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[o.supreme]

Are we all caught up? Because if people are confused, I could start the power point presentation I have.

No I totally got it, tried to lean into it as well, just because I'm not a fan of IDW post the *split* until its ugly end. I guess mine fell flat as well

[Jelze Bunnycat]

Lastly though, and a bit concerning, Emgo's review was the only one I've seen online that addressed the "Titans Return" base compatibility issue. He claims (shows in video) the ramps are in fact NOT compatible with TR bases. If true, this will definitely not put me off getting Omega, but I wonder why Warden & Co. would make such a claim if not true? Also it will definitely change my mind about getting Astrotrain. It seems he may have some compatibility with Omega, but not with any TR bases. I'm hoping Emgo himself just didn't fully understand or was trying to hook them up incorrectly.

Anyone else have solid proof the base modes can actually connect? I'd love for it to be true

As Sabr pointed out a few pages back, Omega is compatible with TR, and with Siege Astrotrain, but there are 2 different types of connectors and connections points. So far, it looks like Astrotrain only has this newer type of connector and will only connect to OS (and possibly future toys).

For the TR connections, those all connect directly to the track (see photo) and there are 2 connection points one on each track piece. There are 4 of the newer connection points. 2 of them are black flip out connectors on the track portions of the legs. The other 2 are on the end of the ramps, but appear to be completely useless based on where they are located inside the track. I flipped one up to show the connection end a little better in my photo.

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Doesn't the track use the same new type?

[o.supreme]

I think the best way to describe it is, the outer parameter of the track has TR connections, whereas track-to-track, or track-to-base are the newer Siege ones. They also have a couple of these connected to the launching platform on OS. All these newer ones will also work with Astrotrain, if I am understanding what I'm seeing.

[Sabrblade]

I think the best way to describe it is, the outer parameter of the track has TR connections, whereas track-to-track, or track-to-base are the newer Siege ones. They also have a couple of these connected to the launching platform on OS. All these newer ones will also work with Astrotrain, if I am understanding what I'm seeing.

There are only two TR connector ports on the track's outer ring, each located in the middle of the curve. The rest of the connector ports on the outside of the track are the new type.

[o.supreme]

I think the best way to describe it is, the outer parameter of the track has TR connections, whereas track-to-track, or track-to-base are the newer Siege ones. They also have a couple of these connected to the launching platform on OS. All these newer ones will also work with Astrotrain, if I am understanding what I'm seeing.

There are only two TR connector ports on the track's outer ring, each located in the middle of the curve. The rest of the connector ports on the outside of the track are the new type.

OK, makes sense. I understood from the pics there were only 2 TR compatible connections on the tracks exterior, I was unaware there were additional newer Siege ones as well.

[Wolfman Jake]

I’m looking to pick up the later revision of Siege Starscream, the one with the less flimsy chest piece and the correct G1 Decepticon symbols (as opposed to the live action movie styled ones on the Wave 2 release). What production code stamp should I look for, as it’s hard to tell if the chest flap is tight or the Decepticon symbols right when the figure is in package.

[blackeyedprime]

Threw the packaging away but I made sure to get the one from a springer/scream case despite being able to have got the first release a bit cheaper.

[Wolfman Jake]

I’ve taken a chance and bought a Starscream with a 91441 batch code imprint. The other one on the shelf had a code tampographed, not pressed into the cardboard, with a lower batch number. I won’t know if I’ve got a fixed version until I get home from work later.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Honestly at this point I'd just accept more Animated homages in general. Closest things we've had to Animated since it ended are that new Lugnut in Cyberverse and Thrilling 30 Blitzwing, and no one can tell me that it wasn't just Animated Blitzwing in G1 colors Though, I will say that Animated would be hard to incorporate cohesively into current lines due to it having such a distinct style. It'd be like putting Bayverse Prime into the standard Generations line. Though, if they toned the chins down, it might work

I can agree with this. animated was so good, we need more of it!

[TF-fan kev777]

I’ve taken a chance and bought a Starscream with a 91441 batch code imprint. The other one on the shelf had a code tampographed, not pressed into the cardboard, with a lower batch number. I won’t know if I’ve got a fixed version until I get home from work later.

As someone with the original version, I can say that at least for my copy, once you have the transformation down, it is actually pretty easy to transform mine without having the chest panel pop off. Mine did originally the first few times I transformed him both from bot to tetrajet and back. But it hasn't popped off in the last few months despite me transforming him quote often.

So if you do end up with one of the original/looser ones, it may not be that bad for you.

[Wolfman Jake]

I'm happy to report that my 91441 Starscream is, in fact, one of the later revisions with the chest and tampographs fixes! The chest piece didn't even come loose from the hinges during transformation to tetrajet mode and back to robot mode. The Decepticon symbols have the correct triangular G1 eyes instead of the quadrilateral ones from the live action move. Now, what to do with my earlier run Starscream?

[Skritz]

Honestly at this point I'd just accept more Animated homages in general. Closest things we've had to Animated since it ended are that new Lugnut in Cyberverse and Thrilling 30 Blitzwing, and no one can tell me that it wasn't just Animated Blitzwing in G1 colors Though, I will say that Animated would be hard to incorporate cohesively into current lines due to it having such a distinct style. It'd be like putting Bayverse Prime into the standard Generations line. Though, if they toned the chins down, it might work

I can agree with this. animated was so good, we need more of it!

