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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Nemesis Destron » Sat Mar 28, 2020 11:18 am

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I'm hoping that if they did Nemesis Prime for this mold that they do right and do the same with Earthrise OP.... :PRAY: :VEHI:
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Postby william-james88 » Sat Mar 28, 2020 11:26 am

Nemesis Destron wrote:I'm hoping that if they did Nemesis Prime for this mold that they do right and do the same with Earthrise OP.... :PRAY: :VEHI:

Fun fact, every optimus in the generations line so far got some type of black redeco, usually as an exclusive though.
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Postby Glarryg » Sat Mar 28, 2020 12:03 pm

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-Kanrabat- wrote:Seige being over, I guess we can kiss some tail-end toys goodbye like the Rumble/Ratbat cassettes...


Breaks me ‘art- I never Even saw Rung on the pegs either :-(


I saw precisely one Rung, but no Rumble/Bat set, and those were the only ones from the last wave that I wanted. C'est la vie; I'm still hesitating on biting the bullet and paying inflated secondary-market prices for Titans Return Misfire and Twin Twist.

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Postby M. Spector » Sat Mar 28, 2020 1:36 pm

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Glarryg wrote:
Stargrave wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:Seige being over, I guess we can kiss some tail-end toys goodbye like the Rumble/Ratbat cassettes...


Breaks me ‘art- I never Even saw Rung on the pegs either :-(


I saw precisely one Rung, but no Rumble/Bat set, and those were the only ones from the last wave that I wanted. C'est la vie; I'm still hesitating on biting the bullet and paying inflated secondary-market prices for Titans Return Misfire and Twin Twist.

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I scooped up Rung the minute I saw him simply because I wasn't sure how long he'd last in the wild and so far it seems I didn't need to be so jumpy. And oof, you picked two of the finer TR Deluxe's my friend ;) Which may be why they are still inflated. I wont discourage anyone from getting tho, if youre a Wreckers fan its pretty the definitive Twintwist. And if you like eye scorching 80's colors you cant go wrong with Misfire (Or any of the three updated Targetmasters really)
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Sat Mar 28, 2020 2:10 pm

FYI, the siege Battlemasters Wave 4 can still be ordered rather easily.

https://www.entertainmentearth.com/prod ... /hse3431dd

The premium for having to buy pteraxadon is no different than the premium people have been paying for Rung alone.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Sat Mar 28, 2020 2:50 pm

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william-james88 wrote:
Nemesis Destron wrote:I'm hoping that if they did Nemesis Prime for this mold that they do right and do the same with Earthrise OP.... :PRAY: :VEHI:

Fun fact, every optimus in the generations line so far got some type of black redeco, usually as an exclusive though.
All except for the Deluxe FOC Optimus and the two Optimus molds in the Cyber Series.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby -Kanrabat- » Sat Mar 28, 2020 3:26 pm

Motto: "Love it? GET IT!
It's that simple."
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william-james88 wrote:FYI, the siege Battlemasters Wave 4 can still be ordered rather easily.

https://www.entertainmentearth.com/prod ... /hse3431dd

The premium for having to buy pteraxadon is no different than the premium people have been paying for Rung alone.


For Americans only.
Because even if they can ship to Canada, the exchange rate is atrocious right now and the overall cost will be around a freaking leader class figure if you factor in shipping (and maybe custom fees because why not).
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Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Sat Mar 28, 2020 4:40 pm

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Stargrave wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:Seige being over, I guess we can kiss some tail-end toys goodbye like the Rumble/Ratbat cassettes...


Breaks me ‘art- I never Even saw Rung on the pegs either :-(


IIRC Rung is set for reissue in Wave 2 of ER.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Sat Mar 28, 2020 8:23 pm

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Saw a couple of Rungs in store once, passed on them because I don't care about Rung.

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Sat Mar 28, 2020 9:36 pm

Hey all, regarding the new Black Prime, am I the only one not really feeling it? I mean, it's a nice and fun deco on one of the best Optimus Prime molds we have ever gotten and yet it just feel so vanilla. Which is what I usually feel for the Nemesis redecos of MP Primes as well. Scourge was introduced, at least to me seeing him on the shelves, as his own thing. Sure, it was a redeco of Prime, but not of the Prime on the shelves. He felt like his own guy. Hence why I tend to like the redecos that bring back that feeling. The TR toy obviously did since it was the best homage to the original Scourge we ever got, and I feel we got that with the POTP Leader toy thanks to all the effort made by Hasbro to make him stand out from the sea of black Primes. And while there was only retooling on the face, I felt the redeco to the Beast Hunters voyager also felt like a nice Nemesis. I think he really owned that mold even more than the original release did.

