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Caelus wrote:extra Titan Master's with robot modes that look like Rewind and Swerve so that they could operate his shoulder cannons, just like the comics.

When I get the PM Prime mold, that is what I intend to do with Nightbeat and another character, having them pilot shoulder cannons. And their vehicles will become weapons for my combiners

Kurona wrote:If it helps, RiD 2015 has some pretty good toys that are made up almost completely of original characters (even if they share names with previous characters).

That's probably what prevented a possible TR Steeljaw from being released

And all those names are making me dizzy. I'm just gonna wait things out...

Bradimus wrote:I just realized a Titan Master can sit in Galvatron's cannon. I'd provide a picture but I don't have one in a contrasting color.

Well I'll be. That's a good find! nice little un-advertised feature. It does nothing for his elbow articulation, sadly.

Also, be warned! Fitting a Titan Master in there is a bit of a squeeze.

Caelus wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

Kurona wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:I'm still a bit annoyed at this idea of the box sets. Such things like that seem a bit ridiculous and aggravating for those who want only 1 of those characters (for me and K: Nautica)

Aye, if they were really gonna do a boxset they should've packaged characters with relevance to each other.
Like, you could put Nautica with Nightbeat, Getaway, Overlord and a MTMTE-styled Hot Rod with a new head (I know they all have individual retail releases; just as an example if this was gonna be the only way you could get them). It'd still be really annoying if you only want one of them, but at the very least you're more than likely to want all of those at some point - maybe not all at once, but most people would want them for MTMTE collections.

See, like this.

At least for those botcon sets (which are not standard retail, unlike say Victorion) there is fiction then that established them together. Putting those guys together would make almost no sense. I like the idea of putting guys together that make sense like that. A MTMTE styled box set could have been really cool and have gotten us some characters that otherwise would get no toy or wouldn't see individual release.

I think it would have been great to tie in with the big showdown in MTMTE - it was a significant moment in the comics, and would have offered an excuse to release some sort of non-standard versions of standard characters. They could have redeco'ed Leader Class TM Optimus as "Ultra Maximus" (with Minimus Ambus forming his head). They could have included extra Titan Master's with robot modes that look like Rewind and Swerve so that they could operate his shoulder cannons, just like the comics. The Voyager class for the box could have been Autobot Megatron, and the deluxes could have been Nautica, Hot Rod, and Chromedome. Want some more variation? Make use of some clear parts or bright colors to make Megatron anti-matter charged and the deluxes super-charged or battle-damaged, just like in the comic.

And it could come with a sticker sheet of those ridiculously expressive Autobot symbols.

Heck, they could even take advantage of the boxset's nature by putting a MTMTE-coloured RiD Ratchet in there!

King Kuuga wrote:

Bradimus wrote:I just realized a Titan Master can sit in Galvatron's cannon. I'd provide a picture but I don't have one in a contrasting color.

Well I'll be. That's a good find! nice little un-advertised feature. It does nothing for his elbow articulation, sadly.

I've been treating TR Galvatron like Armada Megatron - a guy going around and forcibly collecting the little power up dudes. He's got four of them in or on him:
- One on his noggin (obviously)
- One in his cannon, but has it flipped back rather than propped up, so that the little guy is 'trapped' in there.
- One in his cockpit, on his back
- One in his hand being shoved into his chest - the Titan Masters' little arms can be gripped as a 5mm post.

I could probably fit two in his chest, it's surprisingly roomy in robot mode.

Kurona wrote:And it could come with a sticker sheet of those ridiculously expressive Autobot symbols.

Bwahahaha - that would be hilarious.

Kurona wrote:Heck, they could even take advantage of the boxset's nature by putting a MTMTE-coloured RiD Ratchet in there!

Yeah, it strikes me that that's really where the box-sets shine. They provide a reasonable opportunity to revive older sculpts, or cross-line new ones. Everything is movie anniversary right now, but can you imagine how well a City of Stone box-set would sell? With new RiD Ratchet, Generations Drift, and old RiD Megatron as Gigatron?

And really, the new IDW Revolution series seems like it should provide the basis for a lot of clever box-sets.

Where is the actual proof that these characters will only receive new toys in a box set?

Caelus wrote:

King Kuuga wrote:

Bradimus wrote:I just realized a Titan Master can sit in Galvatron's cannon. I'd provide a picture but I don't have one in a contrasting color.

Well I'll be. That's a good find! nice little un-advertised feature. It does nothing for his elbow articulation, sadly.

I've been treating TR Galvatron like Armada Megatron - a guy going around and forcibly collecting the little power up dudes. He's got four of them in or on him:
- One on his noggin (obviously)
- One in his cannon, but has it flipped back rather than propped up, so that the little guy is 'trapped' in there.
- One in his cockpit, on his back
- One in his hand being shoved into his chest - the Titan Masters' little arms can be gripped as a 5mm post.