I'll take WFC Lugnut, Lockdown and Bulkhead any day!

[Stargrave]

I'm happy to report that my 91441 Starscream is, in fact, one of the later revisions with the chest and tampographs fixes! The chest piece didn't even come loose from the hinges during transformation to tetrajet mode and back to robot mode. The Decepticon symbols have the correct triangular G1 eyes instead of the quadrilateral ones from the live action move. Now, what to do with my earlier run Starscream?

Slipstream custom?

[Cyberpath]

I'm happy to report that my 91441 Starscream is, in fact, one of the later revisions with the chest and tampographs fixes! The chest piece didn't even come loose from the hinges during transformation to tetrajet mode and back to robot mode. The Decepticon symbols have the correct triangular G1 eyes instead of the quadrilateral ones from the live action move. Now, what to do with my earlier run Starscream?

[Stargrave]

Don’t do it Prime!!

The mold!! It’s too good!!

I’ve got the initial release and other than transformation the thing never pops off in either mode it attaches great.

He’s my robot boy and I love him like he was my own sweet charming narcissistic psychopath with enough null ray fueled angst to level an army. So cute!

[emlit]

I'm happy to report that my 91441 Starscream is, in fact, one of the later revisions with the chest and tampographs fixes! The chest piece didn't even come loose from the hinges during transformation to tetrajet mode and back to robot mode. The Decepticon symbols have the correct triangular G1 eyes instead of the quadrilateral ones from the live action move. Now, what to do with my earlier run Starscream?

Having “Battlefield Wreckage Starscream” would make for some pretty cool fight scenes.

[Sabrblade]

I'm happy to report that my 91441 Starscream is, in fact, one of the later revisions with the chest and tampographs fixes! The chest piece didn't even come loose from the hinges during transformation to tetrajet mode and back to robot mode. The Decepticon symbols have the correct triangular G1 eyes instead of the quadrilateral ones from the live action move. Now, what to do with my earlier run Starscream?

Slipstream custom?

Nay! Green Goblin custom!

https://twitter.com/Peaugh/status/1103341320133840896

[Stargrave]

I'm happy to report that my 91441 Starscream is, in fact, one of the later revisions with the chest and tampographs fixes! The chest piece didn't even come loose from the hinges during transformation to tetrajet mode and back to robot mode. The Decepticon symbols have the correct triangular G1 eyes instead of the quadrilateral ones from the live action move. Now, what to do with my earlier run Starscream?

Slipstream custom?

Nay! Green Goblin custom!

https://twitter.com/Peaugh/status/1103341320133840896

Forsooth!! A winner doth arise!

[Stargrave]

Check it out Shockwave’s backpack fits perfect on Jetfire’s rifle

[Deadput]

Check it out Shockwave’s backpack fits perfect on Jetfire’s rifle

And the name of the gun?

The Jetwave Shockfire cannon

[Stargrave]

I’ve been trying to play with my Combiner Wars and Titans Return and Power of the Primes figures and I gotta say for me personally Siege wins hands down. Like over all of them.

The standard ankle tilts the better QC the lack of hollowness the Voyager and Leader classes that actually fit in with the rest of the line. Again this is just me but they’re more detailed better articulated more fun to play with all around just so much win. me happy Transformers fan.

TR Overlord is the one figure that kind of fits with Siege but all the others just feel like lower quality toys even though they’re awesome characters and toys and fan wishes come true left and right. It feels like forward moving progress.

[Stargrave]

Check it out Shockwave’s backpack fits perfect on Jetfire’s rifle

And the name of the gun?

The Jetwave Shockfire cannon

I love that! make it so!

[emlit]

Again this is just me but they’re more detailed better articulated more fun to play with all around just so much win. me happy Transformers fan.

I’m with you. Such a great toy line. I find myself making such great-looking kickass poses so often I’m reluctant to move some of the figures to transform and swoosh around. Solid builds with great sculpts and excellent detailing along with superb articulation equals unparalleled toy experience.

[blackeyedprime]

Again this is just me but they’re more detailed better articulated more fun to play with all around just so much win. me happy Transformers fan.

I’m with you. Such a great toy line. I find myself making such great-looking kickass poses so often I’m reluctant to move some of the figures to transform and swoosh around. Solid builds with great sculpts and excellent detailing along with superb articulation equals unparalleled toy experience.

I'm not with you :p but coming to view Siege as good looking action masters for the most part. Can't say I've needed to think of painting any of the tr/legends, most the tr alts are great and figures as good as they are (ultra and springer) lack some g1 touches. If the old leader class has gone for good it makes some characters no longer viable but much like legends size figures hopefully they will return for those that need it.

[ZeroWolf]

Again this is just me but they’re more detailed better articulated more fun to play with all around just so much win. me happy Transformers fan.

I’m with you. Such a great toy line. I find myself making such great-looking kickass poses so often I’m reluctant to move some of the figures to transform and swoosh around. Solid builds with great sculpts and excellent detailing along with superb articulation equals unparalleled toy experience.

I'm not with you :p but coming to view Siege as good looking action masters for the most part. Can't say I've needed to think of painting any of the tr/legends, most the tr alts are great and figures as good as they are (ultra and springer) lack some g1 touches. If the old leader class has gone for good it makes some characters no longer viable but much like legends size figures hopefully they will return for those that need it.

Action masters?

Also what characters need the leader Class?