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steals_your_goats wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Munkky wrote:though I remember hearing in one of the podcast rumours that Megatron is going to be retooled into Blitzwing at some point

Yup, that he's a voyager with a tank barrel on his back and what looks like tailfins on his ankles, would seem to indicate that this is pretty accurate.

Actually that was speculation not an actual rumor that they put out. But honestly a more likely candidate for his retool would be Flywheels. We just got a decent blitzwing not that long ago and we're getting a Flywheels head so if the rumor of heads getting full bodies is true then he will most likely take that spot.

I would prefer Flywheels out of this anyway. And that is more likely considering this whole line is 86 movie forwards so far (well, save like 5)

Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well, I am very happy with Leader Megs, so this Megatron is gonna have to do some impressing, bit I like the looks of Prime, and all the others. I may or may not replace TF07 Getaway though

Oh my crap, these are 90% amazing! I might have to start putting away other lines to make way for Titans Return, because I feel like these are some of the coolest and most fun figures they've put out in years.

I was too young when G1 first started, so I really sort of missed out on the initial series. Powermaster OP was MY Optimus Prime, and seeing all these homages to the later G1 toys speak directly to my personal nostalgia. Awesome.

Wow. Doulblecross and Triggerhappy are definitely the best looking of these new reveals imo. I got to agree Megs has not been going to leg day but he still looks pretty cool to me. I'm super excited for Six Shot. All in all were a really great surprise for my uneventful Wednesday.

Hmmm....liking them all except Laser Prime. Would like to see a more finished proto / actual toy before deciding.

It is kind of funny though, that this mega leak came out a few days after some people were complaining about the leaks.

Hellscream9999 wrote:
No, it's the design specs used for showing how to make them - plastic colors, where to place paint apps, etc., it uses the renders we've seen and these are as near a final product as we're gonna see, so yes, these can be judged. The only one that isn't finalized is the hot rod pic using placeholders.

Pretty darn sure that the decos themselves are not finished if you look at getaway for example he has two different color schemes in bot and alt mode.

The molds themselves are probably finished but I don't think this is 100% what the toys will look like especially since their workplace leaks we are not meant to see.

Never did I ever think we'd get Doublecross again. I dunno about him being a headmaster but you can say that about pretty much 90% of the line, it just is what it is. I do wish he was a voyager instead of a deluxe, though.

Wow! I am super digging this new Voyager Megatron. Hasbro's even done his deco mostly right. He's going to be my new "definitive" Megatron for my Classics/Neo G1 shelf display. Move over, United Voyager Megatron (though you are pretty awesome anyway)! The CW/Legends Leader version is still the best, IMO, but mine is currently serving as my "Masterpiece" Megatron.

My husband to be is gonna LOVE Sixshot coming our way. That's one of his personal childhood favorites!

Is it just me or does the six shot art work look like its some fan made art?

I get if if this is early art work, but the coloring is a much different style than the coloring on any of the other titans return packaging we've seen.

philswitch engage wrote:Is it just me or does the six shot art work look like its some fan made art?

I get if if this is early art work, but the coloring is a much different style than the coloring on any of the other titans return packaging we've seen.

It might just be a mid-line change of style? That's what happened with 2013-onwards; Trailcutter and them had some pretty similar Art styling a, but by the time it got to Arcee it got different.

Mindmaster wrote:

philswitch engage wrote:Is it just me or does the six shot art work look like its some fan made art?

I get if if this is early art work, but the coloring is a much different style than the coloring on any of the other titans return packaging we've seen.

It might just be a mid-line change of style? That's what happened with 2013-onwards; Trailcutter and them had some pretty similar Art styling a, but by the time it got to Arcee it got different.

True, but that was a complete change in artist from when they started off with Clayton Crain doing packaging art over to Phil Jimenez. So far these packaging designs don't look like they are by any specific artist.

Getaway appears to have the Dead End arms........

DecepticonFinishline wrote:Getaway appears to have the Dead End arms........

Because he is a repaint of Chromedome who was based on the Dead End mold loosely but is not the same mold.