I could probably fit two in his chest, it's surprisingly roomy in robot mode.

Y'know, that fits him really well.

Nemesis Maximo wrote:Where is the actual proof that these characters will only receive new toys in a box set?

none just going off of what one of the leaks said
i hope that they are not going to be a boxset. i wouldnt mind the twins being a boxset but not the others with them

Nemesis Maximo wrote:Where is the actual proof that these characters will only receive new toys in a box set?

Nobody said that? It's pretty excepted that most of the figures would be repaints or remolds. That being said I do think that the clones will get their own molds because that's the only way they could work well.

steals_your_goats wrote:

Nemesis Maximo wrote:Where is the actual proof that these characters will only receive new toys in a box set?

Nobody said that? It's pretty excepted that most of the figures would be repaints or remolds. That being said I do think that the clones will get their own molds because that's the only way they could work well.

You probably haven't seen the digibashes of Blurr and Brainstorm then They look similar enough for the Clone gimmick to work, I mean, BotCon 2014 "Pounce" and "Wingspan" out of both types of RiD Vehicon got away with it.

I still don't think it works when the whole point is that you're not supposed to be able to tell which is which.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:

Nemesis Maximo wrote:Where is the actual proof that these characters will only receive new toys in a box set?

Nobody said that? It's pretty excepted that most of the figures would be repaints or remolds. That being said I do think that the clones will get their own molds because that's the only way they could work well.

You probably haven't seen the digibashes of Blurr and Brainstorm then They look similar enough for the Clone gimmick to work, I mean, BotCon 2014 "Pounce" and "Wingspan" out of both types of RiD Vehicon got away with it.

No I've seen them but they're not good. Fastlane is a ground vehicle and blurr doesn't look anything like the original. Plus with Nautica being from the blurr mold there's no way they would use the same mold 3 times in the same box set. Pounce and wingspan worked decently from funpub because they still retained the base idea of ground based alt mode and air based alt mode. But that has no bearing on the new ones because there's not two existing animal molds that work.

Kurona wrote:I still don't think it works when the whole point is that you're not supposed to be able to tell which is which.

Well, even on the originals there were some clues, like the wings and big wheels...

Agamemnon wrote:

Kurona wrote:I still don't think it works when the whole point is that you're not supposed to be able to tell which is which.

Well, even on the originals there were some clues, like the wings and big wheels...

This is very true... they weren't very good at it. But I believe the point of an update would be to improve upon the original - especially when Blurr and Brainstorm redecoes would just make it even more obvious. You don't even have to tilt it to the side a little to see one has wings and the other doesn't!

william-james88 wrote:

Autobot N wrote:If there is any chance for another voyager, it would be in a boxset unless Snapdragon and Apeface are not voyagers, which would suck. It could be battletrap and flywheels instead but that would mean 3 mainline relases of the Blitzwing voyager mold, which strikes me as odd (but not unheard of, CW rleasd the Optimus voyager mold 3 times that year)


This would be pretty awesome.

WJ, what would be the third Blitzwing?
1. Megatron, 2. Blitzwing, 3. ??????

Thanks

TK415 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Autobot N wrote:If there is any chance for another voyager, it would be in a boxset unless Snapdragon and Apeface are not voyagers, which would suck. It could be battletrap and flywheels instead but that would mean 3 mainline relases of the Blitzwing voyager mold, which strikes me as odd (but not unheard of, CW rleasd the Optimus voyager mold 3 times that year)


This would be pretty awesome.

WJ, what would be the third Blitzwing?
1. Megatron, 2. Blitzwing, 3. ??????

Thanks

Flywheels.

Kurona wrote:

TK415 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Autobot N wrote:If there is any chance for another voyager, it would be in a boxset unless Snapdragon and Apeface are not voyagers, which would suck. It could be battletrap and flywheels instead but that would mean 3 mainline relases of the Blitzwing voyager mold, which strikes me as odd (but not unheard of, CW rleasd the Optimus voyager mold 3 times that year)


This would be pretty awesome.

WJ, what would be the third Blitzwing?
1. Megatron, 2. Blitzwing, 3. ??????

Thanks

Flywheels.

Awesome, Thanks Kurona.

Caelus wrote:

Kurona wrote:And it could come with a sticker sheet of those ridiculously expressive Autobot symbols.

Yes please. We sorely need emotive autobot emblems

Bumblebee21 wrote:

Logan79 wrote:Alpha Trion as Razorclaw^^

i know where past this but how did you do that

he laid them flat on a table, and turned the picture 90°

william-james88 wrote:

Autobot N wrote:Found something interesting on TFW2005. Take with many grains of salt.[code][/code]

Yeah, I saw that. But this one has really no tangible source. I still wouldnt be surprised if they all happen though and i will have a ton of fun right now breaking it down to see how they could all be issued within next year in the model we currently have.

