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Stuartmaximus wrote:
it's still referred to as a Transtector isn't it?(the body the head attaches to) or am i wrong on that?

That hasnt been confirmed.

DragonsMan217 wrote:Is there no way to take off the visor? I kinda would like him without it.

Welcome to Seibertron!

You can take off the helmet and just have him be a head. But the visor is attached to the helmet.

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:That's a very good point! coz the Bumblebee issue has been raised before in the CW threads.....as to why they never included him? i guess we'll have to wait n see

Maybe hasbro has finally become aware of how tired we are of 'bee. Since he's already the star of a show, they don't want to put us over the edge by including him in every gen line too

aye true, we still don't know what's over the horizon with the Titan line yet? so maybe Bee'll be in there somewhere, but i'm not holding my breath.

Nor, am I, I'm honestly tired of seeing that little yellow **** on shelves; I'd be really happy if they dug out hotshot and gave him a chance to revel in the spotlight for a bit; he's way more compelling than bee ever was, and made for a better personality than any of the recent character archetypes - one reason I enjoy sideswipe so much in rid

well at least we're getting a CW Wheeljack

Stuartmaximus wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:That's a very good point! coz the Bumblebee issue has been raised before in the CW threads.....as to why they never included him? i guess we'll have to wait n see

Maybe hasbro has finally become aware of how tired we are of 'bee. Since he's already the star of a show, they don't want to put us over the edge by including him in every gen line too

aye true, we still don't know what's over the horizon with the Titan line yet? so maybe Bee'll be in there somewhere, but i'm not holding my breath.

Nor, am I, I'm honestly tired of seeing that little yellow **** on shelves; I'd be really happy if they dug out hotshot and gave him a chance to revel in the spotlight for a bit; he's way more compelling than bee ever was, and made for a better personality than any of the recent character archetypes - one reason I enjoy sideswipe so much in rid

well at least we're getting a CW Wheeljack

Well, I'm happy for you, personally, he's lacking one too many paint apps, so I will be skipping him. TT would probably make him sexy; or make him into exhaust for an evil Sky Lynx

DragonsMan217 wrote:Is there no way to take off the visor? I kinda would like him without it.

Welcome to the boards; unfortunately, many of those heads were designed to fit into a helmet and thus are kinda misporportioned without it, but you can leave the helmet off

steals_your_goats wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:funnily enough no mention of Megatron in the Titan Wars lineup yet?

We just got a pretty nice Megatron in combiner wars, I hope they just leave him alone and save a spot for another character

Be careful what you wish for. The end result could be Megs slot going for yet another .

Funny aside, my 7 year old and his cousins of a similar age love autobots, can you guess which two specifically? I'm glad the deployers came out for RID because without Fracture it would be all . Hasbro has their target audience nailed. At least his favorite toy is disc Laserbeak.

Sabrblade wrote:Re:Blaster - How easily people forget that Blaster has had three modern update toys before this one, all smaller than this Leader one, even:





FOC Blaster was repurposed as a version of G1 Blaster via the Cloud fiction.


It's not like this Leader is the end-all be-all only 1st party CHUG Blaster option.

Not exactly a proper buffet of options.

Showing the Universe/Cybertron version is like arguing that Cybertron Blurr should be good enough.

Had Device Label not been a specialty release and not been in the realm of 3P pricing as he was, then he would/should count. Especially due to his ability to take standard size tapes.

The FoC version really doesn't work as a standard bearer either. He had the potential to and I think there's a bit of validity to the argument that he's a true update. It just didn't take. The discs weren't loved and that body style/alt style just didn't get traction with the fans.

To quote a friend, I hear ya, but I don't feel ya on this.

Counterpunch wrote:Showing the Universe/Cybertron version is like arguing that Cybertron Blurr should be good enough.

That toy has always been G1 Blaster, being released as that character a good two years after the Cybertron line died.

Stuartmaximus wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:They can call it whatever they want, but that cheap little bastard is Megatron and we all Damn well know it.

*sigh* it just feels cheap to me....if that does turn out to be the case

or at least they could've given him a leader class sized body to attach to(if Galvatron already isn't one).

Galvatron's a Voyager... as he was originally meant to be.

ah right, thanks

means he's gonna come up short....against Optimus

Actually the Powermaster mode version of G1 Optimus Prime was a bigger bot, which means that this Leader TR Optimus Prime is actually just about the right size compared to Galvatron, but WHO CARES as long as Galvatron is a voyager just like CW Cyclonus so they can scale it's cool. I am just hoping they release some Voyager Sweeps to go along with them, or at least the new larger deluxe size.

SillySpringer wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:They can call it whatever they want, but that cheap little bastard is Megatron and we all Damn well know it.

