The Energon Pub

Is this relevant? Even if not, it's pretty funny.



From Diamchoc reviews.

Dr Lockdown wrote:Is this relevant? Even if not, it's pretty funny.



From Diamchoc reviews.

If you'll please excuse me, I need to go laugh uncontrollably for like ten minutes.


That image did just make me notice something though. Something that, now I've seen it, frustrates me no end.


WHY ARE GATORFACE'S LEGS BACKWARDS.

Like... I thought that if nothing else, the benefit of 3D renders would be accuracy compared to real-life stock images. But now they've not only failed to avoid plain old posing issues or mistransformation, they've somehow managed to actually misassemble a render.

A 3D model.

Habsro managed to DIGITALLY misassemble an item, consisting of exactly EIGHT pieces, which they not only created the 3D model for but actually DESIGNED the thing themselves. Literally a QUARTER of the pieces on it are attached incorrectly.

Just... how.

Qwan wrote:That image did just make me notice something though. Something that, now I've seen it, frustrates me no end.

WHY ARE GATORFACE'S LEGS BACKWARDS.

Like... I thought that if nothing else, the benefit of 3D renders would be accuracy compared to real-life stock images. But now they've not only failed to avoid plain old posing issues or mistransformation, they've somehow managed to actually misassemble a render.

A 3D model.

Habsro managed to DIGITALLY misassemble an item, consisting of exactly EIGHT pieces, which they not only created the 3D model for but actually DESIGNED the thing themselves. Literally a QUARTER of the pieces on it are attached incorrectly.

Just... how.

Yeah, I noticed it too after someone on TFW pointed it out. As for me, I prefer the lighting on real figures and these renders always put me off. Something can look great in renders but terrible in person, and visa versa. A perfect example is how cluttered Sky Lynx looked in renders, but in person the overdose on details was somewhat subdued through the white plastic.

Man, they look great!

Dr Lockdown wrote:

Qwan wrote:[Endless ranting]

Yeah, I noticed it too after someone on TFW pointed it out. As for me, I prefer the lighting on real figures and these renders always put me off. Something can look great in renders but terrible in person, and visa versa. A perfect example is how cluttered Sky Lynx looked in renders, but in person the overdose on details was somewhat subdued through the white plastic.

I agree that 3D renders aren't the best way to approach stock images (about 12 hours late to this discussion aren't I?) but I do appreciate some things about them. Particularly, the lower rate of errors (not total absence of them, as is obvious ) and the relative accuracy of deco.

Back when stock images were done with photos of a painted sample, the figure itself definitely looked more realistic, but it often had more and different deco choices which I always found frustratingly misleading. (And they would be especially so in the modern internet age, where we often see stock images before anything else of a new toy. That whole deal with TR Galvatron between his reveal and the final product? That's probably what we'd be seeing with most toys revealed via stock images.) So while 3D renders have their pitfalls and I'm not particularly fond of them (I agree that it's often hard to get a good feel for a figure from a clearly-computer-generated stock image), it's always worth remembering that the grass isn't really any greener on the other side - just a different shade of green. A different shade of green that's actually been painted onto the grass in order to make it look more premium than it is in reality.

...Where was I going with this again?

Emerje wrote:
You know, because of frag grenades and Snapdragon is a t-rex...

Emerje

Snap Dragon isnt a Dragon?

william-james88 wrote:

Emerje wrote:
You know, because of frag grenades and Snapdragon is a t-rex...

Emerje

Snap Dragon isnt a Dragon?

No. He's a Dragon Man!! Uh, I mean, just a Dragon....

The way i see the Bayformers logo
the way more i feel disgust
Glad these two in the Australia Toy Fair they got their original Japanese logos

william-james88 wrote:

Emerje wrote:
You know, because of frag grenades and Snapdragon is a t-rex...

Emerje

Snap Dragon isnt a Dragon?

And Apeface is just an Ape with no face?
now i'm waiting for confirmations of these two as Voyagers

Looking at the renders, Misfire is gorgeous. Definite buy. Slugslinger I'm still not sure on. The face is kinda...off.

