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[Doctor McGrath]

I think this is pretty cool looking. I may end up buying two Cog’w so I can break one down into armor bits and keep the other in robot mode. I’m very excited to put Cog with the titans, Scamper, and IF’s Slammer and Sixgun.

[Kyleor]

So who was the first Transformer (comic or toy) to be able to tear their body apart in order to be worn as armor/used as weapons by other Transformers?

[william-james88]

While i do not mind an Omega Supreme trning into the arc, I would want that toy to be styled in the animated fashion to truly deliver on what fans want from that idea.

[ZeldaTheSwordsman]

Skritz, the Voyager Megs and Starscream, and Leader Shockwave talk comes from listings found for them. No photos yet, but there are listings.

I don't think Leaders are getting downsized anymore than they already have been. Ultra Magnus might not be super tall, but he still has a lot of mass thanks to the trailer armor, the big black cannons, and his big-aft laser rifle.

Thrilling 30 Jetfire is great and should not be revisited anytime soon. neither should Springer or Sandstorm or even Roadbuster. Whirl maybe, but I would still be satisfied with the T30 one.

As a cartoon fan, I say that T30 Jetfire, Springer, AND Sandstorm all need revisiting from a more G1 standpoint. T30 Jetfire is to a large degree, the cartoon Skyfire robot mode wearing the Macross Valkyrie jet mode on his back. We need one that has both the cartoon robot mode and the cartoon jet mode. T30 Springer and Sandstorm are a bit off from the G1 designs in both robot and altmode. Especially Sandstorm on the altmode front.

Have we had a word on Sunstreaker? I want the pair or none at all

Keep calm. Bear in mind that a proper G1-mimicking Sunstreaker is NOT going to be a retool of Sideswipe. They have severely different transformation schemes in their original designs - Sunstreaker has his arms and head in his car mode's aft, his windshield and windows become his chest (windshield pointing down), and his front end telescopes out to become his feet. Sideswipe's head is under his hood, which becomes his chest, his arms are at his sides and have his door windows attached to them, his windshield ends up on his back, and his car aft telescopes out to become his legs.

Don't worry about it it's okay if you want to speculate about OS, we could get more hints at new York comic con next week via hidden messages on posters. That is where the first idea came from about linking os to the micromasters via Countdown. Though I'm still secretly counting on os being the Ark

Actually an Animated-ish OS wouldn't be bad either. One of the biggest misses of that excellent toyline indeed.

Yes, instead of Omega Supreme we got a stupid as hell jumbo-size Bumblebee. Because jumbo-size toys of the LITTLE yellow guy always sell well, right? OH WAIT.
However, I don't see that quite working with a line going for G1 looks. Animated OS has a distinctly different robot mode based around his turning into a single ship. And a Siege OS, even if it did turn into a single ship, would not have Animated's distinct art style.

[Sarahthecutevixen]

So who was the first Transformer (comic or toy) to be able to tear their body apart in order to be worn as armor/used as weapons by other Transformers?

i think RiD Ultra Magnus or if you don't count combination, Armada Tidal Wave

[Sigma Magnus]

So who was the first Transformer (comic or toy) to be able to tear their body apart in order to be worn as armor/used as weapons by other Transformers?

For armor, Godbomber? I think?

For weapons, I think that would be Sixgun wouldn't it?

[Flashwave]

So who was the first Transformer (comic or toy) to be able to tear their body apart in order to be worn as armor/used as weapons by other Transformers?

i think RiD Ultra Magnus or if you don't count combination, Armada Tidal Wave

My guess is technically SixGun, who was literally 6 guns from Metroplex. but thats arguable as to whether you count SixGun as a seperate entity or as a drone for Metroplex, and only Mtroplexused him I think

[william-james88]

T30 Jetfire is to a large degree, the cartoon Skyfire robot mode wearing the Macross Valkyrie jet mode on his back.

I felt that was so inspired. Combining the toon and the toy in one delicious package, making this the most affordable macross toy ever. And he was just so cool. I loved the optional faces.

[Munkky]

The first thing I thought when I saw the Sideswipe and Cog combination is "G2 themed repaint set when?"

[X3ROhour]

... it could be that leader Shockwave would be a voyager Shockwave with armour pieces for an ultimate form.

OR
he stars as a Voyager/Deluxe Senator Shockwave that fits into or becomes evil Shocky!

gosh dang, that would be so cool!

So, dont hold your breath.

[X3ROhour]

As you can see, Shockwave is in the leader class though with both him and Magnus being in the Prime Wars contest for a leader class toy and with us knowing that all those toys were going to have an evolution gimmick (with Seige Magnus still sporting that), it could be that leader Shockwave would be a voyager Shockwave with armour pieces for an ultimate form.

decisions, decisions, decisions...

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so
what if...
somewhere
deep, dark & beyond the realms of Man
there are designs,
NAY,
prototypes
or dare i say
FULLY REALIZED FIGURES
of each contestant!
just in case.

if you catch my meaning.

hhmmmm...