*sigh* it just feels cheap to me....if that does turn out to be the case

or at least they could've given him a leader class sized body to attach to(if Galvatron already isn't one).

Galvatron's a Voyager... as he was originally meant to be.

ah right, thanks

means he's gonna come up short....against Optimus

Actually the Powermaster mode version of G1 Optimus Prime was a bigger bot, which means that this Leader TR Optimus Prime is actually just about the right size compared to Galvatron, but WHO CARES as long as Galvatron is a voyager just like CW Cyclonus so they can scale it's cool. I am just hoping they release some Voyager Sweeps to go along with them, or at least the new larger deluxe size.

aye i've talked about the possibility of Sweeps for limbs before on this website! & people aren't really going for that idea in general, I'D like it to happen! & YOU'D like it to happen! but i think the general consensus is that it won't.

Sabrblade wrote:

Counterpunch wrote:Showing the Universe/Cybertron version is like arguing that Cybertron Blurr should be good enough.

That toy has always been G1 Blaster, being released as that character a good two years after the Cybertron line died.

I dont think he's refering the technicality of that Blaster being G1, but rather that he doesnt look like a decent update to G1 Blaster. At least not in the way Universe Hound or Classics Mirage look like updates of their G1 selves.

Sabrblade wrote:

Counterpunch wrote:Showing the Universe/Cybertron version is like arguing that Cybertron Blurr should be good enough.

That toy has always been G1 Blaster, being released as that character a good two years after the Cybertron line died.

I disagree.

His bio doesn't entirely insinuate this.

More to the point, other Voyager sized figures in Universe 2.0 refer to other continuities. For instance, Overload is 100% his Armada self.

To further muddy the waters, most of the cyber key bots in U2.0 have unpainted keys, denoting their otherworldly ties to other stories. Blaster's key is painted up as if it were (close to) appropriate for the Cybertron line.

And further, his partner bot, Blockrock, is stated to be a Mini-con in the same way that Cybertron Soundwave's was described as such.

I don't think this Blaster fits anywhere specifically. I feel he more rightly belongs with the Cybertron stuff as he would have been done in that line had it gone on a little longer. Universe 2.0 was a catch all at the end. Trying to pair up what the bios say to what the toys intuitively are designed for/representing is either an exercise in frustration or poor story telling.

Counterpunch wrote:Universe 2.0 was a catch all at the end. Trying to pair up what the bios say to what the toys intuitively are designed for/representing is either an exercise in frustration or poor story telling.

So along the same lines as to how not everythig in generations is G1 either.

william-james88 wrote:

SJ21 wrote:I just don't know if I'm buying this new Blaster. I like the Fall of Cybertron version of him and Soundwave. They scale well with my Classics. Their minions also scale well and they have the storage/eject gimmick.

As someone said above, Blaster wasn't a headmaster. He also never turned into a base and he's too big.

But he looks so good in bot mode.

I'm so conflicted.

Do like I am doing. Keep your foc soundwave and blaster for your classics, thats the soundwave in the comics anyways:




And get the blaster and soundwave to face off along with these guys in he new scale the gen line has given us (aka, the discount MP line)!

the only Classics I collect is the best representation of the G1 tv show character. If I go with the new TW Blaster, that means I have to get all the new minions, plus the Soundwave and all his minions. Total tape-deck shake-up! My wallet does not approve.

this is sooooo polly pocket

but acutally i like it ... too bad the combiner wars gestalts were not legend size i mean the limbs legend and deluxe size for torso ... my menasor galvatronus and (soon) bruticus they need too much space on my shelf ... i had to skip devastator cause it s way too too too big.


go for smaller figures but make it less hollow

Counterpunch wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Counterpunch wrote:Showing the Universe/Cybertron version is like arguing that Cybertron Blurr should be good enough.

That toy has always been G1 Blaster, being released as that character a good two years after the Cybertron line died.

I disagree.

His bio doesn't entirely insinuate this.

His bio is based on his Marvel comics backstory in which he was a resistance fighter with G1 Perceptor.

Counterpunch wrote:More to the point, other Voyager sized figures in Universe 2.0 refer to other continuities. For instance, Overload is 100% his Armada self.

Overload was sold under the label of "Cybertron Series". Blaster, however, was sold under the label of "Classic Series", like other Universe toys who were meant to be G1 updates in the same vein as the 2006 Classics line.

Compare:

Counterpunch wrote:To further muddy the waters, most of the cyber key bots in U2.0 have unpainted keys, denoting their otherworldly ties to other stories. Blaster's key is painted up as if it were (close to) appropriate for the Cybertron line.