TLDR it's not Dead End's mold it's a different mold.

So...

Sentinel Prime => Astrotrain

Megatron => Blitzwing

G2 Optimus => ... Octane?

everything looks awesome here, had to check exactly who getaway was, i recalled the toy but completely forgot the name

By everything looking awesome I meant well everything except the fact they're giving us 3 figures which I'd rather they skipped,namely megatron (the leader class we just got was awesome), hot rod because well the deluxe as one of the best generations moulds and ONYAP (oh no yet another prime). They have had a version of him.. and ok it's been while, but with a combiner wars prime and a titan returns power master prime, you'd think they could better use the resources else where.

Can't wait for triggerhappy - i lusted after him big time but never acquired a g1 target master

six shot will be interesting... maybe he comes with 6 heads...

megatronus wrote:Re: Megatron - I don't mind hollow legs from the back. But from the sides... That's what would kill it for me. Hopefully he seems somewhat better proportioned in person.
Re: Sixshot - my overwhelming preference is for official product, so Hasbro's Sixshot doesn't have to be better than Hexatron, he just has to be good. If he looks anything like the photo, looks good, and is leader class, Hexatron might have to go.

Those are my opinions too. I have 3p toys and I dont mind them but I usually preffer official products simply because its more of an event. There can be a ton of different 3p takes on a character but this is Hasbro and Takara's one shot at this. This is the official Sixshot, lets see what they do (I am also a big Takara fanboy and always like to see how they pull off a certain transformation)

Deadput wrote:Eh Hot Rod was a target master it's fine if he can become a Headmaster at least he is still a master of something.
also about the leaks

It seems like you and I will both be exerting our skills as master debaters then

Kurona wrote: I LOVE EVERYTHING ELSE HERE TOO WHY IS TITANS RETURN DELIVERING SO HARD

I love it too. I guess this is simply Hasbro reminding us that they are one of the most prominent toy makers in the world and that this is what they can do

StarFireMk4 wrote:I like everything but Optimus, and the lack of Hot Rod pics.

Yeah, same here. My favourites are Doublecross and Triggerhappy who seem to have amazing, innovative and fun transformations. And that Megatron, while odd looking, is getting me curious to no end.

Nemesis Maximo wrote:Is it just me, or does that Hot Rod look suspiciously like the deluxe class one we've had since Classics? Coz that ain't cool.

You are dead on, I am pretty certain that is simply the same toy put there as a placeholder, just like the art for all the others on that same image.

Munkky wrote: though I remember hearing in one of the podcast rumours that Megatron is going to be retooled into Blitzwing at some point, so that would be great.

Thats not a rumour, just what someone said might happen when they saw the same photo you are now seeing. We have caught up to all the rumours now (well any that actually have pics of the toys) so many of the other rumours are just people speculating off these same images. Do you think this will become Blitzwing? You now know as much as those who said it.

Agamemnon wrote:Is it just me, or does that Sixshot look like it could be a retool of the Hot Shot mold, which makes weird sense...

Hot Shot or Hot Spot?

Generator_G1 wrote:Hmmm....liking them all except Laser Prime. Would like to see a more finished proto / actual toy before deciding. It is kind of funny though, that this mega leak came out a few days after some people were complaining about the leaks.

And I dont see anyone complaining now The complaints only come later when we realize that nothing new was revealed at SDCC and NYCC. But I dont see it that way. Now we know they are coming (with image proof) but later we will see what the toys actually look like. Its still a reveal, just a different one and it can be as fun and exciting.

Deadput wrote:The molds themselves are probably finished but I don't think this is 100% what the toys will look like especially since their workplace leaks we are not meant to see.

But these are to show the people coordinating the deco how they will look like. We have Wolfwire and Mindwipe there so you can see for yourself how much the deco was changed between those sheets and the final product. Will be about the same amount of changes for doublecross, Megatron, Optimus, Triggerhappy and Getaway.

Think I'll skip Wolfwire. That supposed wolf mode is just far too cartonny. Cybertron Snarl still wins in the best robotic wolf mode category.

