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Why would they? That doesn't make any sense. I'm hoping for a colour photo soon to lay a lot of these theories to rest.

well i hope you're right! och i'm sure they will just stick with the G1 colours
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but that's not to say that it won't get a repaint somewhere down the line

ZeroWolf wrote:I'm a bit confused now, as siebs said that he'll be grey and purple (talking about the hasbro release here) so wouldn't that mean that takara would have to go white and purple (or just stick to releasing the hasbro version)?

I have no clue where this white and purple thing is coming from aside from speculation. So far the only thing being backed up by people "in the know" is that Hasbro's TR Asrotrain will be grey and purple like he was in the G1 cartoon. That's it. We dont know about Takara. What they will propably do is use a similar colour pallete but put more paint apps, like they did with Legends Ultra Magnus.

Judging from the little we know, it seems no one will be doing a white and purple Astrotrain. If anyone has evidence supporting the opposite, please bring it forward.

Thanks will so some of these comments then are giving hasbro a hard time for no good reason?

So wave 1 voyagers are Galvatron & Sentinel Prime (btw what's his titan master called?) While wave two voyagers are rumoured to be alpha trion and astrotrain (this is just my speculation given that we've been hearing a lot about them recently). So I reckon we'll see teases of the 3rd wave at botcon.

william-james88 wrote:I have no clue where this white and purple thing is coming from aside from speculation. So far the only thing being backed up by people "in the know" is that Hasbro's TR Asrotrain will be grey and purple like he was in the G1 cartoon. That's it. We dont know about Takara. What they will propably do is use a similar colour pallete but put more paint apps, like they did with Legends Ultra Magnus.

Judging from the little we know, it seems no one will be doing a white and purple Astrotrain. If anyone has evidence supporting the opposite, please bring it forward.

We can ask the Transmission podcast guys on what their source can say about the color of Hasbro Astrotrain. For me, I'm confident that he will the white/purple deco (G1 toy) like his Classics version.

ZeroWolf wrote:Thanks will so some of these comments then are giving hasbro a hard time for no good reason?

So wave 1 voyagers are Galvatron & Sentinel Prime (btw what's his titan master called?) While wave two voyagers are rumoured to be alpha trion and astrotrain (this is just my speculation given that we've been hearing a lot about them recently). So I reckon we'll see teases of the 3rd wave at botcon.

Sentinel Prime's head is Infinitus

Infinitus? Thanks d-max

So I wonder who else they are going to make a headmaster to pad out the deluxe numbers. I think titans return is going to last as long as combiner wars so they have 6 waves, or 24 spots to fill. If they do all the original headmasters ( excluding the Japanese repaints) that's 15, so that leaves room for potentially 9 more figures.

steals_your_goats wrote:So I wonder who else they are going to make a headmaster to pad out the deluxe numbers. I think titans return is going to last as long as combiner wars so they have 6 waves, or 24 spots to fill. If they do all the original headmasters ( excluding the Japanese repaints) that's 15, so that leaves room for potentially 9 more figures.

We haven't seen Weirdwolf and Highbrow yet.

Generator_G1 wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:So I wonder who else they are going to make a headmaster to pad out the deluxe numbers. I think titans return is going to last as long as combiner wars so they have 6 waves, or 24 spots to fill. If they do all the original headmasters ( excluding the Japanese repaints) that's 15, so that leaves room for potentially 9 more figures.

We haven't seen Weirdwolf and Highbrow yet.

...and Snapdragon and that gorilla Decepticon guy. Can you name all 15?
But does every wave have to include 4 Deluxes?

Generator_G1 wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:So I wonder who else they are going to make a headmaster to pad out the deluxe numbers. I think titans return is going to last as long as combiner wars so they have 6 waves, or 24 spots to fill. If they do all the original headmasters ( excluding the Japanese repaints) that's 15, so that leaves room for potentially 9 more figures.

We haven't seen Weirdwolf and Highbrow yet.