[Autobot N]

fe53d7a5de6e957a9cb912c5ec8950d2.jpg

so
what if...
somewhere
deep, dark & beyond the realms of Man
there are designs,
NAY,
prototypes
or dare i say
FULLY REALIZED FIGURES
of each contestant!
just in case.

if you catch my meaning.

hhmmmm...

There are definitely designs for the remaining vote members, since Primal was revealed only a year after he won the ballot (and they definitely didn't rig the vote in favor of Primal), and the design process for a Transformer usually takes about 2 years. If I remember correctly, Warden said that he really liked the design that they made for Hound, and that Arcee would have been called Arcana Magnus or something like that.

I've theorized for a while that the Leaders of Shockwave and Magnus are remnants of the POTP designs. It doesn't really make sense to include Magnus and Shockwave in a vote for a new Leader figure, and then release completely different Leader versions of both of them in the wave right after the POTP would have come out.

[william-james88]

fe53d7a5de6e957a9cb912c5ec8950d2.jpg

so
what if...
somewhere
deep, dark & beyond the realms of Man
there are designs,
NAY,
prototypes
or dare i say
FULLY REALIZED FIGURES
of each contestant!
just in case.

if you catch my meaning.

hhmmmm...

There are definitely designs for the remaining vote members, since Primal was revealed only a year after he won the ballot

Even less than that, it was half a year between winning and being revealed.

[Autobot N]

Even less than that, it was half a year between winning and being revealed.

Oh yeah, I forgot they showed a prototype at NYCC.

[Wolfman Jake]

I think this is pretty cool looking. I may end up buying two Cog’w so I can break one down into armor bits and keep the other in robot mode.

I'm considering this too. It would help out some figures like Sideswipe who don't otherwise have a handheld gun if you do the G1 thing (and honestly, why wouldn't you?) and mount the rocket launder over his left shoulder.

[ZeroWolf]

To be fair I wouldn't mount the gun as a rocket launcher but I'm just awkward

[ZeldaTheSwordsman]

So who was the first Transformer (comic or toy) to be able to tear their body apart in order to be worn as armor/used as weapons by other Transformers?

i think RiD Ultra Magnus or if you don't count combination, Armada Tidal Wave

My guess is technically SixGun, who was literally 6 guns from Metroplex. but thats arguable as to whether you count SixGun as a seperate entity or as a drone for Metroplex, and only Mtroplexused him I think

Yes. Sixgun was the first. That's what he was designed as even if the fiction never realy made use of it. But he was designed as a number of weapons that could be wielded by and attached to Metroplex in various ways, and also lent to other figures - and in particular the combiners designed to interact with Metroplex.

[Autobot N]

More Siege listings:
Caliburst (
Smashdown (maybe this is the hammer BM that Warden hinted at...)
Pteraxadon (Seems like an axe to me)
Starscream
Soundwave!
Springer
Thundercracker

Also, further confirmation of Shockwave, Megatron, Flywheels, and Sixgun. Credit to Jtprime17 on TFW for finding the listings

[Sentinel_Primal]

More Siege listings:
Caliburst
Smashdown
Pteraxadon
Starscream
Soundwave!
Springer
Thundercracker

Also, further confirmation of Shockwave, Megatron, Flywheels, and Sixgun. Credit to Jtprime17 on TFW for finding the listings

Woah, a new Springer and Impactor? Maybe this really is going to be a line that brings the Wreckers to store shelves

[Skritz]

Woah, a new Springer and Impactor? Maybe this really is going to be a line that brings the Wreckers to store shelves

T30 and Titans Return called, what with Springer/Sandstorm and Twin Twist/Top Spin/Broadside/Kup.

[Autobot N]

Woah, a new Springer and Impactor? Maybe this really is going to be a line that brings the Wreckers to store shelves

T30 and Titans Return called, what with Springer/Sandstorm and Twin Twist/Top Spin/Broadside/Kup.

Whirl and Roadbuster too.

[starrhero]

More Siege listings:
Caliburst
Smashdown
Pteraxadon
Starscream
Soundwave!
Springer
Thundercracker

Also, further confirmation of Shockwave, Megatron, Flywheels, and Sixgun. Credit to Jtprime17 on TFW for finding the listings

Springer?! Soundwave?! Thundercracker?!

[Autobot N]

Woah, a new Springer and Impactor? Maybe this really is going to be a line that brings the Wreckers to store shelves

T30 and Titans Return called, what with Springer/Sandstorm and Twin Twist/Top Spin/Broadside/Kup.

Whirl and Roadbuster too.

[Autobot N]

Aimless as well

[Nemesis Primal]

Woah, a new Springer and Impactor? Maybe this really is going to be a line that brings the Wreckers to store shelves

T30 and Titans Return called, what with Springer/Sandstorm and Twin Twist/Top Spin/Broadside/Kup.

Whirl and Roadbuster too.

And Perceptor. And apparently Scoop was a Wrecker at some point too, so yeah.

Smashdown and Pteraxadon are basically the only things that appeal to me in that new leak, other than further confirmation of Flywheels and Sixgun. None of the rest of this is remotely surprising.