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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby cruizerdave » Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:52 pm

To be honest, it's a little underwhelming.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby cruizerdave » Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:53 pm

I thought that since they merged a year or two back, there wasn't going to be any deviations between Takara and Hasbro's TFs?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Jeddostotle7 » Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:55 pm

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cruizerdave wrote:I thought that since they merged a year or two back, there wasn't going to be any deviations between Takara and Hasbro's TFs?

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Mindmaster » Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:58 pm

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cruizerdave wrote:I thought that since they merged a year or two back, there wasn't going to be any deviations between Takara and Hasbro's TFs?

What are you referring to?


HasTak’s “unified brand cohesion” initiative; in other words there will be no differences between Hasbro and Takara releases, and Masterpiece and Selects figures that would normally be only seen in Japan is carried over as Hasbro Pulse exclusives and not imports, making them more widely available.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Jeddostotle7 » Thu Jul 09, 2020 4:16 pm

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Mindmaster wrote:
Jeddostotle7 wrote:
cruizerdave wrote:I thought that since they merged a year or two back, there wasn't going to be any deviations between Takara and Hasbro's TFs?

What are you referring to?


HasTak’s “unified brand cohesion” initiative; in other words there will be no differences between Hasbro and Takara releases, and Masterpiece and Selects figures that would normally be only seen in Japan is carried over as Hasbro Pulse exclusives and not imports, making them more widely available.

No, I'm extremely aware of that, I was wondering what supposed deviations they were referring to.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Thu Jul 09, 2020 5:00 pm

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Jeddostotle7 wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:
Jeddostotle7 wrote:
cruizerdave wrote:I thought that since they merged a year or two back, there wasn't going to be any deviations between Takara and Hasbro's TFs?

What are you referring to?


HasTak’s “unified brand cohesion” initiative; in other words there will be no differences between Hasbro and Takara releases, and Masterpiece and Selects figures that would normally be only seen in Japan is carried over as Hasbro Pulse exclusives and not imports, making them more widely available.

No, I'm extremely aware of that, I was wondering what supposed deviations they were referring to.
Fires of Inferno apparently hasn't gotten with the program yet. Look:

Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:I am surprisingly underwhelmed by this Arcee. Her vehicle mode looks like a piece of candy. I'm glad I picked up the T30 Arcee. I will be honest, I'm still tempted to grab this Arcee. I might want to see the Takara version first to be honest.
News flash: The "Flashier Takara version" thing died with the start of PotP.

Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:She is pretty well articulated so there's that. It bothers me that the paint on her mid-section and waist doesn't go all the way around to the back. I don't get why Hasbro does that.
Because they've never exactly been generous with regard to paint budgets on regular-release figures, and with a limited paint budget the deco artists tend to skimp on out-of-view areas.

Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:That last shot really does sway me a little more to the "maybe" area rather than a hard no. I wonder if the rest of her backpack can be removed.
I admit I'm somewhat warming up because of the articulation, but that lack of the T30 version's altmode integration still bugs me. I hope someone makes a headmaster conversion kit for her.

As for removing the rest of the backpack? Probably. But the problem with taking it all off is that would remove Arcee's signature behind-the-shoulder front fenders.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby sol magnus » Thu Jul 09, 2020 5:03 pm

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Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:I am surprisingly underwhelmed by this Arcee. Her vehicle mode looks like a piece of candy. I'm glad I picked up the T30 Arcee. I will be honest, I'm still tempted to grab this Arcee. I might want to see the Takara version first to be honest. She is pretty well articulated so there's that. It bothers me that the paint on her mid-section and waist doesn't go all the way around to the back. I don't get why Hasbro does that.

That last shot really does sway me a little more to the "maybe" area rather than a hard no. I wonder if the rest of her backpack can be removed.

There's zero difference between the Takara version and the American (or wherever) version since the brand unification.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Fires_Of_Inferno » Thu Jul 09, 2020 5:10 pm

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You mean.... they decided to combine their lines so that things will be smoother overall, and they decided to go with the WORSE paint applications? So the only hope for better figures is actually going to be 3rd party? BLLLLLAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRGH
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Thu Jul 09, 2020 5:17 pm

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Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:You mean.... they decided to combine their lines so that things will be smoother overall, and they decided to go with the WORSE paint applications? So the only hope for better figures is actually going to be 3rd party? BLLLLLAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRGH
:roll:
1. This happened two years ago, what's your excuse for not noticing?
2. Of course they went with the tighter paint budget - I don't think Hasbro's shareholders would allow anything else.
3. It's just freaking paint apps. Stop being such a spoiled brat about it.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Sentinel_Primal » Thu Jul 09, 2020 5:22 pm

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I'd also point out that Takara's prices were ridiculous. People are complaining about a $50 voyager with extra parts, but would happily shell out $40 for a prettier deluxe. Besides, Hasbro's paint apps are good enough. At least they stopped using stickers (personally was never against it, but I know a lot of people were)
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Fires_Of_Inferno » Thu Jul 09, 2020 5:27 pm

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ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:You mean.... they decided to combine their lines so that things will be smoother overall, and they decided to go with the WORSE paint applications? So the only hope for better figures is actually going to be 3rd party? BLLLLLAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRGH
:roll:
1. This happened two years ago, what's your excuse for not noticing?
2. Of course they went with the tighter paint budget - I don't think Hasbro's shareholders would allow anything else.
3. It's just freaking paint apps. Stop being such a spoiled brat about it.


