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Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Tue Sep 24, 2019 4:25 pm

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Is it just me, or is Target being odd with stocking the Battle Masters and Micromasters? There were good with stocking them up to Wave 3 with Walmart stopping, but now they seem to have reverted back to Wave 1? :shock:
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Tue Sep 24, 2019 5:27 pm

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Is it just me, or is Target being odd with stocking the Battle Masters and Micromasters? There were good with stocking them up to Wave 3 with Walmart stopping, but now they seem to have reverted back to Wave 1? :shock:

My targets have consistently had wave 1 and wave 2 Micromasters, but nothing past.

Walmarts don't even carry those size classes anymore, haven't most of the year
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby emlit » Tue Sep 24, 2019 8:52 pm

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william-james88 wrote:
Ironhidensh wrote:
YRQRM0 wrote:Eh, the connectivity pegs are something I think I would've loved as a kid. Doesn't look great, but surely great play value :)


Hit the nail on the head. I think we as a community (yes, I'm pointing at myself here) forget this a lot.

These are childrens toys made for children. The G1 homage and aesthetic are simply to grab extra dollars from the collectors, but that's all we are, extra. We dont even rank a notch compared to parents buying for kids.


Apparently, fans older than 10 represent 30% of the consumers. Obviously still not the majority but a decent enough chunk that I can see why hasbro actually cared enough to redo those dino casettes, make a seeker 3 pack that no one but a few fans would care about, redo the power dashers ect.


With Masterpieces and multitudes of homages to G1 (I’m counting Siege), I’ll give Hasbro credit for keeping us adult collectors in mind.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Sep 24, 2019 9:04 pm

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emlit wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Ironhidensh wrote:
YRQRM0 wrote:Eh, the connectivity pegs are something I think I would've loved as a kid. Doesn't look great, but surely great play value :)


Hit the nail on the head. I think we as a community (yes, I'm pointing at myself here) forget this a lot.

These are childrens toys made for children. The G1 homage and aesthetic are simply to grab extra dollars from the collectors, but that's all we are, extra. We dont even rank a notch compared to parents buying for kids.


Apparently, fans older than 10 represent 30% of the consumers. Obviously still not the majority but a decent enough chunk that I can see why hasbro actually cared enough to redo those dino casettes, make a seeker 3 pack that no one but a few fans would care about, redo the power dashers ect.


With Masterpieces and multitudes of homages to G1 (I’m counting Siege), I’ll give Hasbro credit for keeping us adult collectors in mind.
Though, Masterpieces are all TakaraTomy's doing.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby emlit » Tue Sep 24, 2019 9:34 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:
emlit wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Ironhidensh wrote:
YRQRM0 wrote:Eh, the connectivity pegs are something I think I would've loved as a kid. Doesn't look great, but surely great play value :)


Hit the nail on the head. I think we as a community (yes, I'm pointing at myself here) forget this a lot.

These are childrens toys made for children. The G1 homage and aesthetic are simply to grab extra dollars from the collectors, but that's all we are, extra. We dont even rank a notch compared to parents buying for kids.


Apparently, fans older than 10 represent 30% of the consumers. Obviously still not the majority but a decent enough chunk that I can see why hasbro actually cared enough to redo those dino casettes, make a seeker 3 pack that no one but a few fans would care about, redo the power dashers ect.


With Masterpieces and multitudes of homages to G1 (I’m counting Siege), I’ll give Hasbro credit for keeping us adult collectors in mind.
Though, Masterpieces are all TakaraTomy's doing.


Not true. We can thank Hasbro for distribution outside of Japan.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Sep 24, 2019 9:38 pm

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emlit wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
emlit wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Ironhidensh wrote:
YRQRM0 wrote:Eh, the connectivity pegs are something I think I would've loved as a kid. Doesn't look great, but surely great play value :)


Hit the nail on the head. I think we as a community (yes, I'm pointing at myself here) forget this a lot.

These are childrens toys made for children. The G1 homage and aesthetic are simply to grab extra dollars from the collectors, but that's all we are, extra. We dont even rank a notch compared to parents buying for kids.


Apparently, fans older than 10 represent 30% of the consumers. Obviously still not the majority but a decent enough chunk that I can see why hasbro actually cared enough to redo those dino casettes, make a seeker 3 pack that no one but a few fans would care about, redo the power dashers ect.


With Masterpieces and multitudes of homages to G1 (I’m counting Siege), I’ll give Hasbro credit for keeping us adult collectors in mind.
Though, Masterpieces are all TakaraTomy's doing.


Not true. We can thank Hasbro for distribution outside of Japan.
I meant as far as conceiving, designing, and producing them.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby emlit » Tue Sep 24, 2019 10:02 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:
emlit wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
emlit wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Ironhidensh wrote:
YRQRM0 wrote:Eh, the connectivity pegs are something I think I would've loved as a kid. Doesn't look great, but surely great play value :)


Hit the nail on the head. I think we as a community (yes, I'm pointing at myself here) forget this a lot.

