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News Credits: 18 · by **Immortal Starscream** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 8:35 am

the walmart hasbro collector con page is live. no pics, or names yet, though item descriptions show transformers and gi-joes.

https://www.walmart.com/browse/collector-con-hasbro-presale/0/0/?_refineresult=true&_be_shelf_id=4629791&search_sort=100&facet=shelf_id:4629791

...and after refreshing a couple of times, most everything has switched to sold out status

59.99 item says in the specifications it't transformers.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Action-Figure/318026541

News Credits: 6 · by **Dr. Caelus** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 8:44 am

Immortal Starscream wrote:the walmart hasbro collector con page is live. no pics, or names yet, though item descriptions show transformers and gi-joes.

https://www.walmart.com/browse/collector-con-hasbro-presale/0/0/?_refineresult=true&_be_shelf_id=4629791&search_sort=100&facet=shelf_id:4629791

...and after refreshing a couple of times, most everything has switched to sold out status

59.99 item says in the specifications it't transformers.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Action-Figure/318026541

Yeah, there's one at $60, two at $40, and five at $20, so it definitely looks like second wave of Netflix exclusives.

Guessing:

$60 - Shockwave with lab stuff.
$40 - Optimus Prime recolor and new character (maybe Deadlock from Springer) plus Battlemasters.
$20 - Elita-1, Armada Wheeljack, Ironhide recolor, ...?

What would be hilarious is if $60 fig was a retool of Astrotrain as Armada Jetfire, but that seems really unlikely.

News Credits: 19 · by **blackeyedprime** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 8:54 am

Hoping the netflix leader box is double dealer with his lil dudes

News Credits: 61 · by **EvasionModeBumblebee** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 9:03 am

I think they used some of the wrong pictures for the event, because they showed an unaltered ER Prime for the Netflix Siege figure.

Also, Bumblebee and Soundwave are a part of the netflix line? Why wouldn't they go in ER? Seems kinda weird if they don't have weathering but whatever.

It is cool that Bumblebee is a VW, I was just hoping he didn't partsform like Cliffjumper does. Maybe the updated molding will let him transform without removing it?

News Credits: 19 · by **blackeyedprime** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 9:31 am

kind of weird having non battledamage/non premium paint applications in the netflix line that boasts it, what will the regular earthrise releases look like for them (if there is any).

News Credits: 459 · by **Sabrblade** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 9:39 am

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:I'm praying that the Prowl-Ironhide stuff is digibashes. Especially Ironhide. "SIEGE retool with the Earth mode roof as a shield" is highly disappointing if true.

How else were they going to recreate the original toy's hoverboard w/ gun turret?

by **ZeldaTheSwordsman** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 9:54 am

Well, now we know why Arcee has that junky unintegrated transformation: So that they could easily swap the robot body to give us an attempt at car-mode Elita One. Which ends up being rather pathetic because of said unintegrated transformation, having Arcee's car mode instead of her own, and being too short relative to Optimus.

News Credits: 1 · by **Gauntlet101010** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 10:12 am

I don't think I'll get Elita. I already have the Primes version for my official version and I like MMC's as my main.

I wish they'd just lead with Netflix. I always found some fault with the main ER Prime and if Netflix is just going to come out with a better one Hasbro is going to lose a lot of my trust.

News Credits: 101 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 10:13 am

blackeyedprime wrote:Hoping the netflix leader box is double dealer with his lil dudes

Honestly, it would be awesome but I don't think it will happen. Battle Masters are cheaper individually than Micromasters. Plus that Select box exist.

In all logic, it may be a special "battle damage" version of Optimus Prime with one or two Battle Masters included.

by **shocksound96** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 10:22 am

I hope earthrise Ironhide gets a separate release. Don't want to waste my money on a two pack if i'm only getting it for one figure.

News Credits: 19 · by **blackeyedprime** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 10:22 am

-Kanrabat- wrote:
blackeyedprime wrote:Hoping the netflix leader box is double dealer with his lil dudes

Honestly, it would be awesome but I don't think it will happen. Battle Masters are cheaper individually than Micromasters. Plus that Select box exist.

In all logic, it may be a special "battle damage" version of Optimus Prime with one or two Battle Masters included.

yeagh thats true, maybe a nemesis galaxy optimus prime as it feels like it is the one figure that doesnt have an exclusive or repaint yet.

Website · by **DMSL** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 10:23 am

Lazy Ironhide transformation the roof becomes a shield, hope it is not like Cliffjumper.

News Credits: 6 · by **AllNewSuperRobot** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 10:23 am

RIP Thrust...

News Credits: 459 · by **Sabrblade** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 10:24 am

DMSL wrote:Lazy Ironhide transformation the roof becomes a shield, hope it is not like Cliffjumper.

How else were they going to recreate the original toy's hoverboard w/ gun turret?

News Credits: 6 · by **AllNewSuperRobot** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 10:26 am

I'm noticing the theme of Earthrise. Arcee, Ironhide, BB.. All with "shields". Seems like Takara are getting lazy with Transformations again...

News Credits: 4854 · by **william-james88** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 10:29 am

Wrote an article about the Walmart preorders since they are not necessaruly Earthrise https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... art/45018/

And by the way, this is now getting super confusing since it seems the Walmart exclusive Netflix stuff might not just be redecos anymore but actual remolds and even new alt modes, like the volkswagon beetle and a tape deck for soundwave. Don't know if these are earthrise toys we have yet to see or not.

Also, I hate that I have to rebuy so many figures I already have. Soundwave, Ironhide, prowl AAARGHHH

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 10:29 am

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:RIP Thrust...