Black Hat wrote:Looking at the renders, Misfire is gorgeous. Definite buy. Slugslinger I'm still not sure on. The face is kinda...off.

its super off

No matter how i see Megajet in this G1 image

and comparing it with the latest..... it still amuses me

william-james88 wrote:

Black Hat wrote:Looking at the renders, Misfire is gorgeous. Definite buy. Slugslinger I'm still not sure on. The face is kinda...off.

its super off

Yeesh, looking back at the pics...you're right. Those eyes, man. The rest of the figure still looks good but goddamnit that faceplate is gonna have to go. Praise Shapeways!

A shame that AFAIK Energon Slugslinger has such a floppy transformation and neither mode holds together all that well, because IMO he's one of the coolest looking jetformers we've ever gotten. Those wings, that shoulder cannon, that face...

Black Hat wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Black Hat wrote:Looking at the renders, Misfire is gorgeous. Definite buy. Slugslinger I'm still not sure on. The face is kinda...off.

its super off

Yeesh, looking back at the pics...you're right. Those eyes, man. The rest of the figure still looks good but goddamnit that faceplate is gonna have to go. Praise Shapeways!

A shame that AFAIK Energon Slugslinger has such a floppy transformation and neither mode holds together all that well, because IMO he's one of the coolest looking jetformers we've ever gotten. Those wings, that shoulder cannon, that face...

I will just put Topspin's head on it (or even Siren's, I just want a visor) and call it a day.

william-james88 wrote:

Black Hat wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Black Hat wrote:Looking at the renders, Misfire is gorgeous. Definite buy. Slugslinger I'm still not sure on. The face is kinda...off.

its super off

Yeesh, looking back at the pics...you're right. Those eyes, man. The rest of the figure still looks good but goddamnit that faceplate is gonna have to go. Praise Shapeways!

A shame that AFAIK Energon Slugslinger has such a floppy transformation and neither mode holds together all that well, because IMO he's one of the coolest looking jetformers we've ever gotten. Those wings, that shoulder cannon, that face...

I will just put Topspin's head on it (or even Siren's, I just want a visor) and call it a day.

What head will you pub on Topspin then?

RodimusConvoy13 wrote:
What head will you pub on Topspin then?

Dont know, he might stay in vehicle mode when Slugslinger is in robot mode.

Siren, Slugslinger and Top Spin - the holy trinity of rotating work hours Headmasters.

william-james88 wrote:

Black Hat wrote:Looking at the renders, Misfire is gorgeous. Definite buy. Slugslinger I'm still not sure on. The face is kinda...off.

its super off

Trying to remember where I'd seen eyes like that before. Then it dawned on me.



You think it's just a John Warden style thang?

I think its just a cartoon thing, which is unexpected for hasbro

william-james88 wrote:I think its just a cartoon thing, which is unexpected for hasbro

Ah. OK.
I was also thinking maybe it was to differentiate the two a little more since both the G1 toys are rockin' the shades.

william-james88 wrote:I think its just a cartoon thing, which is unexpected for hasbro

At least in the Japanese animated series he knew how to hold his weapon

Those arms do ruin what's otherwise a really nice ship mode for Misfire but the robot mode is far too wing-kibbly for me. Slugslinger is just kinda boring in both modes but a suitable update for fans of the original figure.

Cobotron wrote:

william-james88 wrote:I think its just a cartoon thing, which is unexpected for hasbro

Ah. OK.
I was also thinking maybe it was to differentiate the two a little more since both the G1 toys are rockin' the shades.

Actually...



Misfire's toy had eyes. The cartoon mixed em up - Rumble and Frenzy all over again

Decepticon Stryker wrote:

LE0KING wrote:

Decepticon Stryker wrote:Anyone else have a screw fall out of their Powermaster Prime but not find where it came from?

It's not the one that connects the trailer to the cab is it? That's the only thing I can think of for you.

No, I've searched all over the figure and can't seem to find a place for it. I'm starting to think it was an extra screw that somehow wound up in the box. The figure doesn't seem to be having any problems.

Haven't had that issue with mine. Personally, I think you've got a screw loose.

I just view those arms on Misfire's jet mode as intastellar boosters, allowing him to travel from planet to planet, or a massive speed boost over other flyers in the atmosphere. And I'm glad Slugslinger has the toon eyes, since 1) it's what I'm used to and 2)It helps make him different from Misfire who has shades.