The Energon Pub

[Emerje]

Also don't forget inflation, that mega class seems cheap by today's standards, but did it back in 96?

That's a valid point as well.

So we're really only paying $5 more comparatively. And argument can be made as to weather the figures have gained that much value over time or not.

Emerje

[ZeldaTheSwordsman]

I would say that strictly speaking we're not, if only because while engineering has shown improvements in some areas... the toys are priced chiefly by the quantity of plastic, which has diminished.

[ZeroWolf]

Couldn't that be because the cost of plastic has gone up as well?

[william-james88]

I would say that strictly speaking we're not, if only because while engineering has shown improvements in some areas... the toys are priced chiefly by the quantity of plastic, which has diminished.

Not at all. The most expensive part of the process is the molding. A higher parts count means more molds. The amount of plastic doesn't have much to do with it, it's the complexity of the figure above all.

If amount of plastic was actually as big a factor as you claim then that giant RID Bumblebee should cost as much as Titan Devastator, which isn't the case.

All in all, I am pretty impressed that Hasbro found a way to still give us really nice and affordable toys.

[william-james88]

If you want to know some spoilers to the contents of the spoiler boxset, well we now have a full description of its contents. For those still wishing to purchase a white box not knowing what is inside, you can buy it at the following link and stop reading after that.

Here is the link to the Walmart site: https://www.walmart.com/ip/Transformers/264962216

In the UK, this item can be purchased from Zavvi, a reputable collectibles e-tailer (who has surprisingly good shipping prices for international customers).

Both sites list the contents of the box. Here it is:

Transformers Toys Generations War for Cybertron Trilogy Series-Inspired Leader Ultra Magnus Spoiler Pack - Ages 8 and Up, 7-inch

SPOILER ALERT: Hidden within this pack are spoilers for the War for Cybertron series! Fans shouldn’t decode the Cybertronian if they don't want key events from the show revealed!
SERIES-INSPIRED FIGURE: This Ultra Magnus figure is inspired by the character as seen in the War for Cybertron series. With 53 deco ops, this series-inspired figure brings fans the most detailed and series-accurate version of Ultra Magnus
CLASSIC TRANSFORMERS CONVERSION: This Ultra Magnus toy converts to armored truck mode in 26 steps, the included Battlefield Rung converts to weapon mode in 4 steps. Includes 12 accessories
DIG FOR ENERGON: 3 vibrant pink Energon cubes are hidden inside a compound for fans to dig out. Also comes with Battlefield Rung figure with epic Energon-infused deco
AMMO BOX-INSPIRED PACKAGING: Awesome packaging designed to look like a battered and worn ammo box straight out of the trenches of War for Cybertron
Build the ultimate battlefield inspired by scenes from the Transformers War for Cybertron series. This pack includes a Leader Class 7-inch scale Ultra Magnus figure inspired by the character as seen in the War for Cybertron series. With 70 deco ops and battle-worn details this is the most series-accurate version of the character. Ultra Magnus, the selfless Autobot Major, will do whatever it takes to end the war on Cybertron.

The Ultra Magnus toy converts to armored truck mode in 26 steps and includes 12 weapon and armor accessories to build up the figure. Also includes Battlefield Rung figure with epic Energon-infused deco. Comes with 3 Energon cubes hidden inside a mysterious compound. Fans can imagine digging the valuable Energon out to fuel the battle!

SPOILER ALERT! Inside the awesome ammo-inspired packing are spoilers for the War for Cybertron series written in Cybertronian!

Transformers and all related characters are trademarks of Hasbro.

Includes: 2 figures, compound, 3 Energon cubes, accessories, and instructions.

Figure scale: 7 inches

[aronjlove]

I want that Spoiler pack so I can have three Rung figures and they shall be named Ring, Rang, and Rung. I'm also freaking love Siege Ultra Magnus so any excuse to buy a redeco.

[sol magnus]

Don't have a Rung, so they just got me to pay for another Ultra Magnus.

[MagnusSeeker]

When reading the details of the Ultra Magnus Spoiler Pack they say the figure is 7" tall I think. So that's the size roughly of a deluxe figure, correct? It may just be me but I passed on the UM Siege figure because of the size. I don't like how he's a "leader class" which makes him larger then almost all the other figures including Optimus. I'd prefer him to be the same size as Optimus....

[Jelze Bunnycat]

Maybe, maybe not. But the $20 price tag of 2005-2010 felt decent for a Voyager at the time relative to our earning power, which has not kept pace with inflation so well. And since 2011, Transformers have dwindled in mass while the prices have crept upward... But it could be worse.

Not as much as you think, in fact when weighed some current figures are heavier than previous ones. ER Hoist for instance is the heaviest of his wave at 3.2 ounces or 91 grams, and Wheeljack is an average 2.7 or 77 grams, same as Siege Mirage and surprisingly, TR Sergeant Kup. Just saying

[emlit]

Gotta love Walmart for reminding us that Transformer toys are not gluten-free.

