Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby SiegeFan » Sat Nov 30, 2019 7:06 pm

Random thoughts on Siege...

Got into it via a cheap Soundwave. He might be my favourite just because Soundwave. I was desperately addicted not long after! I own or have pre-ordered almost the entire line... I buy them all now as I even think G2 Megatron looks great in hand!

The battle damage was what drew me in, but yeah, it's definitely an afterthought for some of the bots. I'm always happy to see it. It breaks up some seriously bright colours nicely IMO.

Siege is the perfect mix for me of G1 looks, at least one mode I can get behind, scale and price. For the same reasons I'm looking forward to Earthrise even more.

I find the tetrajets only work for me in certain colours (Thundercracker for example), but love bot mode.

The Datsuns... Ones I thought would look great in car mode (Bluestreak for instance) don't IMO, and some I've bought twice rather than continually change them. Though often they were on sale! There's always a mode I like though.

I'm so glad we're diving deeper into the Autobots, it's been a bit of a hike getting only particular characters just because of the moulds.

Blast effects. Love these, bought multiple Battlemasters for them but haven't actually organised my display proper yet... Haven't used the Battlemasters yet for the same reason.

If I hadn't known there would be a bigger focus on modular-enabling figures (Omega, Ironworks) I wouldn't have touched Micromasters; they're nasty.

Weaponizers I'll buy three times over for their different modes and as weapon packs.

Exclusives need to stop! It's especially infuriating as a UK buyer. I never know if I should pay import prices, have someone ship it to me, watch it become a standard release here etc. Hell, even watch Amazon struggle to supply their own exclusive!

Hasbro need to sort out their UK distribution, there's no rhyme or reason to it.

I love the line so much I'll be devastated once it's done. Though I'd imagine it's been such a hit we'll get something very similar. You have to wonder how they'll handle release schedules if the cartoon is a success though, like would they do a follow-on trilogy? I hope so.

I really need the Dinobots, Blaster and Combiners like Defensor, Bruticus, and Devastator at some point.

That'll do for now lol
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby aronjlove » Sat Nov 30, 2019 10:21 pm

I've had several opportunities to pickup Mirage but have been put off because of the translucent plastic. Am I being overly cautious or should I just go for it? I'm not worried about the cost, but I'd hate to grow fond of a figure to have it break during transformation.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Sat Nov 30, 2019 11:36 pm

aronjlove wrote:I've had several opportunities to pickup Mirage but have been put off because of the translucent plastic. Am I being overly cautious or should I just go for it? I'm not worried about the cost, but I'd hate to grow fond of a figure to have it break during transformation.

Oh man, I am waiting to pick up the all clear blue version so if there is an issue I am ****! But honestly, there hasnt been much discussion on breakage. And the community is very loud about it when it happens, so I personally wouldnt worry. When in doubt, its best you get the figure because when its gone from the shelves it will can be ridiculously expensive. Just ask everyone who thought the RID 2015 line was beneath them, now they are stuck paying double-triple for figures.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Sun Dec 01, 2019 2:46 am

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SiegeFan wrote:Random thoughts on Siege...

Got into it via a cheap Soundwave. He might be my favourite just because Soundwave. I was desperately addicted not long after! I own or have pre-ordered almost the entire line... I buy them all now as I even think G2 Megatron looks great in hand!

The battle damage was what drew me in, but yeah, it's definitely an afterthought for some of the bots. I'm always happy to see it. It breaks up some seriously bright colours nicely IMO.

Siege is the perfect mix for me of G1 looks, at least one mode I can get behind, scale and price. For the same reasons I'm looking forward to Earthrise even more.

I find the tetrajets only work for me in certain colours (Thundercracker for example), but love bot mode.

The Datsuns... Ones I thought would look great in car mode (Bluestreak for instance) don't IMO, and some I've bought twice rather than continually change them. Though often they were on sale! There's always a mode I like though.

I'm so glad we're diving deeper into the Autobots, it's been a bit of a hike getting only particular characters just because of the moulds.

Blast effects. Love these, bought multiple Battlemasters for them but haven't actually organised my display proper yet... Haven't used the Battlemasters yet for the same reason.

If I hadn't known there would be a bigger focus on modular-enabling figures (Omega, Ironworks) I wouldn't have touched Micromasters; they're nasty.