He's getting a solo release at retail, already seen a price tag for him

News Credits: 6 · by **AllNewSuperRobot** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 10:39 am

ZeroWolf wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:RIP Thrust...

He's getting a solo release at retail, already seen a price tag for him

Oh I see. I thought for a minute he might get his own two-pack release with Windblade.

by **ZeldaTheSwordsman** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 10:42 am

DMSL wrote:Lazy Ironhide transformation the roof becomes a shield, hope it is not like Cliffjumper.

It's because he's a re-shell of SIEGE Ironhide. Given that mold's core transformation scheme, a roof shield was the easiest way to give it a Onebox roof.

But I wish they'd given us an Ironhide with the proper battle platform.. :BANG_HEAD:

News Credits: 22 · by **Rodimus Prime** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 10:46 am

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
DMSL wrote:Lazy Ironhide transformation the roof becomes a shield, hope it is not like Cliffjumper.
It's because he's a re-shell of SIEGE Ironhide. Given that mold's core transformation scheme, a roof shield was the easiest way to give it a Onebox roof.

But I wish they'd given us an Ironhide with the proper battle platform..

Why? I always hated that about the G1 toy. It was useless.

News Credits: 41 · by **Cobotron** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 10:47 am

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:But I wish they'd given us an Ironhide with the proper battle platform..

I agree this would have been great! Maybe there are some 5mm ports on the underside so we can fan-jam some kind of approximation of one. Maybe use Siege Ratchet's accessories?

Rodimus Prime wrote:Why? I always hated that about the G1 toy. It was useless.

Well for me, I like anything that harkens back to Diaclone.

News Credits: 22 · by **Rodimus Prime** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 10:49 am

william-james88 wrote:Also, I hate that I have to rebuy so many figures I already have. Soundwave, Ironhide, prowl AAARGHHH

Yeah, that irks me as well. I wish they would have given their slots to figures who haven't seen a proper release in a while, if ever. Like some Firecons and Sparkabots. But they probably wouldn't have sold as well.

News Credits: 12 · by **Evil Eye** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 10:58 am

Rodimus Prime wrote:
william-james88 wrote:Also, I hate that I have to rebuy so many figures I already have. Soundwave, Ironhide, prowl AAARGHHH
Yeah, that irks me as well. I wish they would have given their slots to figures who haven't seen a proper release in a while, if ever. Like some Firecons and Sparkabots. But they probably wouldn't have sold as well.

New Firecons would be excellent, especially as they could all use the same base mold with different alt mode parts. Alas, it seems we'll be stuck with Cindersaur from Slash for now. A shame- I like Slash but Cindersaur is supposed to be a lumpy lizard thing! Slash's athletic, predatory form is FAR too dignified for a 'bot whose brain module long since melted to slag and poured out his ear!

by **ZeldaTheSwordsman** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:01 am

Rodimus Prime wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
DMSL wrote:Lazy Ironhide transformation the roof becomes a shield, hope it is not like Cliffjumper.
It's because he's a re-shell of SIEGE Ironhide. Given that mold's core transformation scheme, a roof shield was the easiest way to give it a Onebox roof.

But I wish they'd given us an Ironhide with the proper battle platform..
Why? I always hated that about the G1 toy. It was useless.

Well, I personally find it a very fun feature. Both as a battle sled and as a medical slab/workstation for Ratchet. In modern toy context, it would go great with Titan Masters and Prime Masters.
And Ratchet and Ironhide are inaccurate without it. Their robot mode character models are based directly on the robot separated from the platform that forms most of the van volume.

In Ironhide's case, an Earth mode by itself is not enough to get me to bite. I needed that extra play value and bit of design accuracy... Combine that with Prowl not having a different chest from Smokescreen (as far as I could tell) and that pack is a hard pass.

Rodimus Prime wrote:
william-james88 wrote:Also, I hate that I have to rebuy so many figures I already have. Soundwave, Ironhide, prowl AAARGHHH
Yeah, that irks me as well. I wish they would have given their slots to figures who haven't seen a proper release in a while, if ever. Like some Firecons and Sparkabots. But they probably wouldn't have sold as well.

In fairness, Prowl and Whyronhide are an exclusive two-pack, so they're not stealing main slots.

Cobotron wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:But I wish they'd given us an Ironhide with the proper battle platform..
I agree this would have been great! Maybe there are some 5mm ports on the underside so we can fan-jam some kind of approximation of one. Maybe use Siege Ratchet's accessories

Maybe.. But it would be a half-hearted approximation.

News Credits: 459 · by **Sabrblade** » Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:03 am

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
DMSL wrote:Lazy Ironhide transformation the roof becomes a shield, hope it is not like Cliffjumper.
It's because he's a re-shell of SIEGE Ironhide. Given that mold's core transformation scheme, a roof shield was the easiest way to give it a Onebox roof.

But I wish they'd given us an Ironhide with the proper battle platform..
Why? I always hated that about the G1 toy. It was useless.
Well, I personally find it a very fun feature. Both as a battle sled and as a medical slab/workstation for Ratchet. In modern toy context, it would go great with Titan Masters and Prime Masters.
And Ratchet and Ironhide are inaccurate without it. Their robot mode character models are based directly on the robot separated from the platform that forms most of the van volume.

In Ironhide's case, an Earth mode by itself is not enough to get me to bite. I needed that extra play value and bit of design accuracy... Combine that with Prowl not having a different chest from Smokescreen (as far as I could tell) and that pack is a hard pass.

Sounds like you didn't pay attention to this morning's livestream.