These are childrens toys made for children. The G1 homage and aesthetic are simply to grab extra dollars from the collectors, but that's all we are, extra. We dont even rank a notch compared to parents buying for kids.


Apparently, fans older than 10 represent 30% of the consumers. Obviously still not the majority but a decent enough chunk that I can see why hasbro actually cared enough to redo those dino casettes, make a seeker 3 pack that no one but a few fans would care about, redo the power dashers ect.


With Masterpieces and multitudes of homages to G1 (I’m counting Siege), I’ll give Hasbro credit for keeping us adult collectors in mind.
Though, Masterpieces are all TakaraTomy's doing.


Not true. We can thank Hasbro for distribution outside of Japan.
I meant as far as conceiving, designing, and producing them.


Fair enough. We’re getting a bit off-topic at this point. My original post was simply to support the notion that adult fans are a recognized and supported demographic (regardless of percentage).
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Ultra Markus » Tue Sep 24, 2019 10:59 pm

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Rodimus Knight wrote:So I might be in the minority here, but I think that looks awful. The connectivity thing was just a bad choice IMHO.

just add some 3rd party ramps from shapeways and it will be fine
i mean lots of ramps, to fix this mess #-o
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Fuhzimota » Wed Sep 25, 2019 6:11 am

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Here's a thought for a crazy (expensive) custom...
Pick 13 of the molds that will connect, give them unifying paint schemes, custom heads and accessories, and you could have the 13 Primes, and by connecting them, you could build Iacon... :-?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Fuhzimota » Wed Sep 25, 2019 6:11 am

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Here's a thought for a crazy (expensive) custom...
Pick 13 of the molds that will connect, give them unifying paint schemes, custom heads and accessories, and you could have the 13 Primes, and by connecting them, you could build Iacon... :-?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby joevill » Wed Sep 25, 2019 8:23 am

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This looks fun! I wonder how long it took to set up. Pretty massive if it took up an entire pool table. I cannot wait to do this!
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Wed Sep 25, 2019 8:36 am

joevill wrote:This looks fun! I wonder how long it took to set up. Pretty massive if it took up an entire pool table. I cannot wait to do this!


It took me about 4-5 hours to put all to put all the leaders into base modes from vehicle modes, and the titans into city modes from bot modes, and then figure everything out. I came really close to giving up on trying to fit it on the pool table and nearly moved it to the floor.

Glad I persisted though. I could probably get a better overall layout on the floor, but I would have to clean it up every time I was done wit it. Keeping it on the pool table meant I could leave it up for a while. This weekend my daughter and I will be playing with it, the Botbots will be taking over.
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Images of all Seven Transformers Siege Seekers Together

Postby william-james88 » Wed Sep 25, 2019 8:50 pm

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While there are several fans collecting all seekers using the Transformers War for Cybertron Siege voyager tetrajet mold, there have not been many images of all seven seekers together. Getting seven of these in one year has never happened before and the only other seeker molds to have as many (or more) so far is the MP11 mold and the classics mold, both of which took far more than a year to get to 7 characters. With the voyager height favoured amongst collectors as the height for these characters in a classics collection, it's time we took a breather and just looked at what this year accomplished for our Decepticon ranks. Below are the name of the seekers along with where they were available in the US:

Starscream - standard retail release
Thundercracker - standard retail release
Skywarp - part of Amazon exclusive boxset
Redwing - online Target red card exclusive
Nova Storm - part of Target exclusive boxset
Ion Storm - part of Target exclusive boxset
Acid Storm - part of Target exclusive boxset

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Quantum Surge » Wed Sep 25, 2019 9:08 pm

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Ultra Markus » Wed Sep 25, 2019 9:21 pm

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Toyhax has labels and the needed tail fin for 6
With that tail fin the tetrajet looks sooooo much better
I would say the sets are worth it
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Aimless Misfire » Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:29 pm

Now all you need is a Skywarp!



No! That gray thing isn't Skywarp. Skywarp is BLACK. You can call the thing Hasbro released Smokestorm or some nonsense like that. But that's definitely not Skywarp.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Sentinel_Primal » Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:37 pm

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Aimless Misfire wrote:Now all you need is a Skywarp!



No! That gray thing isn't Skywarp. Skywarp is BLACK. You can call the thing Hasbro released Smokestorm or some nonsense like that. But that's definitely not Skywarp.

Uhhhhh... No? That actually is pretty good with Skywarp's color scheme
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:53 pm

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Aimless Misfire » Thu Sep 26, 2019 2:04 am

Sentinel_Primal wrote:
Aimless Misfire wrote:Now all you need is a Skywarp!



No! That gray thing isn't Skywarp. Skywarp is BLACK. You can call the thing Hasbro released Smokestorm or some nonsense like that. But that's definitely not Skywarp.

Uhhhhh... No? That actually is pretty good with Skywarp's color scheme



SKYWARP IS BLACK! END OF STORY! You & Hasbro are screwing with my childhood memories & my very first Transformer back in 84. Out of the 3 seekers I chose the BLACK one because he was BLACK. I didn't choose the dark gray one because there was no dark gray version.