Weaponizers I'll buy three times over for their different modes and as weapon packs.

Exclusives need to stop! It's especially infuriating as a UK buyer. I never know if I should pay import prices, have someone ship it to me, watch it become a standard release here etc. Hell, even watch Amazon struggle to supply their own exclusive!

Hasbro need to sort out their UK distribution, there's no rhyme or reason to it.

I love the line so much I'll be devastated once it's done. Though I'd imagine it's been such a hit we'll get something very similar. You have to wonder how they'll handle release schedules if the cartoon is a success though, like would they do a follow-on trilogy? I hope so.

I really need the Dinobots, Blaster and Combiners like Defensor, Bruticus, and Devastator at some point.

That'll do for now lol

Sounds like Earthrise has got you covered my friend :) Don't hold out much hope for Combiners just yet as the Combiner Wars ones are still very serviceable but who knows what the third part of the War for Cybertron trilogy will bring?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby aronjlove » Sun Dec 01, 2019 9:27 am

william-james88 wrote:
aronjlove wrote:I've had several opportunities to pickup Mirage but have been put off because of the translucent plastic. Am I being overly cautious or should I just go for it? I'm not worried about the cost, but I'd hate to grow fond of a figure to have it break during transformation.

Oh man, I am waiting to pick up the all clear blue version so if there is an issue I am ****! But honestly, there hasnt been much discussion on breakage. And the community is very loud about it when it happens, so I personally wouldnt worry. When in doubt, its best you get the figure because when its gone from the shelves it will can be ridiculously expensive. Just ask everyone who thought the RID 2015 line was beneath them, now they are stuck paying double-triple for figures.


Ok, cool. I will pick him up my next chance then. And I definitely know hear ya about the pricing, tracking down my IDW favorites from the Titans Return line was expensive!
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby SiegeFan » Sun Dec 01, 2019 9:45 am

ZeroWolf wrote:Sounds like Earthrise has got you covered my friend :) Don't hold out much hope for Combiners just yet as the Combiner Wars ones are still very serviceable but who knows what the third part of the War for Cybertron trilogy will bring?


Gotta say I think Siege brought a lot of people back/in. Personally, I hadn't bought any Transformers in decades and I'm a fully-fledged geek :lol: ; even to me previous lines and releases were a confusing mess in terms of visibility and availability. For Joe/Joanna Mainstream? Forget it. That's why I'm hopeful Hasbro will push the line towards the combiners that have played a massive part with IDW and likely the upcoming show.

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if we get a follow-up trilogy as we're still due the show, big-ass and expensive Omega Supreme seems to have sold well enough to get Scorponok, and clearly there's a lot of money to be made in little extras and inter-connectivity. If I'm right, they'd be mad to kill a line that's already been highly successful at mainstream retail without even having a show yet.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Sun Dec 01, 2019 10:31 am

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aronjlove wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
aronjlove wrote:I've had several opportunities to pickup Mirage but have been put off because of the translucent plastic. Am I being overly cautious or should I just go for it? I'm not worried about the cost, but I'd hate to grow fond of a figure to have it break during transformation.

Oh man, I am waiting to pick up the all clear blue version so if there is an issue I am ****! But honestly, there hasnt been much discussion on breakage. And the community is very loud about it when it happens, so I personally wouldnt worry. When in doubt, its best you get the figure because when its gone from the shelves it will can be ridiculously expensive. Just ask everyone who thought the RID 2015 line was beneath them, now they are stuck paying double-triple for figures.


Ok, cool. I will pick him up my next chance then. And I definitely know hear ya about the pricing, tracking down my IDW favorites from the Titans Return line was expensive!

Only thing I've heard is the tabs that connect the legs to the torso in the vehicle mode, having him, I don't think it's too much of an issue, just be careful with him
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby aronjlove » Sun Dec 01, 2019 10:53 am

Hellscream9999 wrote:
aronjlove wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
aronjlove wrote:I've had several opportunities to pickup Mirage but have been put off because of the translucent plastic. Am I being overly cautious or should I just go for it? I'm not worried about the cost, but I'd hate to grow fond of a figure to have it break during transformation.