[Brokebot]

Gotta love Walmart for reminding us that Transformer toys are not gluten-free.

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They also give Californians cancer.

[Sabrblade]

Don't have a Rung, so they just got me to pay for another Ultra Magnus.

Rung is getting reissued in Earthrise like Astrotrain and Smashdown.

[ZeldaTheSwordsman]

Maybe, maybe not. But the $20 price tag of 2005-2010 felt decent for a Voyager at the time relative to our earning power, which has not kept pace with inflation so well. And since 2011, Transformers have dwindled in mass while the prices have crept upward... But it could be worse.

Not as much as you think, in fact when weighed some current figures are heavier than previous ones. ER Hoist for instance is the heaviest of his wave at 3.2 ounces or 91 grams, and Wheeljack is an average 2.7 or 77 grams, same as Siege Mirage and surprisingly, TR Sergeant Kup. Just saying

Okay, but that's all post-Dark of the Moon stuff. Compare a DOTM or Generations Voyager to, say, a Cybertron or ROTF Voyager and you'll notice more of a difference.

Gotta love Walmart for reminding us that Transformer toys are not gluten-free.

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They also give Californians cancer.

Those warnings are so we know materials present have the potential of being carcinogenous and we'd rather make an informed decision about whether to accept that risk rather than blunder about in blissful ignorance like the rest of you bozos

Also, and more importantly to the corporations, they prevent some smeghead from suing and claiming "Well they didn't warn me!"

[william-james88]

Gotta love Walmart for reminding us that Transformer toys are not gluten-free.

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They also give Californians cancer.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

Also, and more importantly to the corporations, they prevent some smeghead from suing and claiming "Well they didn't warn me!"

At least the "I didn't read the warnings" excuse doesn't fly in courts, that should count for something... or does it?

[Flashwave]

Soo, yeah. If Walmart wants me to buy another Ultra Magnus I am gonna have to see PICTURES. Tempting though the description reads, I'm not plunking money down blindly.

[Rodimus Prime]

Also, and more importantly to the corporations, they prevent some smeghead from suing and claiming "Well they didn't warn me!"

At least the "I didn't read the warnings" excuse doesn't fly in courts, that should count for something... or does it?

Who knows? It's California.

As for this new Magnus set, I'll buy it if it's in purple and green/black, because I love the mold. Pretend it's Motormaster. Otherwise, pass. Rung can suck it.

[Skritz]

If there is one stereotype about 'murricans that is stronger than Californian Hipsters, Rednecks or Florida Man...its 'Dumb people who sue a company because they did something stupid so now all boxes have dumb warnings'.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Advantage to not yet getting Siege Magnus: I feel perfectly OK with jumping in on this blind.

also looking forward to another Rung. It's awesome he's getting a box set treatment, and hopefully he ends up in the cartoon

[Skritz]

Some say its a Dark Energon Magnus so he might be covered in purple cracks or have some translucent purple. I think a Decepticon Magnus might just end up a boring black repaint, however. Or they could make it a double whammy and have an evil Magnus whose cab robot is Shattered Glass colored. Would be weird but who knows?

[TF-fan kev777]

Soo, yeah. If Walmart wants me to buy another Ultra Magnus I am gonna have to see PICTURES. Tempting though the description reads, I'm not plunking money down blindly.

I'm hedging my bets and placed an order. I'm guessing that Tonton or someone else who gets the figures up for review early should be showing them sometime in March, early enough for me to cancel the pre-order if I the deco isn't something I want.

[ZeldaTheSwordsman]

Some say its a Dark Energon Magnus so he might be covered in purple cracks or have some translucent purple. I think a Decepticon Magnus might just end up a boring black repaint, however. Or they could make it a double whammy and have an evil Magnus whose cab robot is Shattered Glass colored. Would be weird but who knows?

Mold layout would get in the way of having the red head on that, I think, so what you'd end up with is Delta Magnus' cab robot. Or else a Magnus with a blue torso and arms, and red head and legs.

[durroth]

When reading the details of the Ultra Magnus Spoiler Pack they say the figure is 7" tall I think. So that's the size roughly of a deluxe figure, correct? It may just be me but I passed on the UM Siege figure because of the size. I don't like how he's a "leader class" which makes him larger then almost all the other figures including Optimus. I'd prefer him to be the same size as Optimus....

Deluxes are about 4" figures. He's just the siege figure with a new deco. I don't really see why he'd be the same size as optimus, that doesn't really make sense scale wise for the character.

[Skritz]

While G1 scale is insanely out of whack, production pieces do give us a very loose estimate of the intended size in relation to one another. Magnus is definitely designed to be taller than Optimus.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Some say its a Dark Energon Magnus so he might be covered in purple cracks or have some translucent purple. I think a Decepticon Magnus might just end up a boring black repaint, however. Or they could make it a double whammy and have an evil Magnus whose cab robot is Shattered Glass colored. Would be weird but who knows?

I really hope it's this, that would be awesome.

also, I did get him