SKYWARP IS BLACK, LAVENDER/VIOLET & SILVER.
SKYWARP IS NOT DARK GRAY, LIGHT GRAY & MAROON/CRANBERRY.

Don't argue! :BANG_HEAD: Everybody knows Skywarp is BLACK, SILVER & VIOLET. Just like everybody knows the sky is blue & the grass is green.

If you tell me Skywarp is gray I will tell you Optimus Prime is actually orange or yellow. And then I would be laughed right out of the room.

BLACK! ALWAYS HAS BEEN BLACK! And I never imagined I would be arguing about this. If Skywarp is gray then so is Darth Vader. Sheesh! For Christ's sake! What the hell is wrong with this fandom?
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Is Soundblaster gray too? Because Hasbro made him gray once. But the new Siege Soundblaster is BLACK. So which is it? I'm going with BLACK because BLACK looks a million times better.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby blackeyedprime » Thu Sep 26, 2019 3:05 am

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Skywarp will probably have a selects version with accurate coloring, even the classic seekers varied in colors/patterns between henkai/classic and not all of them were accurate from what I remember. Would be interesting to know what colour blind people see the brighter seekers as.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby SGMLordMirage » Thu Sep 26, 2019 4:47 am

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Love the photo of the Seekers. Slowly but surely I will complete this group. As someone stated about reprolabels providing the part for the tetrajet mode, I think it enhances the look.

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Powered Convoy » Thu Sep 26, 2019 6:09 am

Sabrblade wrote:Full credit disclosure, my contact is fellow user (and Seeker superfan) Powered Convoy.


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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Immortal Starscream » Thu Sep 26, 2019 6:29 am

Aimless Misfire wrote:
Sentinel_Primal wrote:
Aimless Misfire wrote:Now all you need is a Skywarp!



No! That gray thing isn't Skywarp. Skywarp is BLACK. You can call the thing Hasbro released Smokestorm or some nonsense like that. But that's definitely not Skywarp.

Uhhhhh... No? That actually is pretty good with Skywarp's color scheme



SKYWARP IS BLACK! END OF STORY! You & Hasbro are screwing with my childhood memories & my very first Transformer back in 84. Out of the 3 seekers I chose the BLACK one because he was BLACK. I didn't choose the dark gray one because there was no dark gray version.

SKYWARP IS BLACK, LAVENDER/VIOLET & SILVER.
SKYWARP IS NOT DARK GRAY, LIGHT GRAY & MAROON/CRANBERRY.

Don't argue! :BANG_HEAD: Everybody knows Skywarp is BLACK, SILVER & VIOLET. Just like everybody knows the sky is blue & the grass is green.

If you tell me Skywarp is gray I will tell you Optimus Prime is actually orange or yellow. And then I would be laughed right out of the room.

BLACK! ALWAYS HAS BEEN BLACK! And I never imagined I would be arguing about this. If Skywarp is gray then so is Darth Vader. Sheesh! For Christ's sake! What the hell is wrong with this fandom?
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Is Soundblaster gray too? Because Hasbro made him gray once. But the new Siege Soundblaster is BLACK. So which is it? I'm going with BLACK because BLACK looks a million times better.
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Easy now, just relax. He is saying that the siege Skywarp matches the original g1 CARTOON color scheme (except the purple - the purple on him is much darker then it was on the cartoon) Also, he is not as grey as pics make him out to be, he is much more of a matte metallic gunmetal. its quite striking in hand tbh.

That being said however, I do prefer the Jet black (pun intended) with silver as opposed to the cartoon colors. Who knows, we may see a g1 toy version repaint down the road at some point. Wouldn't surprise me at all.


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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby AFTRHR » Thu Sep 26, 2019 9:26 am

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Aimless Misfire wrote:SKYWARP IS BLACK! END OF STORY! You & Hasbro are screwing with my childhood memories & my very first Transformer back in 84. Out of the 3 seekers I chose the BLACK one because he was BLACK. I didn't choose the dark gray one because there was no dark gray version.

SKYWARP IS BLACK, LAVENDER/VIOLET & SILVER.
SKYWARP IS NOT DARK GRAY, LIGHT GRAY & MAROON/CRANBERRY.

Don't argue! :BANG_HEAD: Everybody knows Skywarp is BLACK, SILVER & VIOLET. Just like everybody knows the sky is blue & the grass is green.

If you tell me Skywarp is gray I will tell you Optimus Prime is actually orange or yellow. And then I would be laughed right out of the room.

BLACK! ALWAYS HAS BEEN BLACK! And I never imagined I would be arguing about this. If Skywarp is gray then so is Darth Vader. Sheesh! For Christ's sake! What the hell is wrong with this fandom?

Is Soundblaster gray too? Because Hasbro made him gray once. But the new Siege Soundblaster is BLACK. So which is it? I'm going with BLACK because BLACK looks a million times better.

This has got to be the most overblown nitpick I've seen all week.

I think he looks fine in hand really. Photos have a thing for making everything look a little off anyway.
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