The Energon Pub

[ScottyP]

I don't need another Springer but at least it's not an 84/85 character? Guess that one fan that didn't like the Roche Springer toy can be happy now. They're probably out there somewhere.

[Burn]

Some day I might find these in the wild.

Might also become Pope.

Think the second one might be more realistic these days.

[Emerje]

Well this was unexpected if it turns out to be true. User Mr. Chaos on the TFW2005 forums has posted some new UPC codes for known figures from an anonymous source, but included was a new UPC for a figure that we haven't heard rumors of yet: Leader class Astrotrain.

WFC Leader Class Astrotrain. E3419. UPC 63050988227

Now, obviously, this hasn't been confirmed by Hasbro so take this rumor with a grain of salt. We are heading into Toy Fair starting Friday so there's a possibility this figure may make an appearance at the event if it's true. Thanks to Seibertronian Autobot N for making us aware! Feel free to speculate away in the Energon Pub forums below!

[RodimusConvoy13]

I don't need another Springer but at least it's not an 84/85 character? Guess that one fan that didn't like the Roche Springer toy can be happy now. They're probably out there somewhere.

I love the Generations Springer. It’s fantaric. I’m really looking forward to this one too though. It looks straight out of the ‘86 Movie and with the way that Siege has been knocking them out of the park, I bet this will be a really good figure.

[DecepticonFinishline]

If I can just get all the triple changers in a consistent style, I guess I'll be happy. I'd rather see them ALSO be the same size class (which is why I have been hoping for Springer have a Titan Master), but whatever. I just want all six to match... If they're gonna re-do all the ones that were in Titans Return, then so be it. As long as they match.

[Nemesis Maximo]

I’ll be keeping my T30 Springer, thank you very much. That has got to be one of the greatest action figure toys I own.

[william-james88]

Hmmmmm Is that springer a new mold?

What else would it be?

[Seibertron]

I don't need another Springer but at least it's not an 84/85 character? Guess that one fan that didn't like the Roche Springer toy can be happy now. They're probably out there somewhere.

I never cared much for the thin and lanky Generations Springer. I'm extremely happy with this update. Can't wait to see the robot mode! Hopefully he's stocky or bulky like his animation model.

[Albatross250]

I"ve got better things to do tonight than die!
-Springer

[Deadput]

More pics via the thread on Tfw2005

[frogbat]

Budget constraints and shelf space mean I might not go for repaints where possible. Though red alert and thundercracker do look the part.

Even hough I enjoyed the previous springer and sandstorm figures, it did have some issues with stiffness (i’ll Probably need a pen knife to move some panels next time I transform them). Also some of the proportions didn’t feel right. Can’t wait for more pix if this guy’s other modes to see how he stacks up.

Re astrotrain, was pretty happy with the tr version but I guess they want to balance the triple changers faction releases. A commander class would be nice...

Besides some obvious choices for characters like the usual suspects... eg megs and prime, they seem to be cherry picking bots which were already cybertronian... the seekers... jetfire... so where are bumblebee and wheeljack? Jazz too.. granted we’ve had our fair share but they’d be obvious picks. Also... the 3 autobot targetmasters... their vehicles were always cybertronian... they could fit them in... really want to complete that line up.

[Nemesis Primal]

Oh, there are the null rays. That other picture was definitely a cross-promotional shot though, meaning Wave 3 has another Blowpipe-type Targetmaster, I assume Caliburst? Regardless, Thundercracker still looks good, but I'm still going to wait.

Springer's still a pass.

It actually greatly surprises me how much better Red Alert looks than Sideswipe. It was easy for me to pass on Sideswipe because of how basic that G1 design is and how boring Sideswipe looks, but this version of the mold looks way more appealing. I might actually grab him if he looks this good in person, wow. Apparently all it took was for them to give him an actually interesting color scheme and details other than just Everything Is Red. Also it looks like he has the same light bar piece as Prowl, but his gun seems to be new. This does give me at least slightly more hope for Barricade to actually be good (only slightly though).

As for Prime, there was nothing that would change my mind at this point I think, but these pictures did cause me to notice some things:
-It looks like they left his shoulder armor on his shoulders when they transformed him to alt mode rather than store it in the boots like reviewers have done, I wonder which is the official transformation?
-Seeing the inner robot here in a clear shot has caused me to realize that to me, since my first Prime was the Unicron Trilogy one (my good old Bendy Prime, who's been my only Prime until this year), it looks/feels more right to me for Optimus Prime to have yellow eyes rather than blue eyes.

Overall, very much looking forwards to what we'll see this weekend, and to most of these figures (sorry Springer).

[Albatross250]

i can't wait for Skywarp (Which is going to be a Starscream Redeco) and do his thing during More Than Meets The Eye Part III

[DecepticonFinishline]

Budget constraints and shelf space mean I might not go for repaints where possible. Though red alert and thundercracker do look the part.

Even hough I enjoyed the previous springer and sandstorm figures, it did have some issues with stiffness (i’ll Probably need a pen knife to move some panels next time I transform them). Also some of the proportions didn’t feel right. Can’t wait for more pix if this guy’s other modes to see how he stacks up.

Re astrotrain, was pretty happy with the tr version but I guess they want to balance the triple changers faction releases. A commander class would be nice...

Besides some obvious choices for characters like the usual suspects... eg megs and prime, they seem to be cherry picking bots which were already cybertronian... the seekers... jetfire... so where are bumblebee and wheeljack? Jazz too.. granted we’ve had our fair share but they’d be obvious picks. Also... the 3 autobot targetmasters... their vehicles were always cybertronian... they could fit them in... really want to complete that line up.

