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TakaraTomy prices have got me so confounded that paying $111 *just* for Metalhawk seems like something I'd do.

I couldn't get myself to pay the prices for TT Legends. Definitely glad I didn't go with TT Ginrai. The asking price on that was too much for me, and yea, makes this $100 box set seem a steal. Kinda wish I didn't get Triggerhappy though. I'm not familiar with the character and don't need 2 of this mold. Metalhawk would have been fine. I'm pretty excited for this set. BTW, I'm a bit out of the loop. Does Pounce share a mold with another figure?

Out of curiosity, how long you guys think before this set sells out?

Pre-ordered!!

And I think Pounce and fastlane share a similar base, as will their twins. The design looks similar, and I think the transformations are similar

One assumes Pounce shares a mould with Wingspan. But we haven't seen him yet.


I would love to get this set. Thunderwing is the only one I'm not interested in.

nycPrime wrote:I couldn't get myself to pay the prices for TT Legends. Definitely glad I didn't go with TT Ginrai. The asking price on that was too much for me, and yea, makes this $100 box set seem a steal. Kinda wish I didn't get Triggerhappy though. I'm not familiar with the character and don't need 2 of this mold. Metalhawk would have been fine. I'm pretty excited for this set. BTW, I'm a bit out of the loop. Does Pounce share a mold with another figure?

Right? Even in Japan, Super Ginrai's price on the secondary market it something like $135. This set is cheaper...and includes 4 other toys!

Does anyone know where this will be available in the U.K.?

Insurgent wrote:One assumes Pounce shares a mould with Wingspan. But we haven't seen him yet.


I would love to get this set. Thunderwing is the only one I'm not interested in.

It will be. Just like the Autobot clones they will share the over all mold together with some slight tooling

Pre-Ordered The Cybertron Set as well. I just wish there was a way to speak to a "live" person at BBTS rather than their customer service e-mail which never answers any questions (2 weeks ago they "knew nothing" of this set...now here it is? I'm sure the exclusivity of this set in the United States being through BBTS was something vetted a long time ago, as was stated at ToyFair back in February).

Anyway, it states estimated arrival is late July. So about four months in-between the first & second set. Last Year CW & UW box sets were being released with regularity about every 60 days. If the four month time duration between sets remains we wont see the 3rd set until November, and the 4th until March 2018! Hopefully that will nto be the case. Hopefully the last 2 sets come before end of year. I'm thinking/hoping Hasbro wants to start 2018 fresh with a new line.

So in thinking about the boxsets, could Optimus Prime be the thing that ties them altogether. While I doubt it, it may actually happen.

Here is what I noticed:

1. Chaos on Velocitron: Laser Prime Voyager
2. Siege on Cybertron: Magnus Prime Leader
3. There is a potential deluxe Orion Pax coming
4. Then just a diecast Titan Master for Box set 4.

This would give us an Optimus figure at every class in the boxset besides the "special" Clones class.

Again, do I think this is likely what they are doing? No. But, it is interesting that so far both boxsets in TR have had an Optimus, and there is an extremely high likelihood of an Orion Pax coming too.

Where do I get it for the UK and for how the much? I want Magnus Prime. I'd probably keep the Thunderwing head since it's so small. I'd sell off the other figures cos none of them interest me at all.

o.supreme wrote:Pre-Ordered The Cybertron Set as well. I just wish there was a way to speak to a "live" person at BBTS rather than their customer service e-mail which never answers any questions (2 weeks ago they "knew nothing" of this set...now here it is? I'm sure the exclusivity of this set in the United States being through BBTS was something vetted a long time ago, as was stated at ToyFair back in February).

Anyway, it states estimated arrival is late July. So about four months in-between the first & second set. Last Year CW & UW box sets were being released with regularity about every 60 days. If the four month time duration between sets remains we wont see the 3rd set until November, and the 4th until March 2018! Hopefully that will nto be the case. Hopefully the last 2 sets come before end of year. I'm thinking/hoping Hasbro wants to start 2018 fresh with a new line.

Well what do you expect? BBTS carries over a thousand brands. I work in retail and you have no idea how annoying it is when someone asks "when is this happening?" I have no idea.

Well, I wish I'd know they were going to release this version of Prime here, I probably wouldn't have gotten the Takara one. But I too have preordered it. Would have been nice to see the Alt versions.

mordhelm wrote:So in thinking about the boxsets, could Optimus Prime be the thing that ties them altogether. While I doubt it, it may actually happen.

Here is what I noticed:

1. Chaos on Velocitron: Laser Prime Voyager
2. Siege on Cybertron: Magnus Prime Leader
3. There is a potential deluxe Orion Pax coming
4. Then just a diecast Titan Master for Box set 4.

This would give us an Optimus figure at every class in the boxset besides the "special" Clones class.

Again, do I think this is likely what they are doing? No. But, it is interesting that so far both boxsets in TR have had an Optimus, and there is an extremely high likelihood of an Orion Pax coming too.

The Magnus Prime isn't technically Optimus. It's actually the transtector Ginrai from super god master force that came to life at the end apparently. According to tfwiki and they only post officia stuff.

But yeah it's something I've noticed too that it's possible we're getting an "optimus" maybe in every box

mordhelm wrote:So in thinking about the boxsets, could Optimus Prime be the thing that ties them altogether. While I doubt it, it may actually happen.

