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I'm sure others have said it but the Walgreens release is striking me as having a very toy inspired deco. I do prefer the SDCC lighter colors. Luckily I already have the voyager and don't need to have all the Headmasters in the same scale.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Bumblebee21 wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:I still just see Blurr vosplaying as Brainstorm. Generations version for the win.

But you need brainstorm to complete the original 6

Did you count Fortress Maximus as two?

No Cerebros and Arcee

I know I probably should have expected this, but the Titans Return Brainstorm makes the Generations one look like a powered-up version!

DUDE. Size DOES matter!

Oh well I guess there'll be those who will be happy with baby-sized ones....

Bumblebee21 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Bumblebee21 wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:I still just see Blurr vosplaying as Brainstorm. Generations version for the win.

But you need brainstorm to complete the original 6

Did you count Fortress Maximus as two?

No Cerebros and Arcee

I don't really count Arcee as she's fiction-only and a toy of her was never made in G1. As for a possible TR release, expect a redeco of Chromedome like the original G1 proposal:



I really don't see them retooling Gen. Arcee.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Bumblebee21 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Bumblebee21 wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:I still just see Blurr vosplaying as Brainstorm. Generations version for the win.

But you need brainstorm to complete the original 6

Did you count Fortress Maximus as two?

No Cerebros and Arcee

I don't really count Arcee as she's fiction-only and a toy of her was never made in G1. As for a possible TR release, expect a redeco of Chromedome like the original G1 proposal:



I really don't see them retooling Gen. Arcee.

Yeah but she was made with the other 4
I think they might do the blurr mold. I don't know

The Walgreens one has unpainted altmode guns, whereas the SDCC one has them painted gray/silver.

Its a fun toy, I prefer the main colour of the Walgreens version, neither it nor the SDCC version are as good as the Voyager thought.

The Walgreens has nice blue eyes and a vibrant orange face plate with better tampos.

Really? I mean, the Voyager definitely looks better... But I found the Voyager Brainstorm to be an incredibly boring figure to play with. Whereas I am enjoying the hell out of Titans Return Blurr.

Sabrblade wrote:The Walgreens one has unpainted altmode guns, whereas the SDCC one has them painted gray/silver.

So what!? The G1 toy didn't have those painted as well!

I definitely like the vibrant colours of the algreens version more. Where can I get one in the UK? I prefer the deluxe figure far more than the voyager too. I had the Voyager but there were so many things I didn't like about the design and overall shape of parts (the pointy feet bugged me for example) and they're all much better on the more G1-ish Deluxe here.

Carnivius_Prime wrote:I definitely like the vibrant colours of the algreens version more. Where can I get one in the UK? I prefer the deluxe figure far more than the voyager too. I had the Voyager but there were so many things I didn't like about the design and overall shape of parts (the pointy feet bugged me for example) and they're all much better on the more G1-ish Deluxe here.

I'd keep an eye on stores like ASDA and Tesco, as such exclusives tend to become regular releases in Europe. However, don't look for just the name "Brainstorm": the UK import for the SDCC set required a name change for him, he was renamed "Charon". Don't ask.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
I'd keep an eye on stores like ASDA and Tesco, as such exclusives tend to become regular releases in Europe. However, don't look for just the name "Brainstorm": the UK import for the SDCC set required a name change for him, he was renamed "Charon". Don't ask.

Hm, it's been a loooong time since I've seen proper Transformers in a Tesco or Asda near me. They usually just have RiD and real basic stuff. Never seen Generations in there and the only AoE stuff was the real simple stuff like the sparky dinos, one step changers such things.

Charon is a bit of a random name. If Brainstorm, Brainwave, Brainiac and such aren't allowed...what about.. Mr Clever? I dunno.

DigitalBrave3 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:The Walgreens one has unpainted altmode guns, whereas the SDCC one has them painted gray/silver.

So what!? The G1 toy didn't have those painted as well!

... I mean... yeah, but... it doesn't really matter if the G1 toy had them unpainted, it's still kind of crap.

If the british public school system is anything to go by, they'd likely change his name to either

MindMap

or

Spider-Diagram

I remember when I was in primary school people were talking about how we weren't supposed to call it 'brainstorming' anymore, as it turns out:

"The term originally referred to a state of temporary insanity, gaining prominence when it was used in the defense of Harry Kendall Thaw against charges that he murdered prominent architect Stanford White (1907-8)."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainstorm

...it was something to do with a mental illness, and was culturally insensitive.