I know, they're included in the 15. I'm talking more along the lines of what they're doing with Blurr and Scourge

I think it's a given that we'll get them, in some form at least. Though due to the nature of the line I can see it having less waves.

Another option is that they could simply get characters from the current MMTE / Transformers comics to repurpose as Headmasters / Titan masters for the line.

I don't follow the comics anymore, so are there any new stand out characters which can be shoe horned in as a - master?

ZeroWolf wrote:I think it's a given that we'll get them, in some form at least. Though due to the nature of the line I can see it having less waves.

I think it's likely that it'll last just as long. They said Trypticon will be the second titan under titans return and the titans are released between the 2nd and 3rd quarters of the year. If the line was shorter then I don't think Trypticon would be classified as titans return and instead he would be whatever the third line is.

Generator_G1 wrote:Another option is that they could simply get characters from the current MMTE / Transformers comics to repurpose as Headmasters / Titan masters for the line.

I don't follow the comics anymore, so are there any new stand out characters which can be shoe horned in as a - master?

The new Fembots. We haven't got a Metalhawk and Nova Prime yet. Some more Primes because the trilogy is called Prime Wars. Thunderclash, Riptide, Ratchet, Drift...
A new Rodimus Prime would also be nice.

Lunatic Prime wrote:

Generator_G1 wrote:Another option is that they could simply get characters from the current MMTE / Transformers comics to repurpose as Headmasters / Titan masters for the line.

I don't follow the comics anymore, so are there any new stand out characters which can be shoe horned in as a - master?

The new Fembots. We haven't got a Metalhawk and Nova Prime yet. Some more Primes because the trilogy is called Prime Wars. Thunderclash, Riptide, Ratchet, Drift...
A new Rodimus Prime would also be nice.

With some retooling I can see a Metalhawk out of a brainstorm

ZeroWolf wrote:Thanks will so some of these comments then are giving hasbro a hard time for no good reason?

Yup, same old same old

steals_your_goats wrote:So I wonder who else they are going to make a headmaster to pad out the deluxe numbers. I think titans return is going to last as long as combiner wars so they have 6 waves, or 24 spots to fill. If they do all the original headmasters ( excluding the Japanese repaints) that's 15, so that leaves room for potentially 9 more figures.

I dont think we will get 6 waves. The whole idea with CW was that every wave after the first two had repaints and retools in them. I see TR lasting 4 waves, maybe 5. Or it could be six but they wouldnt all be headmasters (see below). Also the Japanese repaints would be an excellent way to fill out the waves with repaints as has now sadly become custom. A Minerva from Hasbro would not surprise me.

steals_your_goats wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:I think it's a given that we'll get them, in some form at least. Though due to the nature of the line I can see it having less waves.

I think it's likely that it'll last just as long. They said Trypticon will be the second titan under titans return and the titans are released between the 2nd and 3rd quarters of the year. If the line was shorter then I don't think Trypticon would be classified as titans return and instead he would be whatever the third line is.

But Trypticon proves that the toys within titan masters dont have to be headmasters. They could be different, like powermasters or targetmasters. Look at CW, we had Buzzsaw who is clearly not a combiner figure. The could include figures from the later lines.

william-james88 wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:I think it's a given that we'll get them, in some form at least. Though due to the nature of the line I can see it having less waves.

I think it's likely that it'll last just as long. They said Trypticon will be the second titan under titans return and the titans are released between the 2nd and 3rd quarters of the year. If the line was shorter then I don't think Trypticon would be classified as titans return and instead he would be whatever the third line is.

But Trypticon proves that the toys within titan masters dont have to be headmasters. They could be different, like powermasters or targetmasters. Look at CW, we had Buzzsaw who is clearly not a combiner figure. The could include figures from the later lines.

But why do you think Trypticon is not a Headmaster?

Lunatic Prime wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:I think it's a given that we'll get them, in some form at least. Though due to the nature of the line I can see it having less waves.