Megatron looks decent.

A new deluxe Hot Rod will be most welcome when it appears. And the picture there looks encouraging that they'll still keep his classic design cos I've been worried they'll use that awful trying-too-hard-to-look-cool IDW design.

The rest I'm not bothered about.

Even with some of these spoilers like TR Voyagers Optimus and Megatron as well as a possible new Sixshot, we have only seen the robot modes. I'm interested in how these alt modes will work out. Remember, we'll get two each for Optimus and Megs, and SIX modes in all for Sixshot. That's a lot of anticipation left. Let the speculations begin!

william-james88 wrote:

Deadput wrote:Eh Hot Rod was a target master it's fine if he can become a Headmaster at least he is still a master of something.
also about the leaks

It seems like you and I will both be exerting our skills as master debaters then

I guess it's a battle between masters to determine which one of us is a true Titanmaster of debaters!

william-james88 wrote:

Deadput wrote:The molds themselves are probably finished but I don't think this is 100% what the toys will look like especially since their workplace leaks we are not meant to see.

But these are to show the people coordinating the deco how they will look like. We have Wolfwire and Mindwipe there so you can see for yourself how much the deco was changed between those sheets and the final product. Will be about the same amount of changes for doublecross, Megatron, Optimus, Triggerhappy and Getaway.

Yeah looking over the photos again your probably right I guess I was just assuming they were not final products.


I still don't think Megatron and Optimus look finished especially with no alt mode pics.

Ah, seeing those design specs really take me back. Last time we saw them was... during the Cybertron line, 10 years ago! Both leaked and as unlocked online content.



Can't say it enough: all but Getaway are placeholder images! And ehm... Don't expect them to come out any time soon, they're planned for Spring 2017 according to the code at the top. Maybe for Christmas, maybe...



Sixshot? Taking that with a grain of salt, sorry. Could anyone compare the style with other box arts?



Triggerhappy with Blowpipe look good. Should that be taken as an indicator of them redoing all Targetmasters eventually? If that's the case, hurray for the Decepticons and poor Misfire with Aimless



Doublecross aka Twinferno (pending trademark issues, see the Tiny Titans)? Sweet, my wife loves dragons! I wonder what they'll name the little guy... or maybe use both names if they can get "Doublecross" back? Seen related names used with Blaster and Soundwave.



Optimus Prime as a Voyager, based on G2 in G1 colors, guess he'll be the flagship leader for 2017. Too bad they don't show his altmodes (one is a trailer I bet), but they do show his alternate head. I can haz Star Convoy?



Megatron returns and it's glorious. Looks a bit bulky. And those of you thinking he Triple Changes, all Voyagers so far are like that (that's why I put altmodes for Prime). Blitzwing and Flywheels are equally likely... if not for Skytread who resembles the latter.



Getaway aka Breakaway (see Movie 2007) with Rev. Comparing him with Chromedome... the body is a straight redeco but the Titan Master is new or retooled from Stylor. Do I need to make a new list for TR Head retools?

No seriously, the more I think about it, the more I'm convinced each Titan Master has an alternate face. Infinitus vs. Darkmoon, "Hi-Q" and Stylor vs. Rev... CW all over again

frogbat wrote:ONYAP (oh no yet another prime). They have had a version of him.. and ok it's been while, but with a combiner wars prime and a titan returns power master prime, you'd think they could better use the resources else where.

I think a fitting name for the new one will be Shelfwarmer Prime

In a line marketed mainly towards kids, the lower-priced Optimus will be the one that shelfwarms?

Hmmmm. Interesting hypothesis.

First off, Doublecross and Triggerhappy look good. I like THs potential for hand blasters and I love me some Monsterbots.

That said, WELP, THERE GO ALL THE SURPRISES FOR THE NEXT FEW CONS!!!

Seriously, how has someone not been fired for leaking these? Not just blurry or production sample photos, but honest to goodness palette templates?

No more Targetmasters or Powermasters? And no more deluxe individual Technobots Hasbro?