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Sjeng wrote:okay, been seeing this a LOT: what is MTMTE??

an abbreviation for the comic series 'More Than Meets The Eye'

Aaaaaaah a comic series! tyvm

Sjeng wrote:okay, been seeing this a LOT: what is MTMTE??

The IDW comic series 'More Than Meets the Eye', some of the best Transformers fiction out there.

Sjeng wrote:okay, been seeing this a LOT: what is MTMTE??

Someone prob posted the answer before me......but it means....More Than Meets The Eye

william-james88 wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:I'm still a bit annoyed at this idea of the box sets. Such things like that seem a bit ridiculous and aggravating for those who want only 1 of those characters (for me and K: Nautica)

Same here.

At the least, these had better be better than just some bodies with new heads. If they are going to do this, there had better be some nice remolding with this.

I doubt it. Most Boxsets are just redecos, many dont even have new heads.

And that's all a box set should be, a fancy redeco of figures already available individually (unless it's a combiner since the combiner is the primary character being purchased). Only releasing new tooling in box sets of characters fans want individually is a slap in the face to those of us who don't have bottomless wallets.

i would want fastlane and cloudraker from that set cant they be sold as a boxset together. i would want Nautica too even though i dont know who she is. Three remolds in one boxset. Something Fishy about that .

Yeah, the clones being sold in a 2-pack makes a lot of sense. Hell, it's hard to imagine them not being sold together due to their nature. Just packing them in with a ton of others is... eugh.
I forget who Pounce and Wingspan are being sold with. I think it was Tidal Wave but who else?

Bradimus wrote:unless it's a combiner since the combiner is the primary character being purchased)

Even then, allthe combiners we got in boxsets were redecos and retools of pre-existing toys.

steals_your_goats wrote:Well the rumors already said that Nautica will be remolded from blurr, so there's that.

Yes you are definitely right on that. I just try to keep expectations at a reasonable level, as you knowme to do. Do you think Nautica would have more retooling from Blurr than any of the victorion components did from their original molds?

Sjeng wrote:okay, been seeing this a LOT: what is MTMTE??

You are in for a fun ride. I dont know if english comic books are easy to get for you on amazon, but if you can try ou the comics book series called More Than Meets The Eye. Easily the best fiction available right now for Transformers. Start with volume 1 to give it a shot. You will also see where a lot of designs on the toys come from, like taht little white character that came with Leader Ultra Magnus. Also, check out Last Stand of the Wreckers before if you have not already.

Kurona wrote:Most Botcon boxsets contained toys that had characters who were relevant to each other in the story (Tripedacus Council and their agents, Shattered Glass, etc.)

They did, but the one I was referring to was the Most Wanted set which was pure randomness

Kurona wrote:Yeah, the clones being sold in a 2-pack makes a lot of sense. Hell, it's hard to imagine them not being sold together due to their nature. Just packing them in with a ton of others is... eugh.
I forget who Pounce and Wingspan are being sold with. I think it was Tidal Wave but who else?

God bomber and Magnus prime

Kurona wrote:Yeah, the clones being sold in a 2-pack makes a lot of sense. Hell, it's hard to imagine them not being sold together due to their nature. Just packing them in with a ton of others is... eugh.
I forget who Pounce and Wingspan are being sold with. I think it was Tidal Wave but who else?

Godbomber and a Blue redeco of Powermaster Optimus.

Kurona wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:I'm still a bit annoyed at this idea of the box sets. Such things like that seem a bit ridiculous and aggravating for those who want only 1 of those characters (for me and K: Nautica)

Aye, if they were really gonna do a boxset they should've packaged characters with relevance to each other.
Like, you could put Nautica with Nightbeat, Getaway, Overlord and a MTMTE-styled Hot Rod with a new head (I know they all have individual retail releases; just as an example if this was gonna be the only way you could get them). It'd still be really annoying if you only want one of them, but at the very least you're more than likely to want all of those at some point - maybe not all at once, but most people would want them for MTMTE collections.

See, like this.

At least for those botcon sets (which are not standard retail, unlike say Victorion) there is fiction then that established them together. Putting those guys together would make almost no sense. I like the idea of putting guys together that make sense like that. A MTMTE styled box set could have been really cool and have gotten us some characters that otherwise would get no toy or wouldn't see individual release.

steals_your_goats wrote:

Kurona wrote:Yeah, the clones being sold in a 2-pack makes a lot of sense. Hell, it's hard to imagine them not being sold together due to their nature. Just packing them in with a ton of others is... eugh.
I forget who Pounce and Wingspan are being sold with. I think it was Tidal Wave but who else?

God bomber and Magnus prime

Oh, jeez, that's even worse! One of the figures is an add-on for a completely different figure so you're expected to pay another 50 on top of the boxset...

This is a new low for Hasbro, not gonna lie.

I just realized a Titan Master can sit in Galvatron's cannon. I'd provide a picture but I don't have one in a contrasting color.

william-james88 wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:Well the rumors already said that Nautica will be remolded from blurr, so there's that.

Yes you are definitely right on that. I just try to keep expectations at a reasonable level, as you knowme to do. Do you think Nautica would have more retooling from Blurr than any of the victorion components did from their original molds

Eh I think so. There won't be a ton of remolding but they talked about the shoulder fans already, the front needs to be rounded out and the cockpit area needs to be built up a bit. It's not much but I think it'll be all it needs to be if they do it.

steals_your_goats wrote:

Kurona wrote:Yeah, the clones being sold in a 2-pack makes a lot of sense. Hell, it's hard to imagine them not being sold together due to their nature. Just packing them in with a ton of others is... eugh.
I forget who Pounce and Wingspan are being sold with. I think it was Tidal Wave but who else?