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Sat Mar 28, 2020 9:42 pm

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I kinda feel like this new Nemesis Prime, being so bare bones, is like what Nemesis would be if he had originally been introduced in the 1980s, just a basic copy of Optimus's look but in black with no bells and whistles or uniqueness of mold.

As in, like, this is Nemesis Prime in his early days before he makes a name for himself or gets any upgrades, his sword merely being the first step on his journey to being more than just "evil Optimus in black and teal". In this form, he is still so ordinary because he is just beginning his life of villainy.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Gauntlet101010 » Sat Mar 28, 2020 9:46 pm

If we're shifting talk to Nemesis Primes, I think the final word for him - for me - are the old Universe Mammoth version and the Legends one with TFC's backpack to give him an edge.

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Sat Mar 28, 2020 9:52 pm

Motto: "It's not done right if it's not done well."
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Gauntlet101010 wrote:If we're shifting talk to Nemesis Primes, I think the final word for him - for me - are the old Universe Mammoth version and the Legends one with TFC's backpack to give him an edge.

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That one was a United toy, not Legends, and was technically not a Nemesis Prime toy since it was sold as "Black Optimus Prime", being the Autobot leader going undercover as a Con.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Sat Mar 28, 2020 9:53 pm

Gauntlet101010 wrote:If we're shifting talk to Nemesis Primes, I think the final word for him - for me - are the old Universe Mammoth version and the Legends one with TFC's backpack to give him an edge.


Oh yeah, the Mammoth version, now that's a Nemesis that's fully formed (going by Sabr's fun Nemesis timeline of murder). He has blood on his tusks!
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Gauntlet101010 » Sat Mar 28, 2020 9:56 pm

All these toylines start to blend together after so long.

Well, at least I got the picture right. That's the one I like with the accessory I like. There'll have to be another that does the job really nicely to displace him. Although I'm tempted to buy his US counterpart since I accidentally bought the 3rd party trailer that goes with him.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Gauntlet101010 » Sat Mar 28, 2020 9:59 pm

william-james88 wrote:
Gauntlet101010 wrote:If we're shifting talk to Nemesis Primes, I think the final word for him - for me - are the old Universe Mammoth version and the Legends one with TFC's backpack to give him an edge.


Oh yeah, the Mammoth version, now that's a Nemesis that's fully formed (going by Sabr's fun Nemesis timeline of murder). He has blood on his tusks!

That one remains a favourite since he's so different. While I love the black and teal colours we have going on most of these the Mammoth version is just very different with the primary colour being beige. With the blood coasted tusks to his Dead Matrix that guy brings a lot to the table. And he remains a very articulated figure even after all this time.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Sat Mar 28, 2020 10:10 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:
Gauntlet101010 wrote:If we're shifting talk to Nemesis Primes, I think the final word for him - for me - are the old Universe Mammoth version and the Legends one with TFC's backpack to give him an edge.

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That one was a United toy, not Legends, and was technically not a Nemesis Prime toy since it was sold as "Black Optimus Prime", being the Autobot leader going undercover as a Con.


Pedantics are not needed:

william-james88 wrote:How about you guys, which black redeco of Prime (doesn't have to be Nemesis Prime per se) do you like best so far?


I own only two, the original CR Black Convoy (gotta have the :RENEGADE: :-D ) and RiD 2001 Spychanger Scourge, but would like to own more. Not just any, the ones that "stick out" if you catch my drift, something the Siege one doesn't do. Like these:

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Sat Mar 28, 2020 10:15 pm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote: Not just any, the ones that "stick out" if you catch my drift, something the Siege one doesn't do.