Oh man, I am waiting to pick up the all clear blue version so if there is an issue I am ****! But honestly, there hasnt been much discussion on breakage. And the community is very loud about it when it happens, so I personally wouldnt worry. When in doubt, its best you get the figure because when its gone from the shelves it will can be ridiculously expensive. Just ask everyone who thought the RID 2015 line was beneath them, now they are stuck paying double-triple for figures.


Ok, cool. I will pick him up my next chance then. And I definitely know hear ya about the pricing, tracking down my IDW favorites from the Titans Return line was expensive!

Only thing I've heard is the tabs that connect the legs to the torso in the vehicle mode, having him, I don't think it's too much of an issue, just be careful with him

Those tabs are the ones I have read complaints about. While I've been careful with my Apeface I know there were some reports of people breaking the shield peg because it is a translucent blue that's been painted. I'm probably being overly cautious and should just get him, such a sweet alt-mode.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Sun Dec 01, 2019 11:02 am

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aronjlove wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
aronjlove wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
aronjlove wrote:I've had several opportunities to pickup Mirage but have been put off because of the translucent plastic. Am I being overly cautious or should I just go for it? I'm not worried about the cost, but I'd hate to grow fond of a figure to have it break during transformation.

Oh man, I am waiting to pick up the all clear blue version so if there is an issue I am ****! But honestly, there hasnt been much discussion on breakage. And the community is very loud about it when it happens, so I personally wouldnt worry. When in doubt, its best you get the figure because when its gone from the shelves it will can be ridiculously expensive. Just ask everyone who thought the RID 2015 line was beneath them, now they are stuck paying double-triple for figures.


Ok, cool. I will pick him up my next chance then. And I definitely know hear ya about the pricing, tracking down my IDW favorites from the Titans Return line was expensive!

Only thing I've heard is the tabs that connect the legs to the torso in the vehicle mode, having him, I don't think it's too much of an issue, just be careful with him

Those tabs are the ones I have read complaints about. While I've been careful with my Apeface I know there were some reports of people breaking the shield peg because it is a translucent blue that's been painted. I'm probably being overly cautious and should just get him, such a sweet alt-mode.

Caution is always good with translucent plastic, have broken several recent movie car-bots cuz the car shell is all translucent plastic. mirages legs to require a lot of manhandling, just be gentle and take your time transforming it and it'll be fine
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Sun Dec 01, 2019 3:06 pm

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ZeroWolf wrote:Sounds like Earthrise has got you covered my friend :) Don't hold out much hope for Combiners just yet as the Combiner Wars ones are still very serviceable but who knows what the third part of the War for Cybertron trilogy will bring?


Gotta say I think Siege brought a lot of people back/in. Personally, I hadn't bought any Transformers in decades and I'm a fully-fledged geek :lol: ; even to me previous lines and releases were a confusing mess in terms of visibility and availability. For Joe/Joanna Mainstream? Forget it. That's why I'm hopeful Hasbro will push the line towards the combiners that have played a massive part with IDW and likely the upcoming show.

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if we get a follow-up trilogy as we're still due the show, big-ass and expensive Omega Supreme seems to have sold well enough to get Scorponok, and clearly there's a lot of money to be made in little extras and inter-connectivity. If I'm right, they'd be mad to kill a line that's already been highly successful at mainstream retail without even having a show yet.

We were getting Scorpy anyway :D We've already seen his head unit (which transforms into a robot mode itself, like cerebros in Fort Max) We even know that the Scorpy head is actually modelled on his Visor design from the Rebirth cartoon and other parts of the franchise.

So far the new continuity for IDW have only used Devesator (in Transformers Galaxies) and he's looking exactly like his titan class toy, so when you say Combiners IDW used, do you mean in the old continuity? There's no word on a cast list yet for the new cartoon, but I'd be suprised to see Combiners in it, people might think it's related to the horrible macinema tf cartoons :lol:
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Sentinel_Primal » Sun Dec 01, 2019 5:25 pm

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ZeroWolf wrote:
SiegeFan wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:Sounds like Earthrise has got you covered my friend :) Don't hold out much hope for Combiners just yet as the Combiner Wars ones are still very serviceable but who knows what the third part of the War for Cybertron trilogy will bring?


