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D-Maximus_Prime wrote:I thought Magnus Prime was a boxset figure?

He is. Also, I didnt know Deathsaurus was considered breastforce.

william-james88 wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:I thought Magnus Prime was a boxset figure?

He is. Also, I didnt know Deathsaurus was considered breastforce.

Breastforce simply refers to the gimmick of having an animal that turns into a weapon that turns into chest armour. Just so happens that the only ones to have that are Deathsaurus and the Liokaiser components.
Deathsaurus actually had two breastforce dudes. A tiger and an eagle.

william-james88 wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:I thought Magnus Prime was a boxset figure?

He is. Also, I didnt know Deathsaurus was considered breastforce.

Yeah, the Breastforce refers to the chest armor/animal/Targetmaster gimmick, not just the Liokaiser team.

william-james88 wrote:Also, I didnt know Deathsaurus was considered breastforce.

He has the same gimmick as the others and, at the time, only Breastforce members had that gimmick. He just didn't combine with any of the others in the original lineup, much like how Star Saber was a Brainmaster but didn't combine with the other Brainmasters to form Road Caesar.

why is shockwave under boxsets

Talking of Deathsaurus, if he does come true; and I know we know nothing about him yet but... does anyone get the feeling he'll be a pretool of someone in the next Prime Wars line? Obscure Japanese-exclusive late G1 character, late in the line, it's a bit weird to have him of all guys take center stage... I dunno. Just feels like they wouldn't make him if they didn't have plans to make him into someone else.

Kurona wrote:Talking of Deathsaurus, if he does come true; and I know we know nothing about him yet but... does anyone get the feeling he'll be a pretool of someone in the next Prime Wars line? Obscure Japanese-exclusive late G1 character, late in the line, it's a bit weird to have him of all guys take center stage... I dunno. Just feels like they wouldn't make him if they didn't have plans to make him into someone else.

Isn't he kind of relevant in the current IDW comics? I mean, so too have Overlord and Black Shadow been and they're both of the same Japanese G1 category as Deszaras.

Sabrblade wrote:

Kurona wrote:Talking of Deathsaurus, if he does come true; and I know we know nothing about him yet but... does anyone get the feeling he'll be a pretool of someone in the next Prime Wars line? Obscure Japanese-exclusive late G1 character, late in the line, it's a bit weird to have him of all guys take center stage... I dunno. Just feels like they wouldn't make him if they didn't have plans to make him into someone else.

Isn't he kind of relevant in the current IDW comics? I mean, so too have Overlord and Black Shadow been and they're both of the same Japanese G1 category as Deszaras.

Not very. He appeared but he hasn't taken a main role; essentially just being the proxy through which Tarn got an army. He might take center stage later - and I do get the feeling he might be and I really hope he will - but for now he's very minor.

Kurona wrote:Talking of Deathsaurus, if he does come true; and I know we know nothing about him yet but... does anyone get the feeling he'll be a pretool of someone in the next Prime Wars line? Obscure Japanese-exclusive late G1 character, late in the line, it's a bit weird to have him of all guys take center stage... I dunno. Just feels like they wouldn't make him if they didn't have plans to make him into someone else.

The only pretool I can think of is Transmetal 2 Megatron.

Bumblebee21 wrote:why is shockwave under boxsets

No clue.

william-james88 wrote:

Bumblebee21 wrote:why is shockwave under boxsets

No clue.

i hope hes a leader
what are the chances he'll be a gun
they could call him a hairdryer

william-james88 wrote:

Kurona wrote:Talking of Deathsaurus, if he does come true; and I know we know nothing about him yet but... does anyone get the feeling he'll be a pretool of someone in the next Prime Wars line? Obscure Japanese-exclusive late G1 character, late in the line, it's a bit weird to have him of all guys take center stage... I dunno. Just feels like they wouldn't make him if they didn't have plans to make him into someone else.

The only pretool I can think of is Transmetal 2 Megatron.

Same here. His beast mode would need a new head, though.

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Kurona wrote:Talking of Deathsaurus, if he does come true; and I know we know nothing about him yet but... does anyone get the feeling he'll be a pretool of someone in the next Prime Wars line? Obscure Japanese-exclusive late G1 character, late in the line, it's a bit weird to have him of all guys take center stage... I dunno. Just feels like they wouldn't make him if they didn't have plans to make him into someone else.

The only pretool I can think of is Transmetal 2 Megatron.

Same here. His beast mode would need a new head, though.

Not a problem, it looks like all leaders are getting a decent amount of retooling in this line.

Ooooh my god yes, a new BW Megatron at retail. That would be amazing.

Even so, they can surprise us with pretools. I don't think any of us were expecting Sky Shadow to be an Overlord pretool - what if Deathsaurus is, say, Doubledealer?