Deluxes
•Getaway
•Hot Rod
•Doublecross
•Triggerhappy
•Quake
•Croc
•Topspin
•Kup
•Perceptor
•Crosshairs
•Slugslinger
•Misfire
•Needlenose
•Nightbeat

Only 14 out of 16 possible, it could be that those I listed in the titan master section would be here instead.

I think a Mindwipe -> Swoop/Ptero retool is fairly likely. They have the head. They have most of the body. New mini-wings, new beast-mode head, new robot mode torso, Ptero Titan Master included. Red torso -> Hasbro, Blue Torso -> Takara.

Skullsmasher could make a pretty convincing Snarl, especially if you flip the body around and put a small head where the tail goes and replace the head with a tail.

Dinobot also seems unaccounted for given previous rumors. Although with the easy conversions we've seen applied to Fall of Cybertron Grimlock by fans, I lean towards the idea that a FoC retool (possibly with some RiD Grimlock retool elements; a "Frankentool") could be used for Grimlock/Dinobot/Clobber, probably with a crown element built in.

Likewise, I can see Arcee just being a Generations Arcee with a modded cockpit and head attachment. They're going light on Generations molds being retooled/re-engineered for TR (technically we haven't seen any so far aside from Chromedome) but I can see FoC/RiD Grimlock and Generations Arcee being well received enough molds.

I'm on the fence but I can also see Highbrow -> Springer late in the line. Actually, you know what would be cool? Titan Master Springer packaged with TWO bodies. Chromedome AND Highbrow in Springer decos. That's a different way to accomplish the triple changer gimmick on a budget and two bodies sold with one head will help move the TM standalone heads.

Sjeng wrote:

Bumblebee21 wrote:

Logan79 wrote:Alpha Trion as Razorclaw^^

i know where past this but how did you do that

he laid them flat on a table, and turned the picture 90°

Exactly, it's only to give an idea

Logan79 wrote:

Sjeng wrote:

Bumblebee21 wrote:

Logan79 wrote:Alpha Trion as Razorclaw^^

i know where past this but how did you do that

he laid them flat on a table, and turned the picture 90°

Exactly, it's only to give an idea

Epic. Now if only Hasbro will make this. They vetter

I'm not entirely sure how much I like the idea...
But in any case a Predaking would need quite a few more pieces than the other combiners which could be a problem. In addition to the hands and feet you need his huge wrist gun, huge Bruticus-esque back cannons and huge sword and I doubt all of those can come with Razorclaw at the Voyager price point... makes me worry they'll make the gun a targetmaster.

Still, suppose they could get around it with one of each back cannon coming with Tantrum and Headstrong; the x-ray wrist gun coming in two parts, one each with Rampage and Divebomb and Razorclaw comes with the sword in two bits like Motormaster.

Kurona wrote:In addition to the hands and feet you need his huge wrist gun, huge Bruticus-esque back cannons

Hands and feet aren't a big deal since Computron got unique hands and feet. The wrist/arm gun and double back canons (used for lion mode) were the same piece, just backwards. Or do you mean the ones from the cartoon? Those weren't on the original toy so I don't feel any need for them on the figure. They could do something simplified by giving him both a single barrel and double barrel gun that can be combined for Predaking. My main concern would be how big they can make Divebomb's wings and if they can give him a proper sword.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

Kurona wrote:In addition to the hands and feet you need his huge wrist gun, huge Bruticus-esque back cannons

Hands and feet aren't a big deal since Computron got unique hands and feet. The wrist/arm gun and double back canons (used for lion mode) were the same piece, just backwards. Or do you mean the ones from the cartoon? Those weren't on the original toy so I don't feel any need for them on the figure. They could do something simplified by giving him both a single barrel and double barrel gun that can be combined for Predaking. My main concern would be how big they can make Divebomb's wings and if they can give him a proper sword.

Emerje

The back cannons make up a significant part of his body silhouette by this point due to having made it into almost every media Predaking has been featured in - G1 Cartoon, Zone, Marvel, G1 Manga... I think the only fiction it wasn't featured in was Dreamwave and, uh, if anyone liked Dreamwave it wasn't exactly upon the merits of it's art. So I feel it would make a lot of sense for them to make it into an eventual toy since it's a big part of the character's look.

The wings are concerning me too, yeah. At the end of the day I think the simplest solution would just be to make Divebomb's wings detachable and able to be put onto Predaking's back (hopefully any combiner's back). They could probably deal with the size by just adding extended feathers that can unfurl from the back, a bit like how Cybertron Wing Saber's wings can extend for when he combines with Optimus.