Here is what I noticed:

1. Chaos on Velocitron: Laser Prime Voyager
2. Siege on Cybertron: Magnus Prime Leader
3. There is a potential deluxe Orion Pax coming
4. Then just a diecast Titan Master for Box set 4.

This would give us an Optimus figure at every class in the boxset besides the "special" Clones class.

Again, do I think this is likely what they are doing? No. But, it is interesting that so far both boxsets in TR have had an Optimus, and there is an extremely high likelihood of an Orion Pax coming too.

Clones aren't a special class, they are Legends sized.

I originally passed on Takara Ginrai, so this worked well for me. I preordered Godbomber at the same time. After dropping $188 on the Chaos on Velocitron set when I couldn't find it locally, this seems like a decent deal!

Randomhero wrote:The Magnus Prime isn't technically Optimus. It's actually the transtector Ginrai from super god master force that came to life at the end apparently. According to tfwiki and they only post officia stuff.

We technically don't know that for certain. To clarify, the person who put Magnus Prime on Ginrai's Wiki page did so only because of the toy mold's heritage. I doubt Hasbro really meant for Magnus Prime to be the Japanese ex-Godmaster character, so once we get something concrete on Magnus Prime's identity, it'll be put in its proper placement on the Wiki.

Sabrblade wrote:

Randomhero wrote:The Magnus Prime isn't technically Optimus. It's actually the transtector Ginrai from super god master force that came to life at the end apparently. According to tfwiki and they only post officia stuff.

We technically don't know that for certain. To clarify, the person who put Magnus Prime on Ginrai's Wiki page did so only because of the toy mold's heritage. I doubt Hasbro really meant for Magnus Prime to be the Japanese ex-Godmaster character, so once we get something concrete on Magnus Prime's identity, it'll be put in its proper placement on the Wiki.

Either way it's also whoever you want it to be once their in your hands. That's why I really don't understand why people get so mad when there's a name change due to trademark or it's not what wanted.

It's your toy call it whatever the hell you want.

Randomhero wrote:Either way it's also whoever you want it to be once their in your hands. That's why I really don't understand why people get so mad when there's a name change due to trademark or it's not what wanted.

It's your toy call it whatever the hell you want.

He's the proper POWERMASTER OPTIMUS F***ING PRIME with HI-Q when I get him.

Magnus Prime will be my Ginrai, and hopefully we get Godbomber in a later boxset. It would be cool, considering Hasbro's recent trends towards including several Japanese-exclusive characters, to get Super Ginrai in hand through Hasbro. Also, even though I don't like the feet, I do like the tooling and I'm glad I passed on Powermaster Prime to get this version

Rodimus Knight wrote:Well, I wish I'd know they were going to release this version of Prime here, I probably wouldn't have gotten the Takara one. But I too have preordered it. Would have been nice to see the Alt versions.

We already have pics of the alt modes. You can see them here
https://www.seibertron.com/events/galle ... ent_id=505

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Magnus Prime will be my Ginrai, and hopefully we get Godbomber in a later boxset. It would be cool, considering Hasbro's recent trends towards including several Japanese-exclusive characters, to get Super Ginrai in hand through Hasbro. Also, even though I don't like the feet, I do like the tooling and I'm glad I passed on Powermaster Prime to get this version

I was a pretty big opponent of the feet but after having Ginrai for 6 months now they grow on you. I barely notice them anymore but that might also attribute to giving my TR PM Optimus to a friend after getting him so I don't notice it anymore

Randomhero wrote:Well what do you expect? BBTS carries over a thousand brands. I work in retail and you have no idea how annoying it is when someone asks "when is this happening?" I have no idea.

So...folks at NYTF know more about BBTS than they themselves do? That's interesting. Also I used to work at a retail store also (one of the worst btw that is almost extinct now), granted it was almost 20 years ago, but even on our crappy ancient-as-heck DOS based computer system we could look up products and know when they were coming. If with all the computer/networking technology now, retail stores employees don't know what's coming, and not, that is a huge problem. Of course I experienced that with Wal-Mart back in late December with the TR Legends series 3 being "not in their system".... We've come so far...and yet not at all it seems sometimes.

o.supreme wrote:

Randomhero wrote:Well what do you expect? BBTS carries over a thousand brands. I work in retail and you have no idea how annoying it is when someone asks "when is this happening?" I have no idea.

So...folks at NYTF know more about BBTS than they themselves do? That's interesting. Also I used to work at a retail store also (one of the worst btw that is almost extinct now), granted it was almost 20 years ago, but even on our crappy ancient-as-heck DOS based computer system we could look up products and know when they were coming. If with all the computer/networking technology now, retail stores employees don't know what's coming, and not, that is a huge problem. Of course I experienced that with Wal-Mart back in late December with the TR Legends series 3 being "not in their system".... We've come so far...and yet not at all it seems sometimes.

It was announced by by Hasbro as a bbts exclusive. That's all. Something that was probably until lately a contract level agreement so it wouldn't be in their systems until Hasbro sent them the SKU and pricing. That's how that works. I deal with it all the time. Once a week alone I get someone who asked "when is the next Mtn Dew Game fuel coming out and what's the flavor?" "I don't know" "well how do you not know? You work for Pepsi you should know." It's annoying.

In retail nowadays when something new comes out it's not put in the system until they're sent the info ahead of time. Sometimes it's months but for exclusives it can 4-8 weeks before the actual release. That's how exclusives tend to work

Pre-ordered! If anyone is looking for just the Optimus, I'll be happy to part with him.

Man, two months? Really? Ah well, good its finally coming out