Deadput wrote:I agree that more female transformers in lines would be wonderful, but please let's start giving them their old molds and treat them like we do with male Transformers, revamping their designs to be anything other then "human female but metal with a kibble backpack/stocking" would also be preferred.
Leonardo wrote:Take your lips off my pipe!
THANK YOU.ZeroWolf wrote:Scorpy will already be scaled to Fortress Maximus. Why rescale him?
No, the laziest Arcee design you've ever seen is her animation model, where the kibble magically poofs awaymorganprime wrote:Well that's the laziest Arcee design I have ever seen.
Wolfman Jake wrote:Sky Lynx, Scropinok, and Fasttrack all look great! Arcee is not really any better than the T30/Legends version from five years ago. In fact, the Legends version is probably still the best version, what with it's cartoon perfect paint applications and the fact that it doesn't parts form and all pieces are integrated into both modes. I may actually pass on Earthrise Arcee. It's a shame, because the head sculpt is gorgeous and the robot mode looks very good, but the paint apps are a step back from the Legends version, and that "hoverboard" represents worse partsforming than Earthrise Cliffjumper.
Eh, I don't think the legs lose that much without them. And they're still present in some form, albeit somewhat flatter. They even detach and migrate for base mode!blackeyedprime wrote:Scorponok... I kind of expect titan classes to need hasbro employee.. Erm.. Third party upgrades, but even with upgrades it will have some awful flaws still.
Robot mode: really needs the chrome bits to beef his legs up
1. That is a shame, but he has at least one set of them so it could be worse. 2. Who says that the double guns he has can't be detached and held in his hands like Fort Max's leg guns? 3. It's the price of having ankle tilts in something that big and blocky, especially with the base mode ramps being built into the legs.blackeyedprime wrote:No double guns on his rear shoulders. No gun. The ankle hollows... Egads.
1. They look like they might have some articulation. The angle doesn't help with telling whether they're separate. Mind you, even on the original toy they're smushed pretty damn close together. I should know, I own one (minus Zarak and most of the accessories, but I do have the shield, the rifle, and the helmet) 2. Disappointing, but it's not an enormous heartbreak. 3. The mandibles look WAY better than the original toy's.blackeyedprime wrote:Scopion: laziest scorpion feet ever? Doesn't look like the feet separate or have articulation let alone the old movement gimmick. Lack of double guns to go rear. Mandibles look bad.
He has the shield tower, which is more important to the look of the base mode than the dishes, elevator platform, and repair arms. They'd be nice to have, but they're not as critical. I also don't have much hope that a 3rd party would do them any time soon; Titans Return Trypticon came out two years ago and there's still no sign of anyone making his minor peripherals, so...blackeyedprime wrote:Base mode: lack of orange parts/lifts/missile flaps and plug in dishes etc.
-Kanrabat- wrote:Deadput wrote:I agree that more female transformers in lines would be wonderful, but please let's start giving them their old molds and treat them like we do with male Transformers, revamping their designs to be anything other then "human female but metal with a kibble backpack/stocking" would also be preferred.
I LOVE sexy fembots.
However, in order to be "sexy", most fembots have no choice but to be a god damn SHELLFORMER. I'm pretty sure a fembot could achieve feminine curves and shape (even blocky ones) with a proper clever transformation.
On top of my head, the only one that achieve such a feat so far are Blackarachnia Beast Machine, Animated, and the MP. All the others are complete shellformers or partial shellformers. The non-feminine fembots like Miss "Lugnut", Strika, or Ripclaw dosent count because they don't have the "hot girl" look.
Ultimate challenge: Make that feminine looking transformable transformer, who is not a shellformer in any shape or form, a standard deluxe or voyager release. Come on, designers, you can do it!
Keep in mind the mold's curviness was to make it look sleek and aerodynamic to fit the character's role as a champion racer.ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:The problem Moonracer et al had was that Floro Dery gave them curvy robot modes and angular vehicle modes. If you have a curvy car mode as well as a curvy robot mode, it's a lot easier. That's why T30 Arcee was able to happen. Earthrise Arcee, the problem isn't the curves but rather the waist swivel. They sacrificed integration so that her pelvis would be untethered.