1: I don't normally look at toy news other than releases.
2: yeah that makes sense really. the extra paint apps would be expensive and I'd probably go to Reprolabels for things anyway.
3: This is gonna sound weird coming from a guy who was just bitching about paint apps, but wow, calm down.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby sol magnus » Thu Jul 09, 2020 5:43 pm

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Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:You mean.... they decided to combine their lines so that things will be smoother overall, and they decided to go with the WORSE paint applications? So the only hope for better figures is actually going to be 3rd party? BLLLLLAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRGH
:roll:
1. This happened two years ago, what's your excuse for not noticing?
2. Of course they went with the tighter paint budget - I don't think Hasbro's shareholders would allow anything else.
3. It's just freaking paint apps. Stop being such a spoiled brat about it.


1: I don't normally look at toy news other than releases.
2: yeah that makes sense really. the extra paint apps would be expensive and I'd probably go to Reprolabels for things anyway.
3: This is gonna sound weird coming from a guy who was just bitching about paint apps, but wow, calm down.

Yeah. Maybe sit the next couple of plays out.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Fires_Of_Inferno » Thu Jul 09, 2020 5:51 pm

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sol magnus wrote:
Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:You mean.... they decided to combine their lines so that things will be smoother overall, and they decided to go with the WORSE paint applications? So the only hope for better figures is actually going to be 3rd party? BLLLLLAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRGH
:roll:
1. This happened two years ago, what's your excuse for not noticing?
2. Of course they went with the tighter paint budget - I don't think Hasbro's shareholders would allow anything else.
3. It's just freaking paint apps. Stop being such a spoiled brat about it.


1: I don't normally look at toy news other than releases.
2: yeah that makes sense really. the extra paint apps would be expensive and I'd probably go to Reprolabels for things anyway.
3: This is gonna sound weird coming from a guy who was just bitching about paint apps, but wow, calm down.

Yeah. Maybe sit the next couple of plays out.



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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby sol magnus » Thu Jul 09, 2020 5:53 pm

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Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:
sol magnus wrote:
Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:You mean.... they decided to combine their lines so that things will be smoother overall, and they decided to go with the WORSE paint applications? So the only hope for better figures is actually going to be 3rd party? BLLLLLAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRGH
:roll:
1. This happened two years ago, what's your excuse for not noticing?
2. Of course they went with the tighter paint budget - I don't think Hasbro's shareholders would allow anything else.
3. It's just freaking paint apps. Stop being such a spoiled brat about it.


1: I don't normally look at toy news other than releases.
2: yeah that makes sense really. the extra paint apps would be expensive and I'd probably go to Reprolabels for things anyway.
3: This is gonna sound weird coming from a guy who was just bitching about paint apps, but wow, calm down.

Yeah. Maybe sit the next couple of plays out.



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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby o.supreme » Thu Jul 09, 2020 6:19 pm

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So....Allicions bot hands just hang off the back of the arms in Gator mode? Unless it was mistransformed, that's kind of goofy. With an incredibly simple transformation for a deluxe, you'd think they'd at least have wrists that fold.in.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Starseeker » Thu Jul 09, 2020 6:26 pm

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby DMSL » Thu Jul 09, 2020 6:26 pm

Weapon: Electro-Laser Cannon
I want vehicle weapon storage like we did in the old classic days, that just completed the figure for me.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby DMSL » Thu Jul 09, 2020 6:27 pm

Weapon: Electro-Laser Cannon
Grrat figure, but his weapon is lame, needs a decent pistol.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Thu Jul 09, 2020 6:33 pm

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I'm sorry for flying off the handle at you, Fires.

I was being reminded of the days when you could hardly move your mouse without hitting a "RARGH THERE'S LESS PAINT ON THIS! HASBRO IS SCAMMING US! GET THE TORCHES AND PITCHFORKS!" post... I wonder if you can get therapy for stuff like that trying your patience.

DMSL, which figure are you even referring to?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Ultra Mad » Thu Jul 09, 2020 6:41 pm

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I will maybe pick her up for my War for Cybertron shelf as Cynertronian Arcee but even then...I have the T30 Takara Legend in my G1 display case and she looks a lot better then this. No replacement for Generations past figure of this character.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Jeddostotle7 » Thu Jul 09, 2020 7:02 pm

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Cobotron » Thu Jul 09, 2020 7:27 pm

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby blackeyedprime » Thu Jul 09, 2020 8:14 pm

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Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:You mean.... they decided to combine their lines so that things will be smoother overall, and they decided to go with the WORSE paint applications? So the only hope for better figures is actually going to be 3rd party? BLLLLLAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRGH


You do have one more hope...Hasbro. If they release arcee as part of the netflix line up, her paint could be different (and then there is a slim chance of Japanese limited editions -not the standard western releases that they are releasing as limited editions over there) There was some speculation of a Takara alicon set in different colors way back but it might just have been protoypes/non finalised paint schemes.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Gauntlet101010 » Thu Jul 09, 2020 9:18 pm

I just remembered I had this on preorder at BBTS. Just canceled. Smokescreen I'll get, Alicon I'll get x3, but this version of Arcee ... maybe if I see it in stores. MAYBE. But this is one of those figures that makes me wish brand unification never happened because a good paintjob could have saved it. Transformation aside the molds are good enough

This and Siege Ultra Magnus make me wish for the glory days of yore.

Maybe I'll pick it up in stores since I do have both Lifeline AND Nightbird sharing the Arcee mold. But this just isn't worth the preorder.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Sentinel_Primal » Thu Jul 09, 2020 9:24 pm

Weapon: Thermal Sword
Hopefully we get a Lifeline out of this new one. I'd be willing to pick that up. And I might pick up Arcee and give her Smashdown and retail Lionizer for weapons. Wish the head was a little better, but hopefully a Shapeways upgrade gets made. But, I don't expect one to be made in a way that'd I'd get it because I'd rather we get a more stern/stoic face rather than the smile we tend to get
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