I think it's likely that it'll last just as long. They said Trypticon will be the second titan under titans return and the titans are released between the 2nd and 3rd quarters of the year. If the line was shorter then I don't think Trypticon would be classified as titans return and instead he would be whatever the third line is.

But Trypticon proves that the toys within titan masters dont have to be headmasters. They could be different, like powermasters or targetmasters. Look at CW, we had Buzzsaw who is clearly not a combiner figure. The could include figures from the later lines.

But why do you think Trypticon is not a Headmaster?

Because Fort Max is already the poster boy for the Headmaster gimmick.

Generator_G1 wrote:

Lunatic Prime wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:I think it's a given that we'll get them, in some form at least. Though due to the nature of the line I can see it having less waves.

I think it's likely that it'll last just as long. They said Trypticon will be the second titan under titans return and the titans are released between the 2nd and 3rd quarters of the year. If the line was shorter then I don't think Trypticon would be classified as titans return and instead he would be whatever the third line is.

But Trypticon proves that the toys within titan masters dont have to be headmasters. They could be different, like powermasters or targetmasters. Look at CW, we had Buzzsaw who is clearly not a combiner figure. The could include figures from the later lines.

But why do you think Trypticon is not a Headmaster?

Because Fort Max is already the poster boy for the Headmaster gimmick.

Yup AND Hasbro has shown that their Titans "try" to follow their G1 components. Trypticon being a headmaster would be too big a change for the titan class.

Relax though, we will get a decepticon titan class titanmaster figure in a few years after all fort max is going to need his rival...

william-james88 wrote:

Generator_G1 wrote:

Lunatic Prime wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:I think it's a given that we'll get them, in some form at least. Though due to the nature of the line I can see it having less waves.

I think it's likely that it'll last just as long. They said Trypticon will be the second titan under titans return and the titans are released between the 2nd and 3rd quarters of the year. If the line was shorter then I don't think Trypticon would be classified as titans return and instead he would be whatever the third line is.

But Trypticon proves that the toys within titan masters dont have to be headmasters. They could be different, like powermasters or targetmasters. Look at CW, we had Buzzsaw who is clearly not a combiner figure. The could include figures from the later lines.

But why do you think Trypticon is not a Headmaster?

Because Fort Max is already the poster boy for the Headmaster gimmick.

Yup AND Hasbro has shown that their Titans "try" to follow their G1 components. Trypticon being a headmaster would be too big a change for the titan class.

But Fort Max is also Titan class and a Headmaster. I know the original was also one but why would it be a too big change for the class?

ZeroWolf wrote:Relax though, we will get a decepticon titan class titanmaster figure in a few years after all fort max is going to need his rival...

I still think that the rivals will follow the release schedule of the earlier Titans. For example:

Metroplex - Devastator - Fort Max - 1st wave of Titans
Trypticon - Omega Supreme - Scorponok - possible 2nd wave arrangement of Titans.

All they need to do is to either release a newer version of Primus and Unicron or rerelease the older versions in G1 colors and the big city/planet bots are set for newer fans / collectors.

Lunatic Prime wrote:But Fort Max is also Titan class and a Headmaster. I know the original was also one but why would it be a too big change for the class?

Because it would mean that the Titan Class no longer follows G1.

Also, They will release Scorponok eventually and he is a headmaster and it wont be part of Titans Return.

Generator_G1 wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:Relax though, we will get a decepticon titan class titanmaster figure in a few years after all fort max is going to need his rival...

I still think that the rivals will follow the release schedule of the earlier Titans. For example:

Metroplex - Devastator - Fort Max - 1st wave of Titans
Trypticon - Omega Supreme - Scorponok - possible 2nd wave arrangement of Titans.

All they need to do is to either release a newer version of Primus and Unicron or rerelease the older versions in G1 colors and the big city/planet bots are set for newer fans / collectors.

Well this is what I've been saying, sure it won't be till 2019 if predictions are right but it's going to be a lot of fun in the meantime