Here's a good example of a curvy carbot girl who's not a shellformer - Cybertron Override:
This despite the toy having been designed as a male character. It's kinda obvious why they picked this design to turn into a lady in the dub.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sentinel_Primal wrote:So, what are the chances that Scorponok gets remolded/repainted into Black Zarak for Generation Selects and includes a repainted Fasttrack as the spear?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
I think there's a decent chance of Black Zarak happening. I mean, they did do Grand Maximus, so it's not that much of a stretch to think they'd try doing Black Zarak even if it had to be by the same route. Masterforce was a pretty big deal and there's still a lot of nostalgia for it in Japan. Legends Godbomber existing is proof of that, let alone Grand Max getting done.william-james88 wrote:Sentinel_Primal wrote:So, what are the chances that Scorponok gets remolded/repainted into Black Zarak for Generation Selects and includes a repainted Fasttrack as the spear?
The same chances of getting Metrotitan from Metroplex, G2 Devastator from Devastator, Guardian robot from Omega Supreme...
The thing is, not only did the straight redeco Grand Max need to be crowdfunded (and fail to reach the quota for its only new accessory of a Pretender shell), but the figure is still pretty readily available online in unsold quantities that some like BBTS have had to clearance out in order to get rid of it. That's never a good sign from a business perspective. As such, Takara may be a little more wary about a Black Zarak, especially since it would also require retooled parts instead of being a mere redeco like Grand Max was.ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:I think there's a decent chance of Black Zarak happening. I mean, they did do Grand Maximus, so it's not that much of a stretch to think they'd try doing Black Zarak even if it had to be by the same route. Masterforce was a pretty big deal and there's still a lot of nostalgia for it in Japan. Legends Godbomber existing is proof of that, let alone Grand Max getting done.william-james88 wrote:Sentinel_Primal wrote:So, what are the chances that Scorponok gets remolded/repainted into Black Zarak for Generation Selects and includes a repainted Fasttrack as the spear?
The same chances of getting Metrotitan from Metroplex, G2 Devastator from Devastator, Guardian robot from Omega Supreme...
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:I'm pretty sure people are wrong about this Arcee being a strict partsformer.
Nope, and there's a funny story about that.Rodimus Prime wrote:Didn't Grand Maximus get an Encore figure after Fort Max did?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:The problem Moonracer et al had was that Floro Dery gave them curvy robot modes and angular vehicle modes. If you have a curvy car mode as well as a curvy robot mode, it's a lot easier. That's why T30 Arcee was able to happen. Earthrise Arcee, the problem isn't the curves but rather the waist swivel. They sacrificed integration so that her pelvis would be untethered.
Here's a good example of a curvy carbot girl who's not a shellformer - Cybertron Override:
This despite the toy having been designed as a male character. It's kinda obvious why they picked this design to turn into a lady in the dub.
Wolfman Jake wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:I'm pretty sure people are wrong about this Arcee being a strict partsformer.
I hope you are right, because the robot mode looks great, especially the face sculpt, and I could forgive the lack of perfect paint app fidelity to the G1 cartoon model, but if the back half of the car can also sit on her back a la Earthrise Cliffjumper, that's just going to give Arcee a HUGE backpack, even bigger than the T30/Legends mold already has. We'll have to just wait and see what news and pictures come from the show floor in the coming days.
So do you think that Takara's reluctance to reissue Grand Max back then is still present, despite the potential demand for a properly sized Black Zarak? Besides a new head and deco, how else is Black Zarak different from Scorponok?Sabrblade wrote:Nope, and there's a funny story about that.Rodimus Prime wrote:Didn't Grand Maximus get an Encore figure after Fort Max did?
Back when Takara pulled out the G1 Fortress Maximus mold for its Encore release, they found the Grand Maximus Pretender shell along with the main toy mold, and eHOBBY wanted Fun Pub to do a full blown reissue of Grand Maximus. But, that kind of a toy release wouldn't have been realistically marketable for Fun Pub (even if it might have ended up being cheaper than what the original G1 release went for at the time on the secondary market), but they did, at least, end up using the Pretender shell in the Figure Subscription Service for Double Pretender Megatron.
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