Only three figures in the line (Dropshot, Vector Prime, and Overload) had unpainted keys. Every other new Universe-decoed toy release that came with a key in the line, regardless of what continuity label they were sold under, had keys with paint and/or tampos on them.

"Classic Series" Autobot Blaster:


"Classic Series" Decepticon Heavy Load:


"Classic Series" Autobot Blades:


"Classic Series" Decepticon Dropshot:


"Cybertron Series" Vector Prime:


"Cybertron Series" Overload:


"Beast Wars Series" Leo Prime (mass retail):


"Robots in Disguise Series" Predacon Bruticus:


"Beast Wars Series" Leo Prime (Target exclusive):


"G1 Series" Autobot Ambush: Autobot Roadbuster vs. Dirge (Target exclusive):



"War Within Series" Standoff Beneath the Streets: Springer vs. Ratbat (Target exclusive):



"Generation 1 Series" Autobot Countdown (Toys'R'Us exclusive):

Counterpunch wrote:And further, his partner bot, Blockrock, is stated to be a Mini-con in the same way that Cybertron Soundwave's was described as such.

Mini-Cons were introduced into G1 media as early as 2006, beginning with the Classics line itself.

Edit: NM

I'm arguing something that isn't worth debating here.

Counterpunch wrote:I consider most of those keys to be unpainted but I see where you're coming from.

I understand you sticking by what was printed on the box, but you also didn't respond to my last point, the one that really matters in all of it.

Catch all lines, like Universe 2.0 throw a lot of stuff together and reference a lot of past things without really committing to it.

Boiling it down, do you really think the U2.0 Blaster, with a scant bio and no other supporting figures or fiction, is really meant to be "Classics/Generations" Blaster or was that a convenient spot for a desirable, well intentioned if not late redeco for the Cybertron line to finally find a home?

The first year of the line, 2008, was pretty much all Classics-style updates of G1 characters for the Deluxe, Voyager, and Ultra toys of the line. It wasn't until the second year, 2009, that line really became more of a catch-all line with more toys representing updates of characters from non-G1 lines like Beast Wars, RiD, and the Unicron Trilogy. This shift in focus from being like a direct successor to the Classics line of 2006 to a broader line was most likely done as a means to further celebrate the 25th anniversary of the brand, as seen with the 2009 toys sporting a 25th Anniversary logo on their packaging that the 2008 toys didn't have.

With that said, because of the nature of the line in 2008 before aforementioned transition, and since Blaster was among the first toys released in the line's first year, I'd have to say that Blaster strikes me as being as much an updated version of the G1 character as the Classics release of Devastator being a redeco of Energon Constructicon Maximus was an updated version of G1 Devastator.

Though, looking at the Universe line's Voyagers at a glance, with Inferno being the only new-mold one, it really seems like Hasbro really didn't wanna make any new Voyagers for the line (with Inferno being an odd exception) and just saved themselves some money by just reusing Cybertron molds (even reusing one twice on Dropshot in 2008 and then again on Overload in 2009) and Classics Jetfire.

And if we can't trust what the packaging says, what can we trust? If Blaster's dubious, who's to say that Overload isn't who the box says he is either? After all, he has no supporting fiction for that body either.

Not overly impressed with blurr from first look, and now that he looks like this and with the current trends I dread seeing a hot Rod/Rodimus. They will make him look like his cartoon style and while that is all good and well I want a MTMTE style and we are already getting his masterpiece, so please use MTMTE for that one if it happens!

Also: I WANT BLASTER!

PPS: I want a headmaster Perceptor and Mainframe, just cuz

https://youtu.be/ai6Ru-OSe2o

clearer pics of Blurr at the end of the video by user Scaleface.

I wonder if they (TT or Hb) can feminize him into Elita-One as they share almost similar Transform modes.

fenrir72 wrote:https://youtu.be/ai6Ru-OSe2o

clearer pics of Blurr at the end of the video by user Scaleface.

I wonder if they (TT or Hb) can feminize him into Elita-One as they share almost similar Transform modes.

Wow, that is a lot of non-existent paint apps in his bot mode, hope that is very preliminary - but it probably isn't, based on the speculated source - might be time to go full TT with purchases as it seems hasbro is reaching an all-time low for amount of money spent making these figures look nice

Fellow Seibertronian Fenrir72 has brought us a youtube video from Retro Robot Radio which gives us a much larger picture of the Titans Return Blurr toy we were recently made aware of. This gives us all a much better look at the figure and it's detail. Let us know what you think in the discussion!

william-james88 wrote:

See Fenrir's post above.

Interesting. I really love the Generations version of him that I have, but I wonder how possible it would be to put the versions head onto this body. Do like an amalgamation of the IDW-ish and this new G1-ish toy.

So almost 0 paint apps are now acceptable?

Dammit Hasbro.