I still think Dezarus will be a pretool of Grimlock. We're long overdue for a Leader of that figure and the transformations aren't all that different with the legs becoming the main body/tail and the arms becoming the legs. It would require a new alt mode head and wings, but that's about it.

Emerje

Grimlock and Deathsaurus is... certainly a strange thought. But we've had stranger.

Not sure about Grimlock being a Leader though. Ultra, sure, but...

Emerje wrote:I still think Dezarus will be a pretool of Grimlock. We're long overdue for a Leader of that figure and the transformations aren't all that different with the legs becoming the main body/tail and the arms becoming the legs. It would require a new alt mode head and wings, but that's about it.

Emerje

That makes sense especialyl since the dragon head is tucked away in the back, just as Grimlock's head would be.

Q: What miss-assembly in Titans Returns Sentinel Prime ?

And is it fixable ?

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Fun note I have yet to see a single Titans Returns toy in a UK store in any place around me even in ARGOS ; WHO IS 'PRETENDING' TO HAVE THEM IN THEIR CATALOGUE Has nothing.

Nothing in : TKMax, Tesco, Toymaster, Sainsbury's, Asda, Argos or anywhere else a few new clearanced items from RID & Combiner Wars have shown up - nothing like Canada got though.

If I want to buy Titans Returns I either have to travel 50 miles & back or buy online. the sole exception to that is the Blaster I did get in TK Maxx but they've had zip since then other than some RID Simba Dicki cars and one Rid Strongarm and Sawtooth set.

Shame really. I hope they wake up a bit soon - the stores are not even bothering with the new Star Wars stuff much either so they don't even have the excuse that it is blocking.

At this point I'd be flipping thrilled to even see a new Legion or Warrior class. heck even a 3 step Bisk would get me mildly excited at this point.

william-james88 wrote:

Bumblebee21 wrote:why is shockwave under boxsets

No clue.

He was located there in the original list:



Well, not quite. There are two Tidal Waves in there, the bottom one is the real one as evidenced by his Chinese name 潮汐波 Cháoxī Bō. The top one is probably Shockwave, as Micron Legends called Tidal Wave Shockwave.

There is a bit of a catch: their Chinese names don't match up except for the last character. The first means "Moon", don't know what the middle one is.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Bumblebee21 wrote:why is shockwave under boxsets

No clue.

He was located there in the original list:



Well, not quite. There are two Tidal Waves in there, the bottom one is the real one as evidenced by his Chinese name 潮汐波 Cháoxī Bō. The top one is probably Shockwave, as Micron Legends called Tidal Wave Shockwave.

There is a bit of a catch: their Chinese names don't match up except for the last character. The first means "Moon", don't know what the middle one is.

What if Shockwave is Tidal Wave's Titanmaster? Though I'm all for a teeny tiny Shockwave, I'd much prefer a bigger version to be released.

Actually,now that I mention it, CW Shockwave is a Titanmaster. His head can actually fit in the Titanmaster socket. I'll post a picture when I have the time.

Tidal Wave is going to be a new face redeco of Broadside so his Titan Master will be a recoloured Safeguard Beta Maxx Sovereign Blunderbuss.

Kurona wrote:Tidal Wave is going to be a new face redeco of Broadside so his Titan Master will be a recoloured Safeguard Beta Maxx Sovereign Blunderbuss.

I wonder what hell be called though. Will it be Ramjet as in reference to his Minicon, or a new guy?.

Decepticon Stryker wrote:

Kurona wrote:Tidal Wave is going to be a new face redeco of Broadside so his Titan Master will be a recoloured Safeguard Beta Maxx Sovereign Blunderbuss.

I wonder what hell be called though. Will it be Ramjet as in reference to his Minicon, or a new guy?.

Probably Ramjet.

Kurona wrote:

Decepticon Stryker wrote:

Kurona wrote:Tidal Wave is going to be a new face redeco of Broadside so his Titan Master will be a recoloured Safeguard Beta Maxx Sovereign Blunderbuss.

I wonder what hell be called though. Will it be Ramjet as in reference to his Minicon, or a new guy?.

Probably Ramjet.

No, he'll be called Powerhouse, according to a different rumor that had Tidal Wave as a redeco/retool of Broadside.

Kurona wrote:Grimlock and Deathsaurus is... certainly a strange thought. But we've had stranger.

Makes more sense than Sky Shadow from Overlord, at least they have very similar transformations.

Not sure about Grimlock being a Leader though. Ultra, sure, but...

Why wouldn't you want the biggest Grimlock possible? People are already using MP Grimlock as a substitute for a G1 Generations Grimlock and it's a better idea than Leader Seeker Jets.

Powerhouse being Tidal Wave's Titan Master seems to be a misunderstanding. Chainclaw was the one that first posted that back in February, but sources since then have contradicted him saying that Powerhouse is an exclusive die cast Titan Master.

Emerje