Hasbro would likely drop the name here, not because of political pressure, or the ministry of truth, or "political correctness gone mad", but to protect themselves from the same kind of media backlash and bad PR that they opened themselves upto by naming a trasformer "Spastic"(See:http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Over-Run_(PCC)). Which for our american friends is considered a derogatory term in the UK for people with mental disabilities, most notably people with cerebral palsy.

'Brainstorm' is offensive now? But we even use that in our drama group and the schools too!

I can't keep up with what is politically correct and what ain't...

I remember hearing about it a few years ago too. No-one really talks about it anymore; it just happened and that was that. It's so weird when something that big quickly falls into public obscurity. Hell, Roberts probably wasn't thinking about it when he chose Brainstorm for MTMTE...

simple. nothing is politically correct.

"Brainstorm generally refers to brainstorming, a group or individual creativity exercise.

The term originally referred to a state of temporary insanity, gaining prominence when it was used in the defense of Harry Kendall Thaw against charges that he murdered prominent architect Stanford White (1907-8)."

While the term may have originated with something less than ideal, it's meaning no longer has any real world relation to that instance.

Carnivius_Prime wrote:'Brainstorm' is offensive now? But we even use that in our drama group and the schools too!

I can't keep up with what is politically correct and what ain't...

I said this was back when I was in primary school. That's the mid 90's. If it ever *was* offensive, which I can't seem to find any record of online, it wasn't a recent thing. Odds are it's dropped back into the "overton window" of being a widely accepted term, and it was a whole lot of hoo-haa.

I don't see the problem with the name myself. And I'm as lefty as they come. I'm even married to someone who has grand-mal epilepsy, who are the people who it's supposed to offend, according to the daily mail (about 8 years ago), and even she calls it brainstorming.

I reiterate: It's not because of the thought police looking to curb people's free speech, it's because Hasbro will want to protect their neck after their previously bad experiences with names like Spastic and Slag.

It's not at thing that people are mad about.

EDIT: I referred to the daily mail up there, here's the article I was alluding to: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1027985/Council-bans-brainstorming-replaces-term-thought-showers--fear-offending-epileptics.html Cliffnotes: One city council banned use of the term because, even against advice, they thought it *might* be offensive. People actually felt patronised that they were considered to be so hair-trigger over a largely outdated term. They issued an apology and changed it back. Daily mail framed it as the usual 'poltical correctness gone mad' stuff they're famous for

Yep. I love the Walgreens one so much. Which is great for me, because it's the only one I'll likely be able to get. (still going to call that headmaster Arcana, though)

Kurona wrote:

DigitalBrave3 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:The Walgreens one has unpainted altmode guns, whereas the SDCC one has them painted gray/silver.

So what!? The G1 toy didn't have those painted as well!

... I mean... yeah, but... it doesn't really matter if the G1 toy had them unpainted, it's still kind of crap.

Also, if I'm remembering this right, them not being painted is also Cartoon accurate.

DigitalBrave3 wrote:

Kurona wrote:

DigitalBrave3 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:The Walgreens one has unpainted altmode guns, whereas the SDCC one has them painted gray/silver.

So what!? The G1 toy didn't have those painted as well!

... I mean... yeah, but... it doesn't really matter if the G1 toy had them unpainted, it's still kind of crap.

Also, if I'm remembering this right, them not being painted is also Cartoon accurate.

Yeah but it still looks crap

Kurona wrote:

DigitalBrave3 wrote:

Kurona wrote:

DigitalBrave3 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:The Walgreens one has unpainted altmode guns, whereas the SDCC one has them painted gray/silver.

So what!? The G1 toy didn't have those painted as well!

... I mean... yeah, but... it doesn't really matter if the G1 toy had them unpainted, it's still kind of crap.

Also, if I'm remembering this right, them not being painted is also Cartoon accurate.

Yeah but it still looks crap

Ya'll are all missing the original point I was making: It's another observed difference between the two versions that no one at the time had yet pointed out.

Here's something, this was posted on the Titans Return thread on The Allspark website, now.....isn't that Unicron in the middle there & does this mean that we could see a TR Unicron toy(i know we're getting a platinum edition one) or even a Primus one

http://67.media.tumblr.com/5aeeac1ecd02 ... 1_1280.jpg

Stuartmaximus wrote:Here's something, this was posted on the Titans Return thread on The Allspark website, now.....isn't that Unicron in the middle there & does this mean that we could see a TR Unicron toy(i know we're getting a platinum edition one) or even a Primus one

http://67.media.tumblr.com/5aeeac1ecd02 ... 1_1280.jpg

No.

If your looking for him in the UK Orbital Comics in London have it as do Kapow Toys.

For the SDCC version go to A1 Toys. They have him as well as SDCC fortress Maximus at very good prices.