God bomber and Magnus prime

I'm waiting to see how this works out before I buy PM Prime. As soon as I heard this rumor, I stopped planning to buy until I see how this works.

Kurona wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:

Kurona wrote:Yeah, the clones being sold in a 2-pack makes a lot of sense. Hell, it's hard to imagine them not being sold together due to their nature. Just packing them in with a ton of others is... eugh.
I forget who Pounce and Wingspan are being sold with. I think it was Tidal Wave but who else?

God bomber and Magnus prime

Oh, jeez, that's even worse! One of the figures is an add-on for a completely different figure so you're expected to pay another 50 on top of the boxset...

This is a new low for Hasbro, not gonna lie.

Magnus prime is a redeco of Powermaster prime so God bomber Will work with him. Not sure what you're going on about

steals_your_goats wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:Well the rumors already said that Nautica will be remolded from blurr, so there's that.

Yes you are definitely right on that. I just try to keep expectations at a reasonable level, as you knowme to do. Do you think Nautica would have more retooling from Blurr than any of the victorion components did from their original molds

Eh I think so. There won't be a ton of remolding but they talked about the shoulder fans already, the front needs to be rounded out and the cockpit area needs to be built up a bit. It's not much but I think it'll be all it needs to be if they do it.

I'm still very unsure about the idea. I can see it sorta working, but the chest to me will be a bit bothersome, considering the shape of her alt mode cockpit to chest armor

steals_your_goats wrote:

Kurona wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:

Kurona wrote:Yeah, the clones being sold in a 2-pack makes a lot of sense. Hell, it's hard to imagine them not being sold together due to their nature. Just packing them in with a ton of others is... eugh.
I forget who Pounce and Wingspan are being sold with. I think it was Tidal Wave but who else?

God bomber and Magnus prime

Oh, jeez, that's even worse! One of the figures is an add-on for a completely different figure so you're expected to pay another 50 on top of the boxset...

This is a new low for Hasbro, not gonna lie.

Magnus prime is a redeco of Powermaster prime so God bomber Will work with him. Not sure what you're going on about

Oh, I thought it was a redeco of Magnus. Last I heard of it it was the nigh-mandatory Delta Magnus redeco.

As much as I'm liking these leak lists (especially the one that included Blood and Carnivac), and the possibility of certain characters getting their first toy in 20 or so years, I'd really like to see some original characters out of some of these Titans Return molds.

I know that's not really how Generations works, but still, new guys would be cool. Like Rook! Rook was a swell toy.

Skull Grin wrote:As much as I'm liking these leak lists (especially the one that included Blood and Carnivac), and the possibility of certain characters getting their first toy in 20 or so years, I'd really like to see some original characters out of some of these Titans Return molds.

I know that's not really how Generations works, but still, new guys would be cool. Like Rook! Rook was a swell toy.

Agreed. Rook is my favorite mold of the CW line, so I look forward to more things like that. Nautica is a nice start for the line considering it will be her first ever toy

Logan79 wrote:Alpha Trion as Razorclaw^^

i know where past this but how did you do that

Skull Grin wrote:As much as I'm liking these leak lists (especially the one that included Blood and Carnivac), and the possibility of certain characters getting their first toy in 20 or so years, I'd really like to see some original characters out of some of these Titans Return molds.

I know that's not really how Generations works, but still, new guys would be cool. Like Rook! Rook was a swell toy.

If it helps, RiD 2015 has some pretty good toys that are made up almost completely of original characters (even if they share names with previous characters).
-Cue mandatory WJ88 responding to this post about how much he loves Fracture-

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

Kurona wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:I'm still a bit annoyed at this idea of the box sets. Such things like that seem a bit ridiculous and aggravating for those who want only 1 of those characters (for me and K: Nautica)

Aye, if they were really gonna do a boxset they should've packaged characters with relevance to each other.
Like, you could put Nautica with Nightbeat, Getaway, Overlord and a MTMTE-styled Hot Rod with a new head (I know they all have individual retail releases; just as an example if this was gonna be the only way you could get them). It'd still be really annoying if you only want one of them, but at the very least you're more than likely to want all of those at some point - maybe not all at once, but most people would want them for MTMTE collections.

See, like this.

At least for those botcon sets (which are not standard retail, unlike say Victorion) there is fiction then that established them together. Putting those guys together would make almost no sense. I like the idea of putting guys together that make sense like that. A MTMTE styled box set could have been really cool and have gotten us some characters that otherwise would get no toy or wouldn't see individual release.

I think it would have been great to tie in with the big showdown in MTMTE - it was a significant moment in the comics, and would have offered an excuse to release some sort of non-standard versions of standard characters. They could have redeco'ed Leader Class TM Optimus as "Ultra Maximus" (with Minimus Ambus forming his head). They could have included extra Titan Master's with robot modes that look like Rewind and Swerve so that they could operate his shoulder cannons, just like the comics. The Voyager class for the box could have been Autobot Megatron, and the deluxes could have been Nautica, Hot Rod, and Chromedome. Want some more variation? Make use of some clear parts or bright colors to make Megatron anti-matter charged and the deluxes super-charged or battle-damaged, just like in the comic.

Edit:

And the Autobot and Decepticon clones really seem like they should have been a pair of Wal-Mart Holiday exclusive two-packs.