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AcademyofDrX wrote:TF-fan kev777 wrote:I never said the G1 designs weren't ridiculously dated, no disagreement there. But they are a hell of a lot more marketable to kids than the MTMTE cybertronian designs. Kids can look at Earthrise Grapple and know that it is an older style crane. Kids will look at MTMTE Jazz and ask, what the heck is that, a shoe? (Real feedback from a real kid on that comment.)
Generations figures are designed and marketed for adults primarily. If you look at Hasbro investor-facing material, adult purchases for adults are an important constituency. Just as they have media properties for different demographics, they maintain separate product lines.
ZeroWolf wrote:AcademyofDrX wrote:TF-fan kev777 wrote:I never said the G1 designs weren't ridiculously dated, no disagreement there. But they are a hell of a lot more marketable to kids than the MTMTE cybertronian designs. Kids can look at Earthrise Grapple and know that it is an older style crane. Kids will look at MTMTE Jazz and ask, what the heck is that, a shoe? (Real feedback from a real kid on that comment.)
Generations figures are designed and marketed for adults primarily. If you look at Hasbro investor-facing material, adult purchases for adults are an important constituency. Just as they have media properties for different demographics, they maintain separate product lines.
I think they still take kids into consideration with generations as they've said collectors are only 30% (which is bigger then I thought) so there's still the parents who'll be potentially buying these for their kids.
Also with the recent reveal of Cyberverse Deluxes, I'd argue they are making more of an effort to pull collectors in with that line as well now(just waiting for them to do generations styled rescue bots)
AcademyofDrX wrote:TF-fan kev777 wrote:I never said the G1 designs weren't ridiculously dated, no disagreement there. But they are a hell of a lot more marketable to kids than the MTMTE cybertronian designs. Kids can look at Earthrise Grapple and know that it is an older style crane. Kids will look at MTMTE Jazz and ask, what the heck is that, a shoe? (Real feedback from a real kid on that comment.)
Generations figures are designed and marketed for adults primarily. If you look at Hasbro investor-facing material, adult purchases for adults are an important constituency. Just as they have media properties for different demographics, they maintain separate product lines.
william-james88 wrote:AcademyofDrX wrote:TF-fan kev777 wrote:I never said the G1 designs weren't ridiculously dated, no disagreement there. But they are a hell of a lot more marketable to kids than the MTMTE cybertronian designs. Kids can look at Earthrise Grapple and know that it is an older style crane. Kids will look at MTMTE Jazz and ask, what the heck is that, a shoe? (Real feedback from a real kid on that comment.)
Generations figures are designed and marketed for adults primarily. If you look at Hasbro investor-facing material, adult purchases for adults are an important constituency. Just as they have media properties for different demographics, they maintain separate product lines.
This is false. Hasbro said to their investors that fans aged 10 and up consist of 30%. They never gave numbers regarding people 18+. John Warden said the audience for the generations line is still predominantly kids. A leader optimus is mandated by the higher ups along with the idea of having differently coloured bots in a wave. These are decisions made in kid oriented lines.
In that case, just reissue the already-Cybertronian-altmoded Siege Megatron in Earthrise.Sentinel_Primal wrote:I've alwayd liked the idea of Megatron refusing an Earth mode because he feels he's above it
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:In that case, just reissue the already-Cybertronian-altmoded Siege Megatron in Earthrise.Sentinel_Primal wrote:I've alwayd liked the idea of Megatron refusing an Earth mode because he feels he's above it
leokearon wrote:If they do the other basic original Micromaster bases, who should they do next>
Hothouse's Fire Station
Greasepit's Petrol Station
Airwave's Airport
Personally I would like to see Greasepit's Petrol Station
Skritz wrote:Sabrblade wrote:In that case, just reissue the already-Cybertronian-altmoded Siege Megatron in Earthrise.Sentinel_Primal wrote:I've alwayd liked the idea of Megatron refusing an Earth mode because he feels he's above it
Hey maybe they'll throw a curveball and Earthrise Megatron will be based off this:
Or maybe this?
Sentinel_Primal wrote:So, thinking about potential Megatron designs for this line, and what if they don't give him an Earth mode and instead give him something like a mix between Animated's Cybertronian mode Megs and Prime's design for Megs? I've always liked the idea of Megatron refusing an Earth mode because he feels he's above it
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Still no Motormaster though? You would have thought a retool of SIEGE Magnus, Galaxy Prime or Earthrise would have been a no brainer. A reimagining too. Leader Class Decepticon Motormaster - unaffiliated with the Stunticons.
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Which is part of the problem. Some people are too fixated on OLD ideas. The Constructicons in Animated are a great example of reinvention. Did they have a significant presence in the show? Yes. Were they Devastator? NO. Swindle was another.
It also indicates some people don't see any value in the individuals of a Combiner Team, they only want the Gestalt. Which is such a wasteful, limited perspective. No wonder Transformers is stuck in a rut of recycling the same 15+ 80's characters.
They were going to be, though.AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Which is part of the problem. Some people are too fixated on OLD ideas. The Constructicons in Animated are a great example of reinvention. Did they have a significant presence in the show? Yes. Were they Devastator? NO.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:They were going to be, though.AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Which is part of the problem. Some people are too fixated on OLD ideas. The Constructicons in Animated are a great example of reinvention. Did they have a significant presence in the show? Yes. Were they Devastator? NO.
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Which is part of the problem. Some people are too fixated on OLD ideas. The Constructicons in Animated are a great example of reinvention. Did they have a significant presence in the show? Yes. Were they Devastator? NO. Swindle was another.
It also indicates some people don't see any value in the individuals of a Combiner Team, they only want the Gestalt. Which is such a wasteful, limited perspective. No wonder Transformers is stuck in a rut of recycling the same 15+ 80's characters.
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:they could ditch the tired recycled designs and give Megatron something previously unmade/unused in fiction...
Skritz wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:they could ditch the tired recycled designs and give Megatron something previously unmade/unused in fiction...
Not in this line, buddy. Or any future line with this current design team.
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