I think we're gonna see another line full of Titan Masters (or whatever name they decide to give them) and we'll see the Autobot Targetmasters, (hopefully a Cyclonus to match TR Scourge,) Apeface, Snapdragon and Scorponok as the Titan. At least I hope so. If they don't have Head/Titan Masters, then that's YET ANOTHER "set" that doesn't match each other.

[Albatross250]

I guess im the only one who wants Vector Prime after i get Galaxy Optimus. but if he got a new model on SIEGE, i'd totally waste my wallet for it

[Carnivius_Prime]

Hm, Springer's actually appealing to me. Even I get him just as part of a small Marvel UK set. I still have the 30th thrilling one and it's nice but I've gone off it a tad and it doesn't really fit in my mostly movie collection anyways. I painted up a TR Hot Rod as a Marvel figure so this Springer might fit well with it.

I agree with the comment that the Red Alert deco makes the boring Sideswipe mold look a bit more interesting.

Does Springer have two swords now? His 30th and G1 toys had one sword made up of both rotor blades coming together. This one looks like you just use one blade to make a sword. Which is nice. Though again I question the practicality of using a key part of your alt-mode's mobility as a weapon that could get damaged or lost. But hey at least he's got his car mode as a back up.

[Ultra Markus]

oh good then i can recreate this scene

[Jeddostotle7]

I kinda like how this Springer deals with something deco-wise that I've been thinking about since the leaked listing for him: were they gonna go with the toy-style yellow hood/chest, or cartoon-style green? Their solution is a nice blend: Keep the yellow, but relegate it to the very front of the hood/bottom of the chest so in robot mode it still largely matches the movie look in robot mode, but doesn't outright ditch the yellow there.

[frogbat]

I think we're gonna see another line full of Titan Masters (or whatever name they decide to give them) and we'll see the Autobot Targetmasters, (hopefully a Cyclonus to match TR Scourge,) Apeface, Snapdragon and Scorponok as the Titan. At least I hope so. If they don't have Head/Titan Masters, then that's YET ANOTHER "set" that doesn't match each other.

Maybe in the "revenge of the titans" or something...

I'd be ok for the target masters to lose the headmaster gimmick - I'd be more concerned if they were too small in relation to the previous TR deluxes.

[Albatross250]

I Found something interesting on twitter, although the post is in Japanese
With the recent Astrotrain rumor, somethings odd happening on Siege Website recently, if you type "SUNSTREAKER" or "TARN"
This appears:


Hang on, are these coming on Siege line?


Twitter source: https://twitter.com/redeyeToy1/status/1 ... 3721612293
Retwitted source: https://twitter.com/SpiderSorcerer/stat ... 2915895296


Oh no... i don't like this at all, the DJD is giving me PTSDs.

[Nemesis Primal]

I Found something interesting on twitter, although the post is in Japanese
With the recent Astrotrain rumor, somethings odd happening on Siege Website recently, if you type "SUNSTREAKER" or "TARN"
This appears:


Hang on, are these coming on Siege line?


Twitter source: https://twitter.com/redeyeToy1/status/1 ... 3721612293
Retwitted source: https://twitter.com/SpiderSorcerer/stat ... 2915895296


Oh no... i don't like this at all, the DJD is giving me PTSDs.

...were those not the on-package codes for Sideswipe and Shockwave, respectively? I don't have either of those figures, but I'm pretty sure this isn't new information. Don't get me wrong, I'd absolutely love an actual figure of Tarn, but I feel like this isn't confirmation of that.

[Albatross250]

I Found something interesting on twitter, although the post is in Japanese
With the recent Astrotrain rumor, somethings odd happening on Siege Website recently, if you type "SUNSTREAKER" or "TARN"
This appears:


Hang on, are these coming on Siege line?


Twitter source: https://twitter.com/redeyeToy1/status/1 ... 3721612293
Retwitted source: https://twitter.com/SpiderSorcerer/stat ... 2915895296


Oh no... i don't like this at all, the DJD is giving me PTSDs.

...were those not the on-package codes for Sideswipe and Shockwave, respectively? I don't have either of those figures, but I'm pretty sure this isn't new information. Don't get me wrong, I'd absolutely love an actual figure of Tarn, but I feel like this isn't confirmation of that.

Who doesn't? the Altmode looks Slick and Sick!


And i still want a Roller because Roller looks like Tarn, and not Glitch.

[Mechastrike]

Springer looks so photoshopped. have to wait for actual product shots. looking forward to it though.

[ScottyP]

Springer looks so photoshopped.

I didn't know Photoshop could do CAD renders.

For real though they used to have grey models hand painted and would then Photoshop those further for promo images and folks complained. Now they just use the CAD models when these aren't yet production ready and... complaining. We're terrible

I don't need another Springer but at least it's not an 84/85 character? Guess that one fan that didn't like the Roche Springer toy can be happy now. They're probably out there somewhere.

I never cared much for the thin and lanky Generations Springer. I'm extremely happy with this update. Can't wait to see the robot mode! Hopefully he's stocky or bulky like his animation model.

I thought getting closer to animation models wasn't necessarily a good thing? Don't get me wrong, I understand your point here as Generations Springer was 100% based on his IDW design (I say this now recalling that the Sandstorm design came first apparently!), just pointing out how you moved away from MP figures for getting too far into looking like animation designs. I'm sure if elaborating you'd say that you like the balance between animation model and extra detail.

Anyway Generations Springer is one of the best Transformers figures of the past decade so a new one has a long way to go to impress me. This is not to say it won't be a fun, satisfying toy. I'm just hard to impress despite being easy to please

[ScottyP]

I'd actually meant to comment on Astrotrain. I was hoping a new Astrotrain would use the new "Commander" class like Jetfire. I just want to shove other Decepticons in an Astrotrain sometime.