Gotta say I think Siege brought a lot of people back/in. Personally, I hadn't bought any Transformers in decades and I'm a fully-fledged geek :lol: ; even to me previous lines and releases were a confusing mess in terms of visibility and availability. For Joe/Joanna Mainstream? Forget it. That's why I'm hopeful Hasbro will push the line towards the combiners that have played a massive part with IDW and likely the upcoming show.

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if we get a follow-up trilogy as we're still due the show, big-ass and expensive Omega Supreme seems to have sold well enough to get Scorponok, and clearly there's a lot of money to be made in little extras and inter-connectivity. If I'm right, they'd be mad to kill a line that's already been highly successful at mainstream retail without even having a show yet.

We were getting Scorpy anyway :D We've already seen his head unit (which transforms into a robot mode itself, like cerebros in Fort Max) We even know that the Scorpy head is actually modelled on his Visor design from the Rebirth cartoon and other parts of the franchise.

So far the new continuity for IDW have only used Devesator (in Transformers Galaxies) and he's looking exactly like his titan class toy, so when you say Combiners IDW used, do you mean in the old continuity? There's no word on a cast list yet for the new cartoon, but I'd be suprised to see Combiners in it, people might think it's related to the horrible macinema tf cartoons :lol:

Hopefully because Roosterteeth is involved it'll be better than Machinima's :lol: I do hope we hear more about it soon though. I keep forgetting it exists until I see a reminder
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Red Ramen » Sun Dec 01, 2019 6:55 pm

Well frick, siege skywarp is outta stock on amazon. Is there any chance that he’s gonna he restocked
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Sun Dec 01, 2019 8:54 pm

Red Ramen wrote:Well frick, siege skywarp is outta stock on amazon. Is there any chance that he’s gonna he restocked

Not much chance, its an exclusive figure so all the stock already went to them.
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Postby blackeyedprime » Mon Dec 02, 2019 4:50 am

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Not much chance, its an exclusive figure so all the stock already went to them.


Hopefully they sent the stock overseas to Amazon Uk seeing as they weren't able to locate any stock whilst .com had them in stock...one can hope :P
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby SiegeFan » Mon Dec 02, 2019 7:07 am

ZeroWolf wrote:
SiegeFan wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:Sounds like Earthrise has got you covered my friend :) Don't hold out much hope for Combiners just yet as the Combiner Wars ones are still very serviceable but who knows what the third part of the War for Cybertron trilogy will bring?


Gotta say I think Siege brought a lot of people back/in. Personally, I hadn't bought any Transformers in decades and I'm a fully-fledged geek :lol: ; even to me previous lines and releases were a confusing mess in terms of visibility and availability. For Joe/Joanna Mainstream? Forget it. That's why I'm hopeful Hasbro will push the line towards the combiners that have played a massive part with IDW and likely the upcoming show.

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if we get a follow-up trilogy as we're still due the show, big-ass and expensive Omega Supreme seems to have sold well enough to get Scorponok, and clearly there's a lot of money to be made in little extras and inter-connectivity. If I'm right, they'd be mad to kill a line that's already been highly successful at mainstream retail without even having a show yet.

We were getting Scorpy anyway :D We've already seen his head unit (which transforms into a robot mode itself, like cerebros in Fort Max) We even know that the Scorpy head is actually modelled on his Visor design from the Rebirth cartoon and other parts of the franchise.

So far the new continuity for IDW have only used Devesator (in Transformers Galaxies) and he's looking exactly like his titan class toy, so when you say Combiners IDW used, do you mean in the old continuity? There's no word on a cast list yet for the new cartoon, but I'd be suprised to see Combiners in it, people might think it's related to the horrible macinema tf cartoons :lol:


Yeah, I knew about Scorponok but I'd imagine they wanted to know how well Omega was received before they committed to another Titan class figure.

Yup, old continuity. Haven't started the new stuff, though I'm dying to.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby SiegeFan » Mon Dec 02, 2019 7:10 am

Sentinel_Primal wrote:Hopefully because Roosterteeth is involved it'll be better than Machinima's :lol: I do hope we hear more about it soon though. I keep forgetting it exists until I see a reminder


It is a little incredulous that so little is known about it considering


How far along the toyline is

The internet

And just generally how promotion for these things works!