Yeah I catch your drift, I actually think it's something we're all agreeing on at the moment.
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Postby aronjlove » Sat Mar 28, 2020 11:00 pm

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I would love to have that Siege Nemesis Prime, and I'll probably pay a ridiculous price for him on eBay. But for now, I will have to settle for my KO black SS-38 Optimus Prime as a stand-in.
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Postby Sabrblade » Sat Mar 28, 2020 11:52 pm

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I do give the Siege Nemesis credit in that it's the first and so far only version of that mold to finally have a clean deco without any battle damage or cel shading paint.
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Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Sun Mar 29, 2020 12:12 am

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby -Kanrabat- » Sun Mar 29, 2020 1:52 am

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I did once had some "Nemesis Primes" redeco. I sold all of them because they were too similar to the regular Optimuses that I already had and found them redundant.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Sentinel_Primal » Sun Mar 29, 2020 2:03 am

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Oddly enough, SDCC Nemesis Prime is my favorite Nemesis Prime, but not my favorite black repaint. I enjoy the Big Convoy repaint, but I don't consider it Nemesis Prime, and I also enjoy the Go! repaint, but I consider that a CHUG Nova because of the wing pack (or I would if I had one :lol: ). SDCC Nemesis Prime just seems to make good use of the Classics Prime mold and I think the black slims the kibble down a bit. Not too much granted because of the mess on the arms, but it still looks pretty nice
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Deadput » Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:01 am

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For me since I can just ignore the alt mode's not exactly linking up as well as the battle damage decos being inconsistent with my cleaner figures I really like having my Siege Prime and Magnus go up against POTP Nemesis Prime who is pretty much my Siege Nemesis at least until my actual Siege NP comes.

The height differences between Siege Optimus Prime and Nemesis Prime give for an imposing image, like this isn't just a guy who copies Optimus look but he does it in way where he's bigger and badder then him, for me he's going to be Nemesis Prime on steroids.
Sabrblade wrote:As in, like, this is Nemesis Prime in his early days before he makes a name for himself or gets any upgrades, his sword merely being the first step on his journey to being more than just "evil Optimus in black and teal". In this form, he is still so ordinary because he is just beginning his life of villainy.
Reading this is funny for me comparing it to my head canon universe version of Nemesis.

Nemesis Prime, before the war he had a long career upon the Prime Council although back then he was Nominus Prime who was a pioneer for many advancements made to Cybertronian society, his achievements gave way for being labeled with the designation "The Grand Scourge" which was a title only given to the highest among the Scourge Barons which was already a title hard to come by and only given to those of royalty with remarkable accomplishments, his achievements were so great that when Optimus was knighted among the Primes his upgrades were designed based upon the base frame of Nominus.

Despite all the good he did Nominus was only in it for his own pride which pushed him to overcome "impossible tasks" and once he built up Cybertron to the highest high's he thought possible...he made it his next goal to bring it all down, after a mutiny which brought upon his renaming he alone covertly set up the start of a chain of events that would partially lead to Cybertron's downfall although his plan was complete annihilation of his species his plans were thwarted when the Decepticon movement gained traction, Nemesis did not join the Decepticons initially but instead operated as a rogue berserker who slew anyone he came upon becoming infamous as a powerful warrior who could not be taken down, after a fated encounter with Optimus which left him near death he formulated an obsession to the bright beacon of the Autobots, his new goal was to break Optimus by becoming everything he was but twisting it to his own vision before tearing down everything that Optimus valued, he sought out Megatron forcefully by literally slaughtering his way into Decepticon Command and threatening the leader for a place among his ranks, so Nemesis Prime was allowed to join the Decepticons but was placed in the low ranks, this was something Nemesis relished as he was allowed to work his way up the ranks once again in the new Cybertronian society.



TLDR: Nemesis was once named Nominus and was the basis for Optimus Prime's design and not the other way around, he goes crazy and wants to become the antithesis of Optimus Prime and his ideals.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:22 am

Motto: "My past no longer binds my future..."
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I quite like the way IDW did it with Nova Prime becoming that universes Nemesis Prime when he fell into the Dead Universe... Till they dropped the moniker faster then a piece of rubbish. In fact Nova lost a lot of standing as a villain after that, playing second fiddle to more important characters like Galvaltron. I'd personally though, stick Nemesis Prime in with the forces of Unicron, like Universe Nemesis Prime. The thought of Unicron having a dark mirror image of one of Primus's iconic defenders,os quite appealing.
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Transformers Podcast: Twincast / Podcast #251 - Bob Lobclaw's Rumor Mill
Twincast / Podcast #251:
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