I can't help wondering if there's been a bit of a delay somehow.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby aronjlove » Mon Dec 02, 2019 11:45 am

Red Ramen wrote:Well frick, siege skywarp is outta stock on amazon. Is there any chance that he’s gonna he restocked

Skywarp and the Phantomstrike pack is out of stock but its companion, the Alphastrike pack, is currently on Cyber Monday sale for $31.99!
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B07P2JB241
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby SiegeFan » Mon Dec 02, 2019 3:35 pm

aronjlove wrote:
Red Ramen wrote:Well frick, siege skywarp is outta stock on amazon. Is there any chance that he’s gonna he restocked

Skywarp and the Phantomstrike pack is out of stock but its companion, the Alphastrike pack, is currently on Cyber Monday sale for $31.99!
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B07P2JB241


Thanks for this, just ordered two of them!
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Postby notirishman » Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:18 pm

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aronjlove wrote:
Red Ramen wrote:Well frick, siege skywarp is outta stock on amazon. Is there any chance that he’s gonna he restocked

Skywarp and the Phantomstrike pack is out of stock but its companion, the Alphastrike pack, is currently on Cyber Monday sale for $31.99!
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B07P2JB241


Thanks for this, just ordered two of them!

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby SiegeFan » Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:36 pm

notirishman wrote:
SiegeFan wrote:
aronjlove wrote:
Red Ramen wrote:Well frick, siege skywarp is outta stock on amazon. Is there any chance that he’s gonna he restocked

Skywarp and the Phantomstrike pack is out of stock but its companion, the Alphastrike pack, is currently on Cyber Monday sale for $31.99!
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B07P2JB241


Thanks for this, just ordered two of them!

Why two?


I'll display both sets as bots and alt modes. I'll own the entire line soon enough so continually changing bots...
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Sentinel_Primal » Mon Dec 02, 2019 8:15 pm

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Overall, I feel like Siege has been an amazing toyline. As much as I hated it at first because of the overly G1 designs, it's won me over and has me more excited to see what Earthrise is going to offer. Though, I will say that it was really only after they got the big hitters out of the way that I completely fell in love. The articulation, QC, and even detail has been exceptional, but the most fun was seeing them finally dive into the less well known characters like the Rainmakers. Plus, Hasbro revisiting characters that haven't had toys since the 80s like Crosshairs and Apeface. Generally, Siege has been a great toyline, and I'm looking forward to seeing how Earthrise compares
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Fireball74 » Mon Dec 02, 2019 8:52 pm

Red Ramen wrote:Well frick, siege skywarp is outta stock on amazon. Is there any chance that he’s gonna he restocked

ARGHH!! He was on my Christmas list I just gave my wife this evening. :BANG_HEAD:
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby adamage1 » Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:20 pm

Sentinel_Primal wrote:Overall, I feel like Siege has been an amazing toyline. As much as I hated it at first because of the overly G1 designs, it's won me over and has me more excited to see what Earthrise is going to offer. Though, I will say that it was really only after they got the big hitters out of the way that I completely fell in love. The articulation, QC, and even detail has been exceptional, but the most fun was seeing them finally dive into the less well known characters like the Rainmakers. Plus, Hasbro revisiting characters that haven't had toys since the 80s like Crosshairs and Apeface. Generally, Siege has been a great toyline, and I'm looking forward to seeing how Earthrise compares

I honestly don’t understand the “ugh, G1 design” sentiment I keep seeing. Siege is the first time in over 30 years that we finally have proper mainline figures for a large number of characters, including Optimus, Megatron, Ratchet, Ironhide, Soundwave, Springer, Omega Supreme, etc. I honestly can’t believe it has taken this long for these characters to receive proper figures. The plastic quality is much better, joint tolerances are improved, articulation is greatly improved, universal joints instead of ball joints for most limbs, etc. There is probably an argument regarding the Classics line, but most of those figures were not proper G1 representatives, and none of them come close to the quality and accuracy of the Siege figures. The Prime Wars trilogy was already a step up from previous lines, and Siege took that improvement much farther. I could not be happier that Hasbro took this direction.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:30 pm

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adamage1 wrote:I honestly don’t understand the “ugh, G1 design” sentiment I keep seeing.


The only